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Marlins Considering Shannon Stewart

There's not much left among free agent outfielders; Shannon Stewart may be the best bat still standing.  On Friday, the Marlins observed Stewart at a private workout.  They're considering him as a center field option.

As Clark Spencer writes, Stewart hasn't played center since 2000.  Even then it was just one game.  He hasn't played the position even semi-regularly since playing 44 games there in 1998 with the Blue Jays.  Stewart will be 33 soon and has problems with both feet.  Even if he could hit like a center fielder, he probably can't stay on the field regularly or play credible defense.  The Marlins would probably offer a million bucks plus incentives, and then use Alex Sanchez as the backup plan.

I'm surprised they can't snag a Reggie Willits or David Murphy type, a blocked young guy who could be an average center fielder.

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Or Franklin Gutierrez in Cleveland, who has about 6 outfielders in front of him.

I would love Wilts and his OBP on the team. I still have never heard a rumor of the marlins contacting the LAA over him though. I know they are high on Hickman, but he is 2 years away. Stewart though is a local guy and would be nice to have down here on the cheap for a vet influence.

But I believe murphy seems to be a no go for boston seems to want tankersly (which is far to much to give for him).

If he gets a mill + incentives I will really be pissed at the Braves for not makin a play for him. He would be exactly what we need to finish off a great off-season. Signing Stewart would make Diaz and Langerhans 4th and 4A OF. Moves Kelly Johnson outta leadoff and probably 8th where he would have no pressure. A Wilson/Thorman platoon and a legit leadoff guy. With Langerhans Diaz and even Wilson we can give him plenty of rest. I really believe he would be a perfect fit.To be that cheap it would be a perfect fit.

And I can't believe the Mariners aren't offerin Reed to the Marlins who are dying to get a CF. The Marlins have young SP or young good pitching in general.But hey Weaver ain't all that old himself huh.

I'm surprised Alex Rios, a young 5 tool player who the Marlins could insert in their awesome young lineup, hasn't been brought over for a stud SP

Baldelli and Guzman for Olsen and a pitching prospect- which team doesn't do that trade?

I am suprised there haven't been any rumors involving the Mets or Yankees and the Marlins. Not because there is some great fit, but just because (1) rumors about the New York teams just seem to be made up (remember when the Yankees were getting C Tracy and two top prosects for Johnson?), and (2) the Mets and Marlins front offices seem to work well together on trades.

Yeah you think if they would try out Shannon Stewart in CF, they would want an actually good OF to play their, Ie: Alex Rios. I bet they were saying that to downplay his trade value. But even if they gave up a good pitcher, it would make sense for them as they could seriously be a contending team with a piece like him and still a great pitching staff. Of course, I'm a Blue Jays fan and now it doesn't seem like there's room in the rotation for a pitcher, unless he's really good, or they keep Ohka or Thomson in the bullpen as a 6th starter. Those guys are injury prone, but at this point they may as well take a flier on them.

Two of the Marlins young pitchers have been experiencing some arm trouble this offseason. No one has noted any serious alarm, but they're likely to excercise caution in dealing from their young pitching "depth."

Who said there's no such thing as a pitching prospect? Seems as though the notion of young studs is a fleeting apparition as well.

i agree on Rios. ive read before that the Marlins are not high on Rios' ability to play CF.. yet they are willing to sign Stewart? are you kidding me?
i understand that in a trade for Rios they would have to give up good pitching talent, but whoever they would give up for Rios IMO has to be better than going with Shannon Stewart.

I don't wanna trade Rios though. The rotatoin is in place, even if it is injury prone.

They should trade them Reed Johnson to play CF, but I guess he's in arbitration years...but that way the stingy Marlins wouldn't have to give up a lot in trade, which is why they're probably not wanting Rios...It would open room for Lind, but Johnson is still not bad.

How about from LAA: 3B/CF Figgins, OF Rivera, IF Aybar, and P Saunders for Cabrera?

Not nearly enough for Cabrera. Change Saunders to Jared Weaver or Adenhart and maybe the Marlins would even begin to start discussing something.

"If he gets a mill + incentives I will really be pissed at the Braves for not makin a play for him."

I'm a Mets fan, but I agree with you and sure hope that doesn't happen. Even if they were to sign Stewart to that kind of money just to give him 350-400 AB's in left field could be huge for the Braves, and the worst case scenario is they have a million dollar 5th outfielder/pinch hitter/pinch runner, and that's not that bad a price.

some thoughts to your comments

Reed isnt really much of an upgrade over what we had, we is injury prone as well.

Rios would cost too much in trade and is in Arby already, and only had 1/2 of a good year in his career. He isnt worth moving a good pitcher for.

Baldelli + Guzman for olsen is interesting but they wont move Olsen so I dont see that happening. He is the most untouchable arm on the staff according to the word from them. guzman was also horrible last year.


How about from LAA: 3B/CF Figgins, OF Rivera, IF Aybar, and P Saunders for Cabrera?

Posted by: bubbacrosbysucks | January 30, 2007 at 11:33 AM


that is a joke right? It would take much much more then that to even start the talking and even then I dont see it happening the fish wont be moving cabrera till after 2008 at the earliest. He is a top 10 player in baseball easily.

Plus they wont even listen to call for him according to reports in the papers and Beinfest himself in interviews.


The marlins are looking for a stop gap for now, they dont feel they need a big time player in CF to win. They drafted 3 young Cf's last year. They want a young guy, prearby to slot into the young team to build with.

Which is why I dont understand why they have nothing to do with Wilts for a cheap prospect back (at 26 and 5thOF for LAA) he cant be that valuable to them.

It's not a joke. Bubba Crosby does, in fact, suck.

David Murphy for Jesus Delgado, and Harvey Garcia. Those are the two lesser known pitchers Boston sent in the Beckett deal.

The Marlins are stockpiling money to spend in three areas down the road.

Stadium. Willis. Cabrera.

They do not want to pay much of anything for a CF, and really want to keep any talent they have in the organization.

Maybe he was dejected at the time, and was speaking out of frustration but I remember Cabrera being quoted as saying "I'll do my time till FA, and then get the hell out of there."

If what he said is true I'll be amazed if he is in Florida for much longer. I'll try and find a link for it.

On second thought it was Delmon Young who said that, so forget my nonsense.

I would think they would try to lock up Cabrera soon, but if he really is going to be looking at A-Rod numbers, then no matter how much they scrimp and save, Florida can't afford him- you just can't have a third of your payroll tied up in one player. So maybe not this season, but at some point they may have to trade Cabrera, though I am sure they absolutely don't want to.
Willis, on the other hand, I'd be looking to trade this season. The market for starting pitching is so absurd now, and think what the Marlins got for Beckett last year; they might get double that for Willis. My guess is that unless they are in serious contention in July (which I doubt), then Willis gets traded.

Maybe he was dejected at the time, and was speaking out of frustration but I remember Cabrera being quoted as saying "I'll do my time till FA, and then get the hell out of there."

If what he said is true I'll be amazed if he is in Florida for much longer. I'll try and find a link for it.

Posted by: ArodSucksAtLife | January 30, 2007 at 04:40 PM

hmm dude he has never said that. Ever, he spoke this summer about wanting a long term contract with them even. His wife and family (some) are living here now and all as well and it is the largest spanish community in the country as well pretty much (dade is primarily spanish broward too).


As for the contracts there is little concern for it because once the stadium deal is done this market can support a 90+ million dollar payroll without much of a problem which means 17 -20 million easily could be part of the contracts and supported.
That is from Forbes btw.

On second thought it was Delmon Young who said that, so forget my nonsense.

Posted by: ArodSucksAtLife | January 30, 2007 at 04:42 PM

my bad I posted before I saw that :) I was gonna say though. He loves it here honestly from all reports, he cares more about the money then where he will be playing really, except he has said he wants toplay in a spanish community (limits the choices pretty much) and that he would like a spanish manager (he has one now whom he knew from the minors even :) ).

If the fish get the stadium deal he will be here long term, if not he will be gone by the end of 2009 pretty simply put. But, everything points to a new stadium and it looks pimp.

I wish the Marlins would take Gathright or Maier off of KC's hands for a good pitching prospect. Unfortunately I don't think that the Marlins are that stupid and Moore overvalues them too much.

The DBacks have Krynzel from the Brewers trade that the Marlins could probably get for a PTNL. I think the DBacks got him for trade insurance in case E Byrnes was traded, but have no use for him now and he's out of options.

He's supposedly and excellent defender, which speaks to his offense in the same way a blind date with a great personality would speak to their looks.

That PTBNL not PTNL.

What about the Brewers? They have six or seven outfielders they could deal. Brady Clark, Lanyce Nix, Gabe Gross, can play center field. I would think they could get either of them next to nothing.

Anyone think the Marlins would consider trading for Eric Byrnes of the D-backs? I am not looking forward to him putting up Average CF numbers in LF this year. Scott Hariston has been blocked for years, and seems to be quite the hitter, and I would love to see him get a shot in LF, rather than Byrnes...

Projekt, my DBack brother, I'd love to see it but that would make E Byrnes one of the most expensive players on the Marlins.

I don't think they're looking for a 5Mil answer to CF.

Jacques Jones for Dontrelle Willis.

:P

tmar:
True, but you never know. They had a "Firesale" and yet remained competitive last year (and should be even better off this year). I could see them paying a little bit extra for what could be the final piece of the puzzle.

Besides, the way the FA market is going, they couldn't get a Byrnes caliber player for any less than 10 million a year. If he was our CF I would be happy, but the fact that he is in LF makes him one of the worst offensive producers at that position.

25 homers and 25 stolen bases is poor offensive production?

Eh, his HR count won't be as high next year. His power is overrated... And SBs are nice and all, but Bob Melvin is a poor Manager for base running.

Also, If you look at Byrnes history, his all-out style of play gets to him as the season goes on. So, while his season numbers might look good, I have serious doubts that he would do any good in the post-season.

Eric Byrnes is really a very good fourth outfielder, that's not really a knock on him either, he should just be getting 300 PA on a good team.

I was shocked shocked shocked that the Cards didn't throw him at LF last year with Bigbie if they were going that route (throw some shit at a wall for no money and see what sticks). He'd be really useful this year, in a way that So Taguchi, er.. isn't.

PECOTA nailed it with him about 4 years ago.

"Rios would cost too much in trade and is in Arby already, and only had 1/2 of a good year in his career. He isnt worth moving a good pitcher for."

I beg to differ. When your field has one of the most spacious outfields in baseball, your OF defense sucks, and you have a good amount of young pitching, I think he is most definitely worth it. At the same time, as a met fan I wouldnt mind seeing Alfredo Amezaga out in CF again

"Jacques Jones for Dontrelle Willis.

:P"

Beeniez are u serious what a horrible proposal. Jacque Jonez and Cesar Izturis sounds more like it. ;)

Do you think they Marlins would be interested Jerry Hariston? Jerry was resigned by the Rangers for a 1 year minor league deal. Jerry can play all 3 outfield postions and 2nd base. He isnt the best hitter in the world but brings expierence, a good attitude, and a very decent glove.

The Rangers have recently brought in free agent Desi Relaford is working out for the Rangers as he attempts a comeback. Relaford, 33, was cut by the Orioles at the end of last spring and played in just 11 minor league games with the Cardinals. If signed by the Rangers, he'd compete with Jerry Hairston Jr., Ramon Vazquez and Matt Kata for a bench job.

It appears that Harriston could be had cheap. I imagine trading a bag of baseballs and one of ther ground crew and and a few pounds of fresh Mahi Mahi could get him.

Could this be a stopgap until one of thier youngsters come up?

The info about Desi Relaford came from teh Dallas Morning News

Shannon Stewart is poor. He can't play center field at all, how could any logical person even consider this? Jeromy Burnitz can play center better than Stewart. How foolish. Cough up some of the more overrated pitching talent for a good center field prospect as stating above, you're done.

Shannon Stewart is poor. He can't play center field at all, how could any logical person even consider this? Jeromy Burnitz can play center better than Stewart. How foolish. Cough up some of the more overrated pitching talent for a good center field prospect as stating above, you're done.

Posted by: DentalPlan | January 31, 2007 at 06:35 AM

They are waiting for spring training to see which one they wanna cough up and for whom. But really most of our minor league pitching talent is under-rated right now.

This is random, but anyone know when Mauer would hit FA if he isnt resigned?

Mauer has gotta have 4 years left or so.

"This is random, but anyone know when Mauer would hit FA if he isnt resigned?"

I think this is his first arbitration hearing, so after the 2009 season.

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