Red Sox Acquire Eric Gagne

If the pieces are Murphy and Gabbard I think this is a pretty fair trade

Murphy and Gabbard are garbage dude, don't kid yourself.

If its Murphy and Gabbard consider the Rangers fleeced. How can you get absolutely nothing in return?

YES!
Get the trophy with the flags on it and send it to boston!!!!!!!!!!

crap, they just won the world series.

Yanks have to counter, so the price of good relief help has just skyrocketed.

Gabbard isn't completely worthless but Murphy is, i just can't see what Texas was thinking if this was indeed the deal ( unless the thinking is to kill the Yankees on purpose )

When you can throw Paps, Gagne, Okijima, Delcarmen you got to have good feelings

murphy is one of the best outfield prospects in the minors?

"david murphy is one of the best outfield prospects in the minors"

I am laughing my ass off at this one. Yes, I'm bitter, but if you honestly think this, you should probably just find another sport to watch.

Original: "david murphy is one of the best outfield prospects in the minors"

Corrected: "david murphy is one of the best white outfield prospects currently at AAA in the minor league systems of American League East teams"

"who are you kidding....david murphy is one of the best outfield prospects in the minors and Gabbard is a young pitcher who has proved his major league value so far for an injury prone eighth inning guy at 3mil + incentives....it's by far a fair deal"

Shhhhh. You're embarassing the rest of us.

If it is Murphy and Gabbard, we're talking borderline collusion right here. The Yankees' offer was loads better, they must have rejected it out of principle. Ridiculous.

I wonder why Brandon Moss has never come up in talks. From my perspective, he is the better prospect, but is just as blocked as Murphy.

I don't believe Murphy will be more than a 4th outfielder. Moss I see as having a solid chance at being a solid regular. Plus he is younger. Just surprises me.

Gabbard is good. I was a skeptic at first, but I like his stuff. I would prefer the RS keep him in the rotation over Lester.

From a Red Sox fan:

Murphy is pretty worthless, he's about 26, is yet to break into the major leagues for more than a brief while.

Gabbard isn't a bad pickup though, he can be a solid #5 and potentially a good #4.

I would say that the Rangers definitely got the short end of the deal, but Gabbard isn't all too bad of a pickup.

At least the Yankees package was 5 star garbage, not hole in the wall garbage like Murphy and Gabbard.

Shhhh. Now you're embarassing yourself.

"hahaha...Listen to yourself. Do you think GMs do anything out of principle?"

Absolutely. You don't? Need I point you to the Schilling trade? Stuff like this has happened in the past. I'm not saying this is another example, but our league isn't totally ideal and perfect.

Our yankess crap prospects are way better than the Red Sox crap prospects...

The rivalry has reached a new low.

Hell yeah I'll be mad if they traded Gagne and got back Murphy and Gabbard. If your team did that crap you'd be mad too. And as far as Gagne's worth is concerned..................................................
Scott Linebrink.

Yes, I believe 100% that Hicks and Colangelo have grudges against the Yankees and will take a lesser package to spite them.

DoctorCurveBall - I agree 100% with your analysis. Congratulations on getting Gagne.

"who are you kidding....david murphy is one of the best outfield prospects in the minors and Gabbard is a young pitcher who has proved his major league value so far for an injury prone eighth inning guy at 3mil + incentives....it's by far a fair deal"

Hilarious, Red Sox fans got even more delusional than Yankee fans in less than one season?

David Murphy is 26, he can hit for ok average and will take a walk once in a while, but what else does he offer really? power? clearly below average even by CF standards. speed? he's not a statue on the bases but not nearly close to a base stealing threat. defense ? with the lack of power AND speed, he better have 8 hands and cover all 3 outfield.

Jason Gabbard had a pretty good season so far. but what else does he have? he's 25, he's periphals in the minors is decent not great and poor in the majors, he's not a true groundball pitcher. his major league result so far screams "first time around" he's going to be a alright pitcher, but 4th/5th guy at best.

So in those two the Rangers get a 4th OF with little upside and a possible 4th/5th guy if he could survive Arlinton? how does that make sense? espically compare to the deals we've heard?

BP's projections for Murphy are an OPB around .300 and a SLG below .400. No speed either. Crap. He's what Jay Payton will become in 5 years.

"At least the Yankees package was 5 star garbage, not hole in the wall garbage like Murphy and Gabbard."

Gabbard in the 41 Major League innings:
4-0 3.73 ERA 1.12 WHIP

Not saying he is a stud, but has anyone in the Yankees offer done anything comparable to that?

Clippard, DeSalvo or Karstens? Each a better offer that Gabbard? LOL, what are you Yankee wannabees smoking. They each had their opportunity and they each failed miserably.

I don't blame Texas at all for wanting to distance itself from NY's "farm system"

"Our yankess crap prospects are way better than the Red Sox crap prospects...

The rivalry has reached a new low."

Absolutely hilarious and true.

The rangers wanted a borderline mlb ready pitcher. I guess gabbard was the best they could do. Lets not get crazy about gagne's value though. 33 good innings in two different stretches of the season does not make up for two years of ... withdrawal ... uh ... I mean injuries.

All of which are at least 3 years younger than Gabbard.

"Gabbard is so good why is he in every freaking rumor for the Red Sox acquiring somebody? He's not."

Well Dice-K, Beckett, Schilling, Wakefield, Lester, Buchholz. Thats why he is every freaking rumor. This deal is just as comparable to the Linebrink deal, stop freaking out.

how old is gagne?

Is this a sign that Papelbon will start?

no

"According to a friend, WEEI is saying its Dye for Wily Mo, Murphy, and Hansen"

I'd say its a good idea to just disregard EEI until they are quoting someone more credible.

Yankees were offering Clippard (better projections that Gabbard, and don't give me any crap about 40 innings. If Clippard had a .224 BABIP his ERA would be 3.75 also), AS WELL AS Marquez (by far the highest upside of them all, former #1 pick), and ANOTHER prospect, probably one comparable to Murphy.

If you think that offer doesn't top Boston's, you're just so much of a fool it's unbelievable.

"At least the Yankees package was 5 star garbage"

And the oxymorons begin...

A dose of common sense to yankees fans. Conspiracy theories aside, why would the rangers go through the trouble of getting gagne and boras to ok a deal unless they clearly felt the red sox offer to be superior.

"A dose of common sense to yankees fans. Conspiracy theories aside, why would the rangers go through the trouble of getting gagne and boras to ok a deal unless they clearly felt the red sox offer to be superior."

Why? because they're the Texas Rangers.

Jayson Stark of ESPN just said the deal is for Murphy and Gabbard with a possibility of an third low level prospect.

Not to metion how well the other teams improve after Daniels makes a trade with them.

Jon Daniels, everbody's favorite GM except his own teams.

bobo,
Obviously you are confused as to what the words "they" and "felt" mean.

I never said it was smart although gabbard is still the best pitcher I have heard mentioned in this thread (not saying much) as offered for gagne.

Daniels def has a checkered past but he just scored a pretty nice deal for teixeira.

hahahahahahahahahaha

no one is scared of the yankee farm system

That was hilarious

"If it is Murphy and Gabbard, we're talking borderline collusion right here. The Yankees' offer was loads better, they must have rejected it out of principle. Ridiculous. "

Yes, because you are privy to information the rest of us arent? Yankee fans byhtch and complain about everythig man. Every guy they dont get its some kinda freaking collusion or some conspiracy. Get over yourselves for real. You cant always get what you want.

Atlanta did give up to much for Teixeira ... Which is throwing off your perspective on what Gagne is worth

Engel Beltre added to Sox/Gagne deal.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7078822

The Red Sox are on the verge of acquiring closer Eric Gagne, but their talks with the White Sox involving right fielder Jermaine Dye seemingly are dead, according to a major-league source.

The two teams apparently could not come to an agreement on players. Dye never was formally approached for his permission to approve a deal.

It is still possible that Dye could be traded before the non-waiver deadline at 4 p.m. ET. The Cubs, Diamondbacks and Angels could be possibilities.

"Would trade Eric Gagne for David Murphy and Kason Gabbard??"

Depends on what the next best offer was. If it was that Junk the Yankees offered, then yes.

Also, the Rangers could have considered resigning him, but with Boras around, thats no sure thing.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7078822

The Red Sox are on the verge of acquiring closer Eric Gagne, but their talks with the White Sox involving right fielder Jermaine Dye seemingly are dead, according to a major-league source.

The two teams apparently could not come to an agreement on players. Dye never was formally approached for his permission to approve a deal.

It is still possible that Dye could be traded before the non-waiver deadline at 4 p.m. ET. The Cubs, Diamondbacks and Angels could be possibilities.

So enlighten me Val....

How much is a .285/380/540, 35Hr 115RBI a year, 507 games started in a row, 2 Golden Gloves, 27 year old worth?

If the Yankees offered me any of their recent callups for Gagne I would have asked them to toss in Arod. That's how much they sucked.

Amen