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Jon Heyman reports that the Tigers have acquired Gary Sheffield for Humberto Sanchez and two Class A pitchers, Kevin Whelan and Anthony Claggett.
It's a superb deal for New York at first glance, as Sanchez has great stuff and profiles as at least a middle-rotation starter for years to come. Baseball Prospectus's Kevin Goldstein ranked Sanchez as the 11th best right-handed starting prospect in the game, holding him back only because of elbow concerns. The Yankees should have young guys comprising 60% of their rotation by the end of '07.
And Whelan, if things break right, could be setting up Mariano Rivera by 2008. The 23 year-old throws four different fastballs.
That's a lot to give up for Sheff, but credit the Tigers for making a win-now move for the patient slugger they needed. According to Heyman, "the Tigers will extend Sheffield's contract for two years beyond the one year and $13 million remaining."
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What a bad trade by the Tigers
Posted by: Kramerica Industries | November 10, 2006 at 02:31 PM
At its simplest, most stripped-down, it's still an upgrade over Casey.
Posted by: nickjs21 | November 10, 2006 at 02:34 PM
wow, the tigers got hosed.
Posted by: anthoneytheghost | November 10, 2006 at 02:45 PM
Tigers got ripped!! Thank you Tigers. Shef is what 38 or 39? This guy is old, plus he has wrist problems (well no duh after you swing as if you were trying to hit a 500ft HR). Who knows if the wrist problems won't hold him back.
Now from the Yanks point of view, great trade. They finally learned, hey let's go with young pitching. Humberto is a nice 3-5 starter, and Whelan is a great RP, the succesor to Mos spot. Now the Yanks got the cancer out of there, and they can pursue a good 1B.
Good job Yanks. Horrible job Tigers, have fun with your rental player, hope he kills your clubhouse too.
Posted by: ballin23 | November 10, 2006 at 02:45 PM
Its not that bad. He can still hit around .300 being a 20/80 guy. They don't have to pay for his contract and the Tigers pitchers are pretty much set. I don't think its a great move but it'll work for them, i believe.
Posted by: stlplaya2143 | November 10, 2006 at 02:50 PM
Tigers didn't get "hosed" at all. They're stacked with young pitchers and just got a legitimate #3 stud hitter for the middle of their lineup. They are ready to contend for the World Series right now...isn't that why they play the game?
Posted by: Teetz | November 10, 2006 at 02:52 PM
Sheffield will hit closer to 30/100 than 20/80.
I'm a Yanks fan and, while he can be poison to the clubhouse, Sheff is a hitting force. He might need to move to 1B or DH by the end of his extension with the Tigers but he will be a consistently good hitter.
Posted by: Jaggie | November 10, 2006 at 02:54 PM
I take that back. They signed him through 2009. I dunno bout that. He still a good hitter that might help out that young line-up
Posted by: stlplaya2143 | November 10, 2006 at 02:54 PM
Wow. I love it for the Yankees, maybe even better than the Sanchez/Rodney trade that I mentioned earlier. Talent-wise, it's not awful for the Tigers (though it certainly makes it less likely they'll trade Bonderman or another starter), but a 2 year extension? Part of the reason Sheffield was so valuable was because he was only under contract for 2007.
But I agree, still have to give the Tigers credit for doing what it took to get the big bat. Now they don't have to mess around with the free agents and can focus on filling smaller holes.
Posted by: bobo | November 10, 2006 at 02:57 PM
I'm not saying that he wouldn't but that was just a safe projection. He'll help them out alittle bit. I almost thought it would be nice to see him in a Cards uniform next year but I don't think that would have happened.
Posted by: stlplaya2143 | November 10, 2006 at 02:58 PM
I guess this can quell the Bonderman rumors. I suppose one could feel more secure with Bonderman Sheffield then Dunn and Sanchez. I underestimated the market for hitters severely there.
Yankees making a steal trading Sheffield and junk for Abreu and Sanchez. Nice combo.
Posted by: Thrillhouse26 | November 10, 2006 at 02:59 PM
I'm actually surprised the Yanks traded him to an AL team, especially the one who knocked them out of the playoffs. With their rotation and now with Sheffield, Detroit will be a much improved team even from last year. Give Verlander another year under his belt and move Zumaya to closer and that team is downright scary.
Posted by: Jaggie | November 10, 2006 at 03:01 PM
Yeah but first they'll need to work on the fundamentals.
Posted by: stlplaya2143 | November 10, 2006 at 03:02 PM
Sheff is a MONSTER bat and just what the Tigers need, but I think they gave up too much.
Posted by: YankeeBaseball | November 10, 2006 at 03:02 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Stupid Tigers...Here's to hoping Sanchez turns out to be a crap bullpen arm.
Posted by: ArodSucksAtLife | November 10, 2006 at 03:04 PM
Did the Yankees pick up any of the salary that Sheffield is owed for next season? If not, the Tigers got hosed.
Posted by: NotoriousVC | November 10, 2006 at 03:32 PM
Yeah just signed his $13 million option then decided to trade him.
Posted by: stlplaya2143 | November 10, 2006 at 03:34 PM
So, the $13 million he'll make next season is paid for by the Yankees?
Posted by: NotoriousVC | November 10, 2006 at 03:35 PM
Yes i believe so.
Posted by: stlplaya2143 | November 10, 2006 at 03:38 PM
I don't think they're paying the $13M. It's possible but it seems like too much. Haven't seen anything about the money.
Picking the option has nothing to do with paying his salary.
Posted by: bobo | November 10, 2006 at 03:41 PM
errr...i dont think so. some of the money is deferred i believe tho.
Posted by: anthoneytheghost | November 10, 2006 at 03:42 PM
in my belief i think it was even to both teams. the tigers got the big bat they needed and the yankees are paying for him this year so they can get another key playerlike zito or drew which though i doubt they will get but im just throwin names out there. in the yankees case they finnally joined the baseball world and got young pitching so kudos to them especially because the pitchers they got are superb. well thats all
Posted by: bravesrule14 | November 10, 2006 at 03:44 PM
No Yankees dont pay jack. The Yanks did pick up his option, but the trade didnt involve any cash, and immediaetly after the trade Shef signed a 2 year deal with the Tigers, Yanks pay zip, Tigers pay all.
Posted by: ballin23 | November 10, 2006 at 03:44 PM
Playa, that doesn't mean the yankees pay his salary. To put this deal in perspective though two of those pitchers are single A. It is no given how they turn out. Probably overpaid but its just a fact of the game now that you have to overpay to acquire top of the line players. You can argue if sheffield is still a great player but you cant argue that it is not almost exactly what the tigers needed. However, I see them basically pulling a white sox next year. The pitching staff overperformed and might not be enough to make the playoffs. Red Sox and Yankees stock up off of dissapointing seasons and Minnesota wins the division.
Posted by: walkoffblast | November 10, 2006 at 03:49 PM
I'm a little upset that the Yankees may be turning the corner on the "wasting money will make us winners" philosophy. I always enjoyed watching them get bounced. Now they're going after young pitching. We're all doomed if the Yankees get smart, people.
Posted by: nickjs21 | November 10, 2006 at 03:55 PM
first of all sheffield signed an EXTENSION not a contract which means he has 3 years on the tigers, and the yankees do pay for most of the first year he is in detroit
Posted by: bravesrule14 | November 10, 2006 at 03:55 PM
Don't fear nick steinbrenner is still in charge. Imagine what he will do if the red sox outbid him for Matsuzaka?
Posted by: walkoffblast | November 10, 2006 at 04:01 PM
Uhh, no, Steinbrenner is not still in charge. Not like he used to be. And according to Olney, the Red Sox did outbid him for Matsuzaka...so what exactly is he going to do? I hate the Yanks as much as the next Boston fan...but they're moving in the right direction, and that scares me a little.
Posted by: desturbd1 | November 10, 2006 at 04:12 PM
bravesrule - what's your source for saying the yankees pay for most of the first year?
Posted by: bobo | November 10, 2006 at 04:13 PM
The Yankees did not pay any money in the deal. The Tigers are on the hook for the 8 million sheff is due this year plus the money for the extension plus the 5 million that is deferred.
Posted by: Kyle | November 10, 2006 at 04:21 PM
now that i have re-read the article i made a mistake the yankees are not paying sorry anyeayz these are the silver slugger winners DH/P David Ortiz Carlos Zambrano
C Joe Mauer Brian McCann
1B Justin Morneau Ryan Howard
2B Robinson Cano Chase Utley
SS Derek Jeter Jose Reyes
3B Joe Crede Miguel Cabrera
OF Jermaine Dye Carlos Beltran
OF Vladimir Guerrero Alfonso Soriano
OF Joe Mauer Matt Holliday
also robin yount stepped down as brewers bench coach
Posted by: bravesrule14 | November 10, 2006 at 04:24 PM
actually instead of joe mauer at that last of spot its manny ramirez
Posted by: bravesrule14 | November 10, 2006 at 04:28 PM
MLB.com just confirmed the trade a good hour after this post. Stay Hot! how do you do it?!
Posted by: coolpapabell | November 10, 2006 at 04:32 PM
Eh I don't deserve any credit. All I did was post a link. Heyman is the man for scooping it.
Posted by: RotoAuthority | November 10, 2006 at 04:35 PM
you da man
Posted by: bravesrule14 | November 10, 2006 at 04:38 PM
Anyone here who things Sheffield won't produce isn't smart. He's not a rent-a-player, he's with the Tigers until 2009. I'll make a personal guarentee that he's going to have 100 RBI's in two of his next three seasons with the the Tigers. Everyone will regret saying what they're saying about him.
Posted by: Guardo369 | November 10, 2006 at 04:47 PM
Sheffield will produce, just not at a $13M/season level in 2009. I can't comprehend the motiviation for the extension. If you're that scared of the player ruining your clubhouse if he's unhappy, then don't trade for him.
Posted by: bobo | November 10, 2006 at 04:54 PM
i agree with guardo. though i hated sheffield for leaving the braves and going to the yankees i think he is one of the best active hitters in terms of power, average, and run producing. what all you guys forget to mention is evn with his injuries and age, sheffield still has one of the quickest bats in the mlb and every casual baseball fan should know that bat speed generates power.
Posted by: bravesrule14 | November 10, 2006 at 04:57 PM
BP 2006 on Sheff:
"Even at his age, his bat remains one of the quickest in the game, too quick in fact; Sheffield leads the league in the informal category of 'potential home runs pulled foul;' if the left field foul pole was just a few feet further left, Sheffield would average a home run a game. Even without that, Sheffield has a lot left to offer."
Posted by: nickjs21 | November 10, 2006 at 05:58 PM
congratulations nick u just successfully repeated wat i just said
Posted by: bravesrule14 | November 10, 2006 at 06:20 PM
Yknow I hate to be a nitpicker here but
A) "He's still got the quickest bat speed in the AL.
Posted by: nickjs21 | November 10, 2006 at 02:33 PM" -- That was from another story on this site
B) Had I not already said that, you still wouldn't have claim to be the First Person Ever to Point That Out.
C) The BP quote was more the clever (IMO) home runs pulled foul stat.
Posted by: nickjs21 | November 10, 2006 at 07:10 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Sheffield is a major question mark? Did everyone forget he missed 120 GAMES WITH A WRIST INJURY AT AGE 37?? That is all.
Posted by: SiddFinch | November 10, 2006 at 07:20 PM
HAHA...TIGERS ARE IDIOTS, Dave Dombrowski used up all of his luck with the crap that was good this year (Rogers, Monroe, Thames etc) and he is remembering that he is a bad GM. The Tigers will be back in the doldrums...
If they were going to trade Sanchez, they could've gotten Teixeira, Tejada etc. Instead, they used one of their best trading chips/prospects for a 38-year-old in decline (can still though) AND gave him an extension.
I mean, I was hearing Sheffield for Michael Wuertz/Bob Howry etc. I never thought that a trade would happen so fast (i.e. before FA signings), but this was such a rip-off for the Yankees that they had no choice to take it before the Beirut Tigers realized how stupid they were.
Posted by: zubes007 | November 10, 2006 at 07:28 PM
if anybody is an idiot its you. they got sheffield because thats what they needed where were they going to put tejada and im almost certain the rangers were asking for more than the yankees were. and how can you call a gm bad when he takes a team that 3 years b4 had 119 loses and then gets them to the world series. he made the right moves and by the way he is not lucky. Rogers has putting up those numbers for the past 3 years and thames and monroe were highly touted prospects with the rangers and yankees b4 coming to the tigers. you dont win 95 games and call it a fluke these arnt the 84 tigers these are our tigers
Posted by: bravesrule14 | November 10, 2006 at 09:45 PM
I love this trade from both sides. The Tigers biggest issues were too many strikeouts and a lack of production form first base and DH. Sheffiel slots in as a DH and gives them a solid OBP guy. Sheffield has walked more than he struck out every year from 1994-2005. Sheff will play 140-155 games and hit 35 homers with 110 RBI's a .290 average and around a .385 OBP. He will be a great 5 hitter for the tigers.
On the flip side Sanchez and Whelan give the Yankees two more solid pitching prospects. Sanchez will join Hughes and Clippard at AAA and give the Yankees solid pitching depth.
You can say whatever you want but Sanchez wasnt going to get the Tigers Teixeira. That was going to take at least bonderman. Trading Sanchez allows them to get a bat for the next three years without affecting their major league lineup. They will enter next year with the same starting rotation as well as Andrew Miller in the high minors waiting for someone to get hurt and then he can step in for Rogers in 2008.
This was a perfect trade the Tigers moved their strength to get a power hitter who doesnt strike out. That is a good deal. Sheff will produce for them.
Posted by: Kyle | November 10, 2006 at 10:02 PM
thank u kyle now i know there is one less idiot in the world
Posted by: bravesrule14 | November 10, 2006 at 10:10 PM
lol go figure yankee fans get 3 prospects already overvaluing the shit out of them. I saw one guy say they found a number 3 starter and their next closer. Not that this is a surprise or anything( i mean who ever heard of an overvalued yankee prospect before), but jeez, its a little premature to say all this shit
Posted by: nrmax88 | November 11, 2006 at 02:56 AM
i agree sheff is a big questionmark, but bravesrule dont even argue with the yankee fans, they just have to make sure everyone knows that not only did they get the better end of the deal, but that the tigers are idiots. They could have traded jeter for alex gonazales , but they would still be trying to say they somehow got the better end of the deal, probably cuz they have some kid in the dominican winterball league hitten .312 thats ready to take over for jeter.
Also, whoever said the tigers will be the last years whitesox, couldnt disagree more. Verlander, Bonderman, Rogers, Maroth, Roberston, Miner, and Andrew Miller sounds alot better then buerhle, garcia, vasquez, contreras, and garland(not that they both arent good staffs), but detroit has the deeper, more powerful, younger staff there. I am not a sheffield fan, but i agree that they did need his bat, although i think they needed a lefty more then a righty, but sheff was what they needed. I also agree with the point however, that sheff missed the whole season with a broken wrist(a wrist extremely important to his lightening quick bat speed and torque on his swing), and he is 37, where the injury will not heel as quickly as it would have 10 years ago, and he didnt show after coming off the dl that he was back to 100 percent by any means. If he is healthy, it is a good teal for each team
Posted by: nrmax88 | November 11, 2006 at 03:09 AM
NRMax (we meet again), how are Yankees fans overvaluing Sanchez? Rotoworld had him 29th at midseason (9th SP behind Hughes, Bailey, Gallardo, Hirsch, Adenhart, Garza, Penn & Danks); Sickels rates him as a B+ prospect.
My only remaining question is whether you knowingly misrepresent things or if you really believe what you type.
Posted by: Not Joe Morgan | November 11, 2006 at 09:39 AM
I like the trade for the Tigers, but i just have one question. Do you guys think they could of gotten a younger All-Star slugger for what they gave up? I'm talkin about like an Andruw Jones or Carl Crawford. If they could lock up Andruw Jones through 2009 like they did Sheffield I think that would be a much better option. Do you guys think what they gave for Sheffield would of been enough for Jones or Crawford?
Posted by: pistonsfan133 | November 11, 2006 at 12:12 PM
The Tigers dealt from an area of strength in there organization to get something they, well honestly, debateably needed. Yes it helps, a guy like Sheff will always help a team(on the field), but needed? Eh. As for saying the Yankee's robbed the Tigers, they got a low level-A pitcher, a single-A pitcher, and a AA pitcher who was untouchable until his elbow injury and is as big if not bigger than CC/David Wells. His AAA numbers were 5-3 with around a 3.80 ERA I believe. This trade COULD turn out great for the Yankee's but as it is, it's a good one for the Tigers and a respectable one for the Yankee's, heck, they finally traded for minor league talent, when was the last time they did something like this? If the Tigers wanted, they could trade Monroe or Thames now as well. I think they could play Sheff like this: 50 Games DH, 50 OF, 25 1B. Lets be honest, Maggs needed a few more days off last year. This isn't a brilliant trade or a theft, it's just a solid/good one.
Posted by: Droptop | November 11, 2006 at 07:46 PM
My question as to needing Sheff is if they could've traded for a legit 1B with power and that Sheff isn't left handed, which I think they still need, if not more so now.
Posted by: Droptop | November 11, 2006 at 07:51 PM
njm... i dont care what he is ranked in the minors, until he does something at the major league level, he is nothing now. Are you ready to say that they have found their next closer? Because that would roughly be overvalueing a prospect whos been in your system all of 24 hours
Posted by: nrmax88 | November 11, 2006 at 09:05 PM
Hey drop top, Leyland promised Sheffield he wouldnt have to play 1st base. I mean i could see him playin maybe 1 or 2 games but 25 would be a little much especially since he didnt look good at first during the post-season. I cant see him playin more then 10 games at first and defidently not 25. But we will see.
Posted by: pistonsfan133 | November 11, 2006 at 09:09 PM
Hey Pistons, I hadn't heard that but that makes me think that they'll try to package Monroe or Thames for a 1B or that "heir to Pudge" I heard they want. I don't see why people are acting like they have to get a 1B though, why not sign or trade for a SS and move Guillen over to 1B full-time?
Posted by: Droptop | November 12, 2006 at 12:52 AM
Yea but i like guillen a lot more at short even tho he does make errors, but he also makes plays a lot of other SS wouldnt. I think the should re-sign casey or they really dont have to do anything they could just give the spot to shelton. Maybe he will play the hole year like he did the first month last year. I would like to see them get a 3rd basemen though. We need more offenseive production out of 3rd base. Maybe like Aramis Ramirez, that would be sweet, i actually have heard rumors.
Posted by: pistonsfan133 | November 12, 2006 at 09:02 AM