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Michael Barrett On The Block?

Here's an interesting tidbit buried in a Giants notes column: the Cubs "reportedly are open to the idea of trading catcher Michael Barrett for pitching help."  I can't imagine they'll part with Barrett cheaply, but does that mean they are willing to go with Henry Blanco and, say, Geovany Soto behind the plate?

One thing is for sure: there isn't much available on the free-agent market.  I suppose that if Barrett brought a decent return, a Mike Piazza-Blanco offense-defense platoon might make some sense for the Cubs; beyond that, the options are a bunch of guys who will cost more than Barrett (last year of a $12M/3y deal) and produce less.

By Jeff Sackmann

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Cubs fan here...proud of it...sometimes...me and one of my friends has had this conversation for over a year now. I'm all for trading Barrett for pitching. I like the guy, who wouldn't after he punched AJ in his Ben Seaver looking face. but his defense is bad, he cant hit with men on (except those 2 GS). I don't have confidence in him. But he hit .300+ so............who knows...we probably wont trade him...

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Cubs fan here...proud of it...sometimes...me and one of my friends has had this conversation for over a year now. I'm all for trading Barrett for pitching. I like the guy, who wouldn't after he punched AJ in his Ben Seaver looking face. but his defense is bad, he cant hit with men on (except those 2 GS). I don't have confidence in him. But he hit .300+ so............who knows...we probably wont trade him...

Go Bears!!
Go Cubs!!

I would hate to seem him go as he is a solid offensive player and is one of the few cubs willing to take a walk or hit the other way - but if you can package him with Izturis & Eyre and get Westbrook or the like, I would do it.

Barrett for Westbrook straight up would be a rip off for the cubs! I can't believe you would do that! However, I'm not against moving him...if the return is a young pitcher...a la the likes of Ervin Santana

I don't see Barrett being the key for the Cubs to get Westbrook. They have a decent offensive catcher already -- Victor Martinez...heard of him?

Barret's in his walk year and if he has a good year, given the dearth of catchers who can hit, he'll get a whopping payday. The Cubs will have to overpay and overcommit in years to a hisk-risk position--or have him walk next year anyway. Why not shop him hard to see what his trade value is?

Jake Fox has been absolutely tearing up the AFL.

Blanco, 2/5. Who pays their back up catcher 2.5MM a year? I like Barrett, but I think he's gone.

I'd trade Barrett for Westbrook straight up any day of the week. But he's not going to the Indians. But what about Matt Cain? San Fran does have the need. He's probably one of Sabean's 'untouchables' but i'd have to think hard about Barrett and Wuertz for Cain and a minor leaguer.

yeah vic martinez and shopach i dont see barret being traded to the tribe. I dont think the cubs would be getting ripped off whatsoever if they traded barret for westbrook. They need pitching

I am sure Cain is untouchable though isn't Sabean the one that gave up Liriano & Nathan for Pierzynski?

touche.

I thought the plan was for the Indians to move Martinez to 1st base on a more consistent basis - though I forgot about Shopach.

cubs really good point, boof bonser i believe to. Wow talk about a ripjob, Minnesota got liriano though when he was basically a non prospect. He was a throw in in that trade if you can imagine that, Cain isnt a throw in on any deal.That guy can pitch, i think he may well be the best young pitcher in the NL. That Liriano, nathan, bonser for pierzynski deal seriously may turn out to be one of the most lopsided trades in recent memory. I mean it already has, but liriano and nathan are both gona be around a long time, and are both lights out already.

There's definite talk of Victor moving to 1st, but why move him if you're gonna replace him with someone very similar to him (ie good offense, bad defense)? I think Barrett's got a lot of talent, but I just don't see that being a probable trade.

I really hope they don't move Victor to 1st. If they move Victor, move him to another team for a great deal. That being said, I'm content with him behind the plate.

Although I would welcome Barrett in Cleveland. I can just see the storylines going into games against the White Sox...

I am not suggesting anything, but isn't it true that the Blue Jays are in need of ...
a catcher, a midle infielders, and a couple of young pitchers????

Who else would have to be involved with Barrett to get Vernon Wells?

Barrett isn't going to the tribe. They not only have V-Mart, but should he move to first they have Kelley Shoppach.

Should the Cubs trade Barrett, Jake Fox would absolutely not be the answer. Not only is he not tearing up the AFL (.250/.294/.375... are you serious "tearing it up" Dave?)

The bottom line is trading Barrett would be a big mistake. Barrett is one of the few above average hitters for the Cubs. In fact, according to VORP, Barrett is the 2nd best catcher in the NL, and 5th best in MLB. Sure he plays bad D, and could be in for a big raise pretty soon, but he's probably still got 3 or 4 productive years in front of him. And going with Blanco everyday would be a collasal mistake. Can you imagine him and Izturis batting 7th and 8th followed by the pitcher? Yikes.

No clue, but I think I read on CBSsportsline rumor mill that the Jays ofseason needs were something like 2 catchers, a quality defensive ss, or a 2nd baseman, 2 back of the rotation starters and a reliever? but I have no clue what it would take to get wells. Lets also not forget that Blanco is 35 years old and his only strength is defense.

All true thenuge but if I can get a #2 or #3 pither for him......

I am getting a serious case of flop sweat just thinking of Hill/Suppan/Meche/Igawa behind Big Z. Yuk!

"i'd have to think hard about Barrett and Wuertz for Cain and a minor leaguer."

Dave, are you serious? Why would San Fran give up 5 years of Matt Cain PLUS a minor leaguer for one season of Barrett and a 28 year old MR. That's insane.

Matt Cain is going absolutely nowhere. And if the Cubs are smart, Barrett will do just the same. And Cubz23, your hypothetical rotation of Z/Hill/Suppan/Meche/Igawa won't happen because that would suggest the Cubs are willing to sign 3 Free Agent starting pitchers which the Cubs will not do. The Cubs will probably sign one, trade for one, and have someone hold down the 5th spot until it can be determined if Prior or Miller can pitch- maybe Sean Marshall. Also, seeing Sean Gallagher, or Donny Veal by July isn't outside the realm of possibilities.

Rich Hill & Barret for Carl Crawford & prospects. Use the money that is then not spent on Soriano/Lee on Schmidt/Zito + good 2nd tier pitcher. You could build an offense around Crawford for years to come.

There is no way Cain is going anywhere..if Sabean traded him he would be gone in san francisco. Also when he traded liriano he was always injured...sound firmilar? even though it was a horible trade. But Cain is staying put

Oh yeah, we'll take Navarro too. :o)

barret, marshall, izturis to the mets for lasings milledge and cash

Was kidding about Fox. Consequently he was hitting .357 until the beginning of November...

Serious about Cain, though. He's inconsistent as hell. A 4.15 ERA is decent, 190 innings is pretty good, 179 SO is slightly above average...He throws hard, but so does David Aardsma. He's also got to make it through his sophomore year. Barrett's got 300/20/80 potential. Who wouldn't want that from their catcher?

by the way, if anyone watched the cubs this last year, they SAW blanco, izturis and pitcher as the 7 8 9.

Gallagher and Veal by July would be a feat...has either of them pitched higher than A ball yet? To the big leagues in 1.5 years...not that it hasn't happened yet, but...


There is no way the Giants trade Cain for Barrett. Cain put up 3.38 ERA in the second half, with 9.2K/9 and 2.38 K/BB rate. You call him inconsistent as hell, I say he's a kid who turned 22 last month and really put up a good second half this year. That's not the kind of pitcher you trade for a 30 year old catcher in the last year of his contract.

cubs, what makes u think the mets would want barret izturis or marshall lol. The have the best SS in the league, lo duca isnt going anywhere right now, sean marshal i could see them having a little interest in maybe but thats it. LOL gatliing good job one bitching out dave the idiot for one of the stupidest remarks ever. Matt cain is a fucken stud, like u said only 22. Im not sure if there is any pitcher in the NL i would trade him for straight up. There probably are a couple, but not many. He is by far the best young pitcher in the national league right now, dave where the hell were u when he put up like 30 consecutive innings without an earned run in august/september

"Barrett's got 300/20/80 potential. Who wouldn't want that from their catcher? "


Obviously you dont dave, because you are throwing out ridiculous ideas for him to be traded. In a good offer, yeah im sure he will be dealt. Westbrook, maybe cliff lee yeah, thats not happening, but the point is you are just throwing out names of guys without even thinking of the stuff that matters(indians have a catcher already, another one whos ready, matt cain is a stud, and isnt going anywhere). Liriano was different, he hadnt put up good numbers in the majors when he was traded and wasnt considered a top propect.

While your at it, why dont you just trade jacque jones and izturis for hanley ramirez and a prospect

I just had to create an account to comment on how stupid Dave is for proposing the Cain for Barrett deal. Are you out of your fucking mind? Cain??!! Do you even watch baseball? Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

Here lets look-
Cain - 22
Future Ace quality pitcher
Locked up cheap for 5 years
New face of franchise

Barrett- 30
Good not great catcher
entering walk year
skills will probably decline in the next couple years

You must know this was on of the more idiotic trades you could have ever thought up.

While we are at it why don't the Yankees trade Hughes and Tabata for Mark Redman. Or the Mets trade Wright and Beltran for Doug Mirabelli.

haha i love it. you know your a dumbass when somebody makes an account just to tell you how stupid you are, and on top of that makes their account name calling u a retard, ohh shit thats good stuff

NOPE DIDNT YOU HEAR THAT THE CUBS GOT HIM BACK FOR NOTHIN IM SERIOUS DUDE BUT YEAH NOW THE CUBS ARE GOING TO BE VERY DANGEROUS THEY GOT SOMEBODY GOOD

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