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Pedroia Falling Out of Favor?

A source out of Boston had a little nugget about Red Sox second base/shortstop prospect Dustin Pedroia.  Pedroia, by the way, is the 11th best prospect in baseball according to Baseball Prospectus.

My source tells me that Pedroia is "falling out of favor with the Sox brass."  Apparently the Red Sox think he's gotten way too big and is too slow to play shortstop.

Pedroia has come back from a shoulder strain to play shortstop for Boston's Triple A affiliate.  He was moved to second base last year, but the Hanley Ramirez trade resulted in a switch back to short.  The 22 year-old is hitting .269/.367/.385 for the Pawtucket Red Sox in 52 ABs. 

You have to be worried about Pedroia's lack of power at the Triple A level , dating back to last year.  Nonetheless, BP projects Pedroia to hit .290/.362/.450 in the Majors this year.  My guess is that Pedroia is showcased in the big leagues within a month's time.  He could serve as a major young trading chip for Boston this summer.   

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Pedroia reportedly came into spring training fat and out of shape...and promptly hurt himself in his first at bat. Meanwhile 2005 draftee Jed Lowrie went 6/15 with 4 walks, a homer, and 3 doubles for a .400/.526/.733 line. Gammons reported that the Sox were especially impressed with Lowrie, and that they may like him more than Pedroia at this point.

Dustin isn't off to a bad start in AAA, depending on what you want out of your 2b. He has only gotten 52 ab's so far this season, so it's probably too soon to draw any real conclusions based on his numbers. He's 14/52 for a .269 AVG, with a 7/8 k/bb ratio for a .367 obp. Of the 14 hits, he has 3 doubles and 1 homer for a SLG of .385. If he can get his average consistantly in the high-.200's low-.300's, we'd basically be looking at Mark Loretta Lite. Good average, great plate discipline, doubles power, a dozen homers a year.

All that being said, Lowrie is still in single-A Wilmington, and isn't really doing anything well...his offensive stats are too bad so far to even bother posting here. Given that their other top Middle-infield prospect is still probably 2 years away, I don't think Pedroia goes anywhere...unless Boston decides to give Loretta an extension and finds a real SS somewhere else.

Idle speculation, of course, but what's the status of Bill Hall? He can play the whole infield and hit with pop. And he doesn't seem to fit into the Brewers' longterm plans. Probably not for this season, but I'd imagine he'd be on Theo's radar in the offseason.

If Pedroia really is falling out of favor then the Willis to Boston talk might amount to something at the trade deadline.

Hall started in CF tonight. Looks like he is going to do his best Boris Diaw impersonation. Who knows how many positions he could rack up if he stays hot.

If Pedroia really is falling out of favor then the Willis to Boston talk might amount to something at the trade deadline.

Hall started in CF tonight. Looks like he is going to do his best Boris Diaw impersonation. Who knows how many positions he could rack up if he stays hot.

If Boston throws Pedroia and God knows how many pitching prospects at the Marlins to grab an overrated Willis...really hope you're wrong.

Pedroia, Lester and one other lesser prospect would be an enticing package for both sides. Remember if Wells does not recover then the Red Sox really need another pitcher. No Wells, no Clemens plus Lester starting the season shaky and Pedroia not working out all points to a possible Willis deal. Both sides have to like the Beckett deal up to this point which would also seem to help.

Good points, except I'm not as pessimistic about Lester as I was. Apparently he's been doing the same thing Hansen has, but at AAA where there's less room for error. Soxprospects.com reports that Lester's been working on his pitches while on a strict (I think 80) pitch count. If true, this would explain the lack of control and sudden ineffectiveness compared to last season. Only Boston knows for sure, but if this really is the cause of Lester's struggles, I still think he's too valuable to trade. I also feel like Boston's going to heavily protect its remaining pitching prospects, unless all their talk of not sacrificing the future for the sake of the present was total BS.

desturbd1 I don't think if the Red Sox traded Lester and Pedroia and others for Willis is sacrificing the future because of Willis's age
Its not like the Red Sox would be trading Lester for a free agent to be pitcher(Barry Zito) or an old pitcher like Jason Schimdt Willis is young,it wouldn't be sacrificing the future.

Yeah, Willis is young, but that doesn't make him worth giving up 2-3 more top prospects. I liked the Beckett deal because at that point Boston still had a massively stacked farm...now it's slightly more depleted. If Lester/Pedroia were definately all it would take, I'd think about it...but I'm convinced Boston would need to throw in something else.

How about Pedroia for Kerry Wood come trading deadline time?

Not sure why the Cubs would be interested enough in a 2b/SS prospect to give up Wood...and I'm also not sure why Boston would want to fill its need for a fifth starter with one of the two most injury prone pitchers in baseball. Besides, if Wood is healthy enough to interest Boston, the Cubbies need him themselves.

Cubs aren't in the same situation as the Red Sox. Red Sox are contending, Cubs aren't....and the Red Sox traded for Josh Beckett who is just as injury prone. Wood is only on the hook for the rest of this year on a contract and would make an attractive addition to any playoff club. Pedroia could start at 2nd for the Cubs next season.

Interesting that you said you don't know why they would be interested enough in a ss/2b prospect to give up Wood....as if Wood is Johan Santana or something, then you call him one of the two most injury prone pitchers in baseball. I'm not trashing you, just don't know how you value Wood.

The move would make sense for both teams

Beckett is as injury prone as Wood? Are you serious? Maybe Beckett has spent a lot of time on the DL...but blister problems are a little less severe then repeated shoulder and back injuries.

As for how I value Wood...I don't have any idea how anyone can really rate him accurately right now. Beckett threw about 335 innings in 04 and 05...Wood threw a little over 200 and aside from a great K-rate, wasn't particularly effective. Further, if Pedroia could start at 2nd for the Cubs, he could probably contribute a great deal for the Sox this year and next. As for Wood factoring into a playoff run...if he comes back by the beginning of June and is perfectly fine, throwing well, and shows absolutely no sign of arm trouble leading up to the deadline, then MAYBE this makes sense. It's a long season and a lot of stuff can change...in 2 months if Wells still can't pitch and nobody in AAA can step up, or if another starter goes down, then something like this is sort of rational. But right now I don't think giving up a top prospect for Wood, given that the team isn't struggling and may well get a lot stronger in the coming months, is a bad idea. Until the Wells question is answered and both Alvarez and Lester are officially declared "not ready" to step into the fifth role, I don't like this move.

By the way, just found this out, Wood's got a full no-trade clause in his contract. So I guess this whole debate might be kind of pointless.

"As for Wood factoring into a playoff run...if he comes back by the beginning of June and is perfectly fine, throwing well, and shows absolutely no sign of arm trouble leading up to the deadline"

I meant that when I first posted. Obviously Wood has to be pitching well and be healthy. I even made it a point to say "by the trading deadline". By then, Wood will have pitched 2-2.5 full months. Plenty of time to get a good read on him. Besides, injury history isn't that big of an issue when you're getting a guy for two months.

"Further, if Pedroia could start at 2nd for the Cubs, he could probably contribute a great deal for the Sox this year and next."

I'm not sure what that assessment has to do with anything. Teams that have a chance at a World Series will give up a prospect to get a good starting pitcher. If Wood does become available, which I think he will, he will easily be the most sought after piece of trade bait.

And just because blister problems don't sound as bad or last as long as shoulder problems, they can be just as detrimental to a pitcher's career. I'm willing to bet Beckett hits the DL this year with blisters, he may even be struggling with them now already.

As for the no-trade clause, it would surprise the hell out of everyone in Chicago if Kerry Wood actually invoked that and not go to the playoffs.

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