Jake Peavy For Phil Hughes and Melky Cabrera?

no, jake is worth alot more then that, hes going to get some Santana money down the road, thats his real worth. The time of paying this kid pennies is almost over. I dont know why the Padres would want those two out of a pretty talent rich yankee team and give up one of the best pitchers running on the worlds cheapest salary

No its not a fair trade
Towers probably laughed his ass off when he heard this deal. I guess to Olney that means there's a possibility that it'll happen

That would be an interesting trade, just to see what happened. Hughes is a bona fide ace potential, and would probably excel in the NL, especially in Petco. But Peavy might have a bit of trouble adjusting to the AL. Peavy is about 5 years older... Hmm.

I think it would be relatively fair in terms of value, but the results might not be what the Yankees expected.

I think the Pads could get more than that. Maybe Hughes and Cano...I think thats more realistic. I think thats about his value.

KT is a smart guy, Peavy is a great pitcher. KT should think about winning a World Series next year while he still has him. Why don't the Padres go after the Moose? Then they would have the Mad dog and the Moose.

Going back to the Buck Showalter days, I can't remember a single instance of the Yankees acquiring an NL starter and then getting anything close to the performance they expected.

Without Peavy's 2006 season, I'd probably hesitantly be ok with the idea, but him being just one year removed from that seems like you're asking for trouble moving him from the NL to the AL East.

As to the poster who said "I dont know why the Padres would want those two out of a pretty talent rich yankee team", the only young player on the Yankees you could possibly rate higher than Hughes is Joba, but the two are very close.

I agree with zubes here, the difference between Peavy and Santana is small. Santana has the reputation of being the best pitcher in baseball, but peavy would rival the wins shares he brings to a team. This package seems short sided in this market

There's a disturbing trend, now that fans are starting to understand the value of prospects, to overvalue them irrationally.

Peavy has thrown more than 200 innings in each of the last three seasons. He has also posted a K/9 rate over 9. Hughes has shown signs of being a gem at every minor league stop, but he gave as much cause for concern as he did for optimism in his stint last year. Jake Peavy is now what the Yankees pray Hughes can someday be. He will also be just 27 next year, and has shown that he is durable and effective.

It's also interesting how people parrot the "Peavey can't win a big game" mantra since it became such a hot phrase after the one-game regular season playoff game this season. Peavy has only pitched in two postseason games otherwise. By that logic, Wang should be off the Yankees roster and on a flight to Taiwan.

As for Melky Cabrera, until he puts up an OPS over .780 for more than 200 at-bats, he is still just a player with some upside as a premium position. He is not a blue chip, and any suggestion to the contrary is just an organizational attempt to drive up his value -- much in the way that Cashman keeps listing Kennedy as one of the "Big Three" alongside Joba and Hughes.

A discussion might start with Hughes and Melky, but it certainly doesn't end there.

I like Peavy but Hughes is too much to give up. He is very young and can dominate at times already. I would like to trade for an ace but they need to sure up 3B, 1B, C, the outfield and the closer role first. If Damon plays left and they trade Melky as expected who plays center next season.

I am hoping the Yanks have a plan because trading two starting young prospects isnt a wise decision.

Um... Hughes isn't too much to give up here.

I'm a Yankees fan and if this were on the table, I'd say yes in a heartbeat.

Trading a league avg CF and a possible ace for Peavy? Who doesn't do that?

That being said, I'd try to get Hughes omitted from the deal.

Sub in Joba maybe. Or do something like... Melky/Kennedy/Tabata.

Hughes is pretty damn good.

All that being said. The Yanks really should focus on getting some young bats. Move Jeter to 3B and get young at 1B, SS and C. OF help should be coming with Tabata/Gardner/Jackson in the minors. One of them should pan out.

bjsguess:

Not arguing here, but I think Hughes' most likely comparables are Peavy/Penny.

I remember reading that somewhere, but the spot escapes me right now.

That said I'd so that trade, even though I think Hughes is going to be big.

Dunkin,

If we trade Hughes and Melky and sign some B rated players to fill our 3B, 1B, middle relief and outfield pressing needs expecting we sign Posada and Rivera), we will have become the Minnesota Twins.

I am not against trading for Peavy but trading two prospects without addressing those needs will not get you in the playoffs.

Now if Rolen were healthy the Yanks can get him for near nothing given we eat his contract and if we
sign Hunter in center than I would make a deal for Peavy since we would replaced the two starters we gave up. Those are big ifs.

Getting Peavy gets you a talented ace but baseball isnt a one man sport and he doesnt turn you into an instant contender.

I have seen Tabata play why would you trade a 20 year old stud who will be in the majors next summer/fall.

If a Cubs fan said the same thing that some of the Yankee fans are saying here there'd be 50 posts about how stupid they are.

Peavy is arguably the best pitcher in the NL, at a young age. Any team should jump at the chance to get him.

Hughes, Cano and Cabrera would continue the discussion. But even at that price I still don't like trading superior talent for a lot of marginal to slightly above average talent and prospective goodness.

A better Cabrera to look at would be Miguel. He'd be an obvious upgrade over Kouzmanoff, but the Friars have quite a few OFers and Ensberg backing up 3rd. So what about Peavy/Kouzmanoff
for Cabrera/Willis.

Seems like maybe not enough from the Friars, and the Fish would be trading arb. players for Arb. players. But I still think it's better than the Yankees deal...yankees need a 3rd baseman more than they need the pitching.

Padres need bats anyway, they can plug in underwhelming flyball pitchers in that park and still get decent results. Peavy would need to bring an impact young bat, as well as maybe a few second tier arms. Tampa could match up, but that ain't happening. Maybe the Angels

"I have seen Tabata play why would you trade a 20 year old stud who will be in the majors next summer/fall. "

That's not going to happen.

I think in order for Peavy to go to the Yankees, it would have to be a 3 way trade. Here's one that would be cool.. I think it's pretty fair, fills holes, and follows management styles.

Padres get:
Grady Sizemore (CLE)
Phil Hughes (NYY)
Ross Ohdenhorf (NYY)

Yankees get:
Jake Peavy (SD)
Victor Martinez (CLE)

Indians get:
Joba Chamberlain (NYY)
Brian Giles (SD)
Melky Cabrera (NYY)

The Padres do this to get a possible #2, an inexpensive all-star CF,and a #4 or 5 starter.

The Yankees get the best pitcher in baseball, and the best offensive catcher for parts that played little role in this season

The Indians can replace Sizemore with Melky, but also gain a solid corner OF with high OBP. Plus, they could have a rotation with Sabathia, Carmona, and Joba.

the way trade rumors degrade into the most random bad ideas is amazing to me. the Indians give Sizemore and VMart for Joba and Melky and an over the hill outfielder? that would be awesome for the Padres and the Yankees but sounds really stupid for the Indians

Look, I realize this would never happen, I just put it together off the top of my head bored in class. I also doubt that the Indians would be really hesitant to break up a team only 1 win away from the world series.

My main point is that a Yankees Padres trade would never work without a third team. There are plenty of teams out there interested in the Yankees pitching prospects should the Yankee decide to pursue Peavy.

Okay, this site got to stop posting trade rumors with Hughes, Melky, Chamberlin, Kennedy, Cano, etc. These trades arent happening.

Who would the Astros have available to swing a deal for Peavy? Berkman could be part of that deal. I'mnot positive but I believe Peavy has stated a preference for Houston in the past.

Does it make sense that when one talks about trades for Johan are talked about an entire farm system is involved

But with Jake Peavy (as good or better) Hughes and Melky are all that is throw out there

Scouts have been concerned for a long time about Peavy's mechanics.

I'd be surprised to see a team dish out verymuch young talent for either Peavy or Santana. Whoever would get either would be getting them on the back slope of their career and then have to worry about having another Mike Mussina on their hands