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Mariners In On Zito?

Larry Stone of the Seattle Times calls the Mariners a "decided longshot" in the Barry Zito sweepstakes, but also writes of rumblings in the baseball world that they could make him an offer.  Given the likely price and commitment, I don't think a Zito signing would redeem Bill Bavasi's offseason. 

The rotation as it stands today:

Felix Hernandez
Jarrod Washburn
Miguel Batista
Horacio Ramirez
Jake Woods

Basically, King Felix plus four guys who pitch to contact.  The White Sox made it work in '05 with great defense, durability, and a little luck.  Will the 2007 Mariner staff have those qualities?

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No they won't.

GUys the orioles are gonna zito. Just watch, we are gonna come out of nowhere and get him at the last second

for once, I agree with ArodSucksAtLife.

I would love it if they could get him. That would make the mets sitting there going wtf just happend. It would make that NL East race very very interesting.

Signing Barry Zito to a hundred million dollar contract would not only not redeem Bill Bavasi's offseason, but it would put it in the lead for the worst offseason of all time.

I still don't see how Zito could just go for the money. He would still make A LOT of money playing in NY, and would have the opportunity to make much more in endorsements. Plus, he would have the chance the play for a competetive team... something Seattle, Texas, nor Baltimore can offer.

Zito would get rocked in the AL East. Toronto annihilates lefties. Boston is brutal. O's and TB are solid with the sticks as well.

He meant the Mets.

Oh, in which case, do it. Zito is a reverse lefty which works well for the power slant that occurs at Shea.

I think in all likely hood Zito ends up in texas. Everyone keeps saying how if he wants to win he will go to NYM, which is probably true, but don't forget that if u add zito into the rotation in texas and then wait a year for some of those pitching prospects to come up, that team is going to be very very good as well. I think it comes down to who offers more money and I think that will be texas. NYM will probably end up trading for lieber or somebody like that.

i pray that ur right greenbay.

Zito's asking price is comical.

100 million for that?

Rich Hill is a better pitcher right now.

take his girly fastball and 100 walks to Texas PLEASE!!!

I would take Zito as a MEt, because i think he will do good here. On the flipside, if he goes to Texas he will not make Met fans regret not signing him. No Greenbay, Texas is not good now, nor will they be in the near future.
Not until their owner figures out how to own a team. NYM will not trade for Jon Lieber. I think if they dont sign Zito, they will go to war with what they have of atleast make a trade for somebody who is somewhat good. Liever is no better then what they alreadfy have. I have noo problem goin into a season with Glavine, Duque, Maine, Ollie Perez, and Mulvey/ Pelfrey/ Humber/ Soler, who ever earns the job.


"That would make the mets sitting there going wtf just happend"

Umm, no not really though. You make it sound as if they Mets are going all out for Zito. If Omar thought Zito was an absolute necessity, he would have already made offers, trying to make sure he locked them up. I dont think Minaya feels like the Mets need Zito and i agree. I would think he will offer something like 4/55, or 5/70, maybe with options and incentives that can get him close to the 100 mil he wants if he performs well, but i doubt he would just hand out 6 or 7 years for a gaurunteed 100 mil. I would be extremelu dissapointed if he did this.

I would take Zito as a MEt, because i think he will do good here. On the flipside, if he goes to Texas he will not make Met fans regret not signing him. No Greenbay, Texas is not good now, nor will they be in the near future.
Not until their owner figures out how to own a team. NYM will not trade for Jon Lieber. I think if they dont sign Zito, they will go to war with what they have of atleast make a trade for somebody who is somewhat good. Liever is no better then what they alreadfy have. I have noo problem goin into a season with Glavine, Duque, Maine, Ollie Perez, and Mulvey/ Pelfrey/ Humber/ Soler, who ever earns the job.


"That would make the mets sitting there going wtf just happend"

Umm, no not really though. You make it sound as if they Mets are going all out for Zito. If Omar thought Zito was an absolute necessity, he would have already made offers, trying to make sure he locked them up. I dont think Minaya feels like the Mets need Zito and i agree. I would think he will offer something like 4/55, or 5/70, maybe with options and incentives that can get him close to the 100 mil he wants if he performs well, but i doubt he would just hand out 6 or 7 years for a gaurunteed 100 mil. I would be extremelu dissapointed if he did this.

"You make it sound as if they Mets are going all out for Zito. If Omar thought Zito was an absolute necessity, he would have already made offers, trying to make sure he locked them up. I dont think Minaya feels like the Mets need Zito and i agree."

Until D-Mat and Drew were taken care of, there was no market for Zito. He is a Boras client.

But you are right, that contract could be stifling for a team that is in for some overhaul in a few years. (corner OF, SPs, 1B, C, all getting up there in age)

As a Braves fan, I hope the Mets do not get Zito. If the Mets do however, the NL East will be the toughest division in baseball. I really hope Zito signs with the Rangers. He knows AL hitters, and maybe the Rangers will even surprise most in 2007 and sneak away with the AL wildcard, or something like that.

Ok Fellow Mets fans... Bashing Zito?!?!? Zito only cost Money.... the Mets have Plenty, The new Citifield deal pays for itself... You Rather give up great young pitching prospects for Mediocre Pitching Via a Trade? That is Crazy... The Mets could double their Payroll, and the Wilpons will still get rich(er). Is Zito worth $100 Million.... Hell No... but he is the best FA Avaiable... give him whatever he wants, and move on...

"As a Braves fan, I hope the Mets do not get Zito. If the Mets do however, the NL East will be the toughest division in baseball."

HAHHA It is a 2 team Divsion... You have to be high to think the Braves are going to be good this year...

I had no idea that Barry Zito was all that was missing in making the NL East "the toughest division in baseball."

That is clearly, clearly the AL East. You could give every team in the NL East a Barry Zito and that would still be true.

The AL East has 2 tough teams. Granted, maybe the two toughest teams in all of baseball, but the AL Central will be the toughest division to win next year. Everybody but my team has a chance to do it next year.

"Ok Fellow Mets fans... Bashing Zito?!?!? Zito only cost Money.... the Mets have Plenty, The new Citifield deal pays for itself... You Rather give up great young pitching prospects for Mediocre Pitching Via a Trade? That is Crazy... The Mets could double their Payroll, and the Wilpons will still get rich(er). Is Zito worth $100 Million.... Hell No... but he is the best FA Avaiable... give him whatever he wants, and move on..."


HAHAHAHAAH you must be steve phillips JR or something. You dont over pay a guy because he is the best lkeft. Nobody ever said anything about trrading prospects for pitching. Im fine going into the season with what we have. There isnt a team in the NL without some holes. Royaldaddy i agree that the AL central is much better then the NL or AL east divisions

"HAHHA It is a 2 team Divsion... You have to be high to think the Braves are going to be good this year..."

umm no its not. The Braves, Mets, Phillies, and Marlins will all be competing this year. The Braves and Phillies have the best pitching staffs. The Braves also have the best defense, The Marlins have a bunch of proven young talent, and the Mets have possibly one of the greatest hitting lineups in the history of baseball. at least none of them will be in last as the Nats are also in the division.

oh for the record, i think Texas will win the Al Wild Card next year. u just watch especilly if they sign Zito and Mulder.

"Im fine going into the season with what we have. "
Really.... really?!?!?! It's a worst Rotation than Last year! What Are you talking about. Zito or No Zito, the Mets WILL make a move for another starting picther. AND that starting pitcher will cost us Prospects.. a Few of them. AND "There isnt a team in the NL without some holes" ok not having a left-handed specialist out of the pen... is a Hole. Not have a starting Rotation is not just a hole. Perez, Maine, show Promise... but the Mets ABSOULTELY need another starting Pitcher... your Choice Money or Prospects..

Bravesrule14,

I'm sorry.. I am... But someone has to tell you the truth... The Braves are throwing in towel... they are selling the Team.. they are dismanling... BUT They will be rebuilding, after they sell the team. I Know.. it sucks

It is not a worse rotation then last year, trachsel is gone, and anyone is an improvement. The mets had the 3rd best era in the league in 06. Pretty good for such horrible pitching. My choice is go with what we have., And it depends what prospects and who were getting back. Texas is absoultely awful. I will kill myself if Texas beats out the angels, a's, indians ,whitesox, tigers, twins, redsox, jays, and yankees. No fucking way

If Zito wants to sign for 4/55, or 5/70 (which is still to much) then i would be okay with that. I would much rather run pelfrey or humber out there before buying zito for 100 million dollars.

tell u the truth, i would rather take a chance on joel piniero then sign Zito to big money like that, i dont think im alone thinking that either

he Braves are not dismantling. i cant see any reason as t why u would think that. they are not the Braves of the nineties, but they are still the Braves and should be considered contenders until otherwse

I don't see Zito signing with the Mets - would serve them better to throw money to Suppan and give the $20 mil a year to Carlos Zambrano next yr when Glavine comes off the books. That would make Mets 08 SP
Martinez
Zambrano
Suppan
Maine
Pelfry

Excuse me while i laugh about the idea of Texas winning the Wild Card this year. I don't even get what you are looking at to make you think that. If you change Zito and Mudler to Zito and Clemens i'll give them a shot but they are not better then the A's, Angels, Red Sox, Yankees, White Sox, Twins, or Tigers as they are presently constructed. Their current ace had a 4.52 ERA and their bullpen is going to be depending on a man that has pitched less then 16 innings. But hey, maybe Danks will be ready to contribute and maybe they will surprise a few people. Even still they have a better chance of winning their division then the Wild Card.

The NL East as the toughest division? That's a riot! The AL Central and AL East are easily the toughest divisions in baseball...easily. And sorry, the Braves will get mauled next year...they are simply rebuilding. Every team goes through it, but some never seem to get out of it, i.e. Cubs, Royals, Rangers (who have virtually no chance of the playoffs next year.)

WRONG WRONG WRONG zito will end up in atlanta for far less money than any pitcher left on the open market not only that but mulder will also

wow are you serious bravesfan? there's no way zitos going to sign with atlanta! its almost certain that either the mets or rangers are gonna land him. and I'm sorry to say for the mets fans above but most likely scott boras(disease to baseball) will get zito that huge chunk amount of money that you guys don't wanna see him get. and kudos to the man who thinks the money would be better off spent on big z not aging z. but u can't have him.

" and I'm sorry to say for the mets fans above but most likely scott boras(disease to baseball) will get zito that huge chunk amount of money that you guys don't wanna see him get"
not from omar dude.

well we'll see pretty soon but I'm leaning towards the mets paying zito what we fear he's not worth. But if minaya is smart enough and decides not to be ridculous then your gonna have the fans with opposite opinions all pissed off on why he didn't get the deal done if zito signs for more elsewhere. Either way people will be upset but I think signing him would be great for the mets and for zito, and you know how messed up the market is now thanks to agents like boras so players are gonna be overpaid like our new dominican daddy soriano!

Did someone just compare the Mariners' craptastic rotation to the White Sox's? Booooo.

The possessive form of "White Sox" might be one of the more awkward things to pronounce.

^ And that was me contributing nothing to this discussion.

I say Zito's best fit is in Texas.

"well we'll see pretty soon but I'm leaning towards the mets paying zito what we fear he's not worth. But if minaya is smart enough and decides not to be ridculous then your gonna have the fans with opposite opinions all pissed off on why he didn't get the deal done if zito signs for more elsewhere. Either way people will be upset but I think signing him would be great for the mets and for zito, and you know how messed up the market is now thanks to agents like boras so players are gonna be overpaid like our new dominican daddy soriano!
"

Good post and i completely agree, no matter what Omar does people are gona be pissed one way or another. Unless he signs him for some cheap skimpy deal then everyone is happy besides scotty boras. Nick just curious how come you think zito best fit is texas. I dont think so at all. The only benefti from going to SF would be the money. In NY, he will be a rock star, like many have said before, he will make a ton of money doin other things, like subway commercials with willie randolph, he can look into his music alot more in NY then in texas, peterson, the ballpark, the better team, I just dont see why any player would want to play in Texas. Zito especially. He seems built for a big city. If it comes down to the money and he goes to Texas i am also fine with that. Im not one of these fans who thinks if the mets dont sign zito then give up on the season. I was just curious to your opinion as to why you say that Texas is a better fit for him

A question to the cubbies fans:
Is there any talk in Chi-town about Carlos Z testing the free agent market?

the braves are not rebuilding. only ingnorant and stupod fans can think that. Francoeur, LaRoche, and McCann all had breakout years last year. LaRoche has 35+ HR power, Francoeur is a big RBI guy ,and McCann is probably the best hitting catcher in the MLB. if we have a healthy Chipper and a good season from Andruw and especially if we pick up Baldelli this Braves team could be one of the best.

I cant see why Big Z wouldnt test FA.

bravesrule14,

I love your enthusiasm.. I do.. and I was talking the same smack a couple years ago when we got Robbie Alomar, Mo Vaughn.. and thats what a true fan does.. So I Applaud your undying support, but when you throw out Francoeur, LaRoche, and McCann and honestly think you going to win with that your insane, their not even the best at their position in their own division... Let alone the "Best Hitting Catcher in MLB"... to quote Frank from Old School- "Your crazy... your crazy... I like you.. but your crazy"

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