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Rosenthal's Latest: A-Rod, Glaus, Cordero

Ken Rosenthal's work is a must for any rumor junkie.  Here are some highlights from his latest column.

  • Rosenthal gives his take on possible A-Rod destinations, discussing the Mets, Tigers, and Dodgers in depth.  He tosses out an idea I hadn't seen before - moving David Wright to left field and declining Moises Alou's option.  MetsBlog discusses Scott Boras' sales pitch to the Mets. 
  • The Cards want to hire Chris Antonetti, but the Indians don't want to let him go.  Rosenthal says they may have to pay him GM money and/or promise him the post in the future.
  • Rosenthal has a new I hadn't mentioned for the Yankees' third base vacancy, though I believe several commenters did.  That name is Troy Glaus, about whom the Yanks inquired last summer.  There are complications aplenty with Glaus: foot problems, $12.75MM owed to him in '08 and an $11.25MM player option for '09, a full no-trade clause, and a steroid connection.  Sounds like Jason Giambi Part II.
  • Francisco Cordero would be priced out of the Brewers' range if he demands a four or five year deal worth $9-11MM annually.  I assume he will, though the Brewers could afford it.


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PLEASE JP DO ANYTHING TO GET RID OF GLAUS!!!

"There are complications aplenty with Glaus: foot problems, $12.75MM owed to him in '08 and an $11.25MM player option for '09..."

The money isn't a problem for the Yankees. It can be for the rest of the league but not the Yanks.

Glaus' value is at an all-time low. The Jays won't get enough for him. He had surgery and will be healthy, and the steroid allegations mean nothing but it still decreases his value.

If the Yankees offer Ian Kennedy or something then sure but Glaus is more valuable to keep.

Please JP don't get rid of Glaus for spoiled returns!

Seriously, his contract is good and compared to the FA alternatives, there's no point in unloading Glaus, steroid connections and foot problems withstanding.

Tell me, if the Jays trade Glaus to the Yanks, who plays 3b? Wilson Betemit? His value as a player next year, even in 120-130 games, will be more than the alternatives.

Kennedy and Betemit for Glaus?

That would make sense if we flipped AJ for a good offensive shortstop. But I don't see how it helps our offence... plus, what's the point in speculating, JP has said and it seems its going to be a very quiet offseason for us. He's looking at the utility situatoin. In my opinion, he should have been all over the Renteria deal - we definitely could have offered something similar in young pitchers or what not.

I have to say all this talk of A-Rod to the Mets is bull-s-h-i-t. 1) The Mets don't need offence, they need pitching. 2) SS and 3b are filled, and when you move any of those players away, it greatly decreases their value. 3) A-Rod most likely won't play in New York. So just because they have enough money and its NY doesn't mean it'll happen. There are much better fits, like Cubs or Angels.

i would love to get rid of Glaus and his contract, but i dont think i would want to send him to NY.
who would/could the Jays get in return?
id rather send Glaus to a team where they can get a good young 3B in return.. maybe dodgers for package including Andy LaRoche? or SD for a package around Kevin Kouzmanoff?

if they trade Glaus and dont recieve a good young 3B in return, they should first have another deal in place for a 3B so they arnt left chosing a FA between Pedro Feliz and Mike Lamb.
this years FA 3B is weak, and so is next years.. so i wouldnt want to count on signing a FA to replace Glaus in the future.

Wright's talent would be wasted in LF. Putting either ARod or Wright at 2B is the best plan. Add to that the fact that Alou's extension is cheap relative to free agent money, and that would be a really dumb move.

Antonetti will not be GM in St. Louis. 3pm press conference introducing interim GM John Mozeliak as new GM.

Ian Kennedy is a guy Cashman has labeled untouchable. Yeah, that term is always loose, but I doubt it will be broken for Troy Glaus. The Blue Jays will not get Ian Kennedy plus more for Troy Glaus. It'd be like us trying to trade Giambi for a promising pitching prospect(even if we ate the salary down to Glaus's amount). I think Ricciardi would take anything he could get at this point for the guy. Steroids allegations carry such a black cloud and most teams would rather avoid it.

"Kennedy and Betemit for Glaus?"

I'd flip if they offered us that. It really solidifies the rotation and gives us a 3B replacement. Cashman is smarter than that though.

And unless the Mets plan to skyrocket their payroll, I hope they're comfortable with the pitching staff they have now if they go after A-Rod.

I agree with you mostly johnflaherty. Kennedy isn't going anywhere. Glaus has far more value than Giambi though because he plays solid 3B. Giambi can barely play first.

Fair point.

Gah, Boras is a slimeball... in the Mets Blog artice, he tries to argue that because A-Rod "pays for himself," he comes "for free." Okay sure... A-Rod will being an additional $30mm of revenue annually to your team...

I dont understand this A-rod to the Tigers stuff. Don't get me wrong I'd love to get an upgrade over Inge. But really, are the Tigers really a team you think would pay a player 30 million a year? I dont

Ian Kennedy untouchable?? AHHHH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.

"Kennedy and Betemit for Glaus?"

Again, all I need to do is come here and get all the laughs I need for the day.


Perhaps something like Glaus and Toronto's 10th best prospect for NY's 30th best prospect?

(yes, Glaus has negative trade value. If Toronto could give him away for free, they should.)

A world series MVP, who is locked up on a reasonable deal, who was an all-star in 2006 and had an injury plagued 2007 does not have negative trade value.

He is also only 31 and had successful surgery so he will be 100% going into 08. I forgot to add that.

Oh I love the A-Rod haters in Boston and New York!!!

Bring him and his 13.7 WARP3 to Chicago, baby!!!

I must be blind, Grant77, because I swear I see you citing him being World Series MVP 5 years ago as evidence for why he's valuable, and expecting to be taken seriously on this blog.

If you really didn't mean to write that, I'll give you a chance to take it back.


I quote Tim:

There are complications aplenty with Glaus: foot problems, $12.75MM owed to him in '08 and an $11.25MM player option for '09, a full no-trade clause, and a steroid connection. Sounds like Jason Giambi Part II.

some seem to think Glaus is an aging veteran over the hill. as mentioned he is onyl 31 years old, and if hes fully healthy hes capable of hitting 35+HR 100+RBI

as a Jays fan id like to move Glaus to free up salary and use him to acquire a good young 3B for the future. if the Jays wait and wait until Glaus leaves a free agent, theres not much left in 3B free agents and they will have to trade someone else to bring in someone for 3B.

Ok. So IF Glaus was guaranteed to return to 2006 form and put up the same numbers, he'd be worth just about what his contract is paying him over the next 2 years.

#1 - there's no guarantee of that

#2 - aside from last year's injury he has a history of shoulder problems (in his throwing shoulder, no less)

#3 - there are steroid questions.


I would think that those 3 factors push him safely into "negative value" territory.

"I have to say all this talk of A-Rod to the Mets is bull-s-h-i-t. 1) The Mets don't need offence, they need pitching."

I am sort of tired with people unfamiliar with the Mets situation coming out and saying the Mets dont need offense, they need starting pitching. Well people, you couldnt be more wrong. They can use a starting pitcher, just like every team. It is not their biggest need IMO. The bullpen is a whole different story, but the bullpen can be fixed relatively cheaply and shouldnt have even a remote effect if they want to purseu A-Rod. Oliver Perez, Tom Glavine, John Maine, Orlando Hernandez. For the most part, those guys were very solid the entire season. Same with the bullpen.

People look at the Mets lineup, see the names and assume the offense is fine.
Delgado was just awful last year. No other word to describe it. Reyes was horrible. All season. Dont let his first half numbers fool you, he wasnt good. He was drawing walks, but hitting just singles, nothing in the gap, hardly any really hart hit balls. David Wright took the first 6 weeks of the season off. Aloui missed like half the season. Beltran was Beltran. When he had big protection in the lineup, he hit, when he was the main threat on offense, he was brutal. Beltran came back from an injury in early august, with a line something like .250/16/54 and finished the year on a tear. The point is, the offense wasnt good. Really not at all. The bullpen takes all of the heat for the whole september meltdown, but the bullpen was solid all year until that point, and the offense had let the team down all year, to that point. A-Rod, for one, would make Beltran so much better. With A-rod in the lineup Carlos would not get much attention from outsiders, all the talk would be on somebody else, just how Beltran likes.
My main point is, the Mets need to replace Tom Glavine in the rotation, and they need to fix the pen. They can find Glavines 190 innings and 4.15 era in Aaron Heilman I think. Maybe not completely duplicating Glavines numbers, but I think he can be close to them.

Pedro Martinez, Carlos Delgado, Moises Alou all come off the books next year. That about covers A-rods salary if they want to make a move for him. Believe me, as a Met fan, given a choice between Johan Santana and A-Rod for this team, I am taking A-Rod in a heartbeat.

I agree that the Mets could go for ARod, but I don't think that ARod would go to the Mets. I think he doesn't want to play in NY at all - if you think about it logically that's the only explanation for his early opt-out (unless you think there's a specific thing about the Yankees that turned him off, but I think all reasons would apply equally to the Mets).

Anyway, I agree with most of what you said, but Reyes' first half WAS good. If he's got a 400 OBP and doesn't hit a single extra base hit the entire season, you should be happy with that. I think the Mets would take that in a second.

The Mets are ok, but they need a lot of help - in the rotation, in the pen. Some more offense can't hurt but it's not the glaring need.

Of course, in theory, getting ARod makes the need for pitching that much less. Runs are runs.


nrmax88 - serious question: would you rather have Santana at 6 years for $25M per, or ARod for 8 or 9 years at $32M per?

"Anyway, I agree with most of what you said, but Reyes' first half WAS good. If he's got a 400 OBP and doesn't hit a single extra base hit the entire season, you should be happy with that. I think the Mets would take that in a second."

Okay, fair enough. Maybe his continued work on developing his patience at the plate had something to do with him not hitting the ball like he did in 2006. Fair point though, I would take a 400 OBP from Reyes even if it was from all walks.

About Santana and A-Rod, I dont know it is a good question. It certainly would change things if Santana were out on the open market. I would have to think about that question for a little bit. I guess there are pro's and con's for both.

"2) SS and 3b are filled, and when you move any of those players away, it greatly decreases their value."

Hmm. How does taking David Wrights bat, which is elite for 3B, and putting it at 2B, a much weaker position for hitters, decrease his value? Are you scared his fielding will plummet? He wasnt a great fielder at third but still had tremendous value. Maybe you think moving his bat to first base, his .300/.400/.500 lines every year, with 30 home runs and 30 stolen bases is somehow not valuable at that position. If you do think that, it is your perogative, but I have to disagree.

Ian Kennedy is seen as a mediocre starter - he's not untouchable.

And even if you think a player has decreased value, remember the fact that if there's no one on the market, and you need a replacement badly, then you'd be willing to pay up.

especially if you're the yankees in a state of chaos right now led by a new head case steinbrenner

Regardless about how we feel about Ian Kennedy, what matters is how Brian Cashman feels. He would not part with Kennedy for Gagne at the deadline and has basically said he is untouchable. Whether or not he is is another story, but it does show that the Yankees would not part with him unless they felt they were getting premium in return. I don't think a promising potential #3 starter should be traded for an oft-injured third baseman with a history of steroids and I doubt Cashman does either.

Brian Cashman is smart enough to know that he can get production that is more reliable than, and possibly better than that of Glaus for a fraction of the price.

The are TONS of 3B options on the market.

I say deal Overbay's contract and just move Glaus to 1B.

'The are TONS of 3B options on the market.'

There are almost no good options for 3B on the market. Not even the trade market.

Just a random thought - why shift Wright at all? Shoot for the moon. send reyes/ milledge/pelfry to Minn for Santana. Sign Arod. Pedro/Santana/Maine ( not in that order) should be good enough with that offense. Beltran/Wright/Arod/Delgado nice 2-5.

Yeah, we'll send 5 cheap years of Reyes to the Twins for Santana and the 25 mil a year it is going to cost to lock him up. Will never happen. Then to add in Milledge/ Pelfrey is just comical.

How does Eric Chavez play into the trade market ??? If healthy would he be more valuable then Glaus ?

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