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By Tim Dierkes [December 12, 2007 at 11:48pm CST]
Tim's out for the night, so we've got a fresh post started for the non-tenders. MLB.com has a running list as well.
These guys are the officials as of now:
- As expected, the Marlins non-tendered catcher Miguel Olivo. Johnny Estrada was another casualty; these two make up the market for starting catchers.
- The Blue Jays non-tendered Josh Towers, a surprising move. Some NL team could offer him two years and get league average work out of him.
- Mark Prior has been non-tendered. Honestly if I were the Cubs, I would've tossed the $3.5MM his way just to see.
- Aaron Miles is now a free agent.
- The A's cut Kiko Calero loose.
- The Padres have non-tendered four: Morgan Ensberg, Jason Lane, and pitchers Jack Cassell and Ryan Ketchner. RotoWorld speculates that the latter two, not arbitration eligible, could be offered minor league deals.
- The Royals cut the cord on Emil Brown. He turns 33 soon; he hit an ugly .257/.300/.347 in 2007. Brown earned $3.45MM in '07.
- The Tigers non-tendered Chad Durbin, toss him into the free agent pool. Guess those trade talks with the Bucs didn't work out.
- The Twins have let go Jason Tyner.
- The Nats have cut bait with Nook Logan and LHP Michael O'Connor.
- The Dodgers wave goodbye to Mark Hendrickson.
- The White Sox have non-tendered Andy Gonzalez and LHP Heath Phillips. Joe Crede sticks with the Pale Hose for now.
- Adam Everett has lost his job with the Astros. It'd be kind of funny if the Orioles signed him.
- Per RotoWorld, the Angels have non-tendered Dallas McPherson. He's full of potential, but he's never come through. He's only 27, though, so he could still catch on somewhere. Unless, RotoWorld notes, he has an agreement in place with the Angels.
- The Braves have non-tendered Willie Harris, though he had already been DFA'd.
-Joe and Tim
Don't forget to take that survey before you go golfing , Surveyman.
Can do , chief!
Posted by: OaklandAussie | December 12, 2007 at 05:29 PM
You can add Nook Logan and Michael O'Connor, per rotoworld.
Posted by: plh903 | December 12, 2007 at 06:44 PM
Mark Hendrickson.
Posted by: lih | December 12, 2007 at 06:49 PM
Well, apparently I was right, Adam Everett will more likely than not be non-tendered:
"Wade informed former starting shortstop Adam Everett that, barring some unforeseen move, he will not be tendered a contract. Therefore, Everett will become a free agent."
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5372325.html
This SUCKS. We had the next Ozzie Smith (minus the stolen bases) and just let him go. Yeah, his offense isn't helping out any, but his defense makes up for that...
Posted by: jatorres | December 12, 2007 at 06:56 PM
Add Dallas McPherson.
I'm real confused by this move.
Posted by: 101halo | December 12, 2007 at 07:12 PM
lol, where are all the Angels fans saying D-Mac was the third basemen of now and the future?
Good riddance Andy, as for Heath, I hope you get a real shot somewhere else.
And it pisses me off that an elite defender like Everett simply gets nontendered. The 'Stros should have traded Wiggington if they planned on trading for Tejada and put him at third. Then again, the 'Stros do a lot of things wrong.
Posted by: gogopalehose | December 12, 2007 at 07:43 PM
The Astros did not make much sense on the whole Tejada trade, thus Everett departure. If they were going to cut him loose, they could have done other things and save an already weak farm system.
I would guess the Cubs will let Prior walk, too. That might be a last minute decision.
Posted by: Oh Boy | December 12, 2007 at 07:51 PM
I wonder what will come of Teixeira in Atlanta. Obviously they were going to hold onto him right now, but I don't know if Atl. can manage to keep him in the future. Where's Ted Turner and his check book when we need him most?!
Posted by: amishius | December 12, 2007 at 08:04 PM
Giants should be calling McPherson NOW!!!
Posted by: zito4cyyoung | December 12, 2007 at 08:10 PM
thats if the twins dont get a hold of mcpherson first, he would fit with twins well
Posted by: patsfanatic83 | December 12, 2007 at 08:14 PM
Maybe Hendrickson could play basketball again.
Posted by: yankfan1 | December 12, 2007 at 08:32 PM
If the Cubs go with Theriot at SS next season, I'd just assume they sign Everett and have him start everyday. That pretty much goes for any team going into 2008 with a no-hit SS. Adam Everett is, flat out, the best defensive player in baseball at any position.
Posted by: Teetz | December 12, 2007 at 08:35 PM
likewise with the rangers, they will be VERY interested in mcpherson, they've tried to trade for him a couple of times
Posted by: txrangers22 | December 12, 2007 at 08:35 PM
with McPherson's history of back spasms, he'd likely be a better 1B candidate i'd think.
Posted by: bobhamelin | December 12, 2007 at 08:38 PM
McPherson needed to go.. maybe the Angels are trying to clear some room for a 3B that can actually stay on the field for more than 50 games.
Posted by: bseballcrzy17 | December 12, 2007 at 08:44 PM
i cou ld see the twins makign arun at everett as well
Posted by: patsfanatic83 | December 12, 2007 at 08:50 PM
i cou ld see the twins makign arun at everett as well
Posted by: patsfanatic83 | December 12, 2007 at 08:50 PM
Padres non-tenders:
Ensberg, Cassel, and Lane.
Posted by: OkiPadres | December 12, 2007 at 08:54 PM
Prior officially non-tendered per WGN radio.
Posted by: cubs0110 | December 12, 2007 at 08:58 PM
I guess I have roughly three hours to get rid of my Cubs Authentic Alternate Blue Mark Prior jersey... any takers? Anyway, he's worth a shot at $3.5 million.
Posted by: thenockmlb | December 12, 2007 at 08:59 PM
man, hope my Royals nab MacPherson and Prior quick.
Posted by: bobhamelin | December 12, 2007 at 09:01 PM
the rangers will be in on prior as well
Posted by: txrangers22 | December 12, 2007 at 09:02 PM
With the Rolen/TLR situation being as tense as it is, I wish the Cards would get ahold of McPherson's agent. And Prior too while we are at it. He would make a nice cheap pickup that could be well worth the investment if he rehabs and comes back strong ala Carp when we got him from the Jays.
Posted by: ozziethesaint | December 12, 2007 at 09:11 PM
What about McPherson to the Marlins? They need a 3B since Miguel is gone and he still has great potential. He goes into a no pressure situation and can just go out and play ball and maybe live up to his potential.
Posted by: Barroid_Bonds | December 12, 2007 at 09:12 PM
Florida would be a good place to re-establish his value, I guess. It'd also be a good place to vanish if he can't play. Probably a decent option for Dallas, though.
Posted by: CarpeDiem | December 12, 2007 at 09:25 PM
anyone think Prior is worth $3.5 million as a potential setup man for the Yanks. Nah, I've lost my mind.
Posted by: finite24 | December 12, 2007 at 09:27 PM
Didn't hear this myself, but someone told me Dave Kaplan on WGN radio announced the Cubs non-tendered Prior. 1st bad move of the offseason for Hendry. It seems he let personal feelings get in the way and it sucks.
Posted by: Teetz | December 12, 2007 at 09:28 PM
Anybody catch Bochy's dream lineup with Winn, Molina, and Rowand batting 3,4,5. Yikes.
I'm betting Rowand's going to drop well off without the protection in the lineup he's had in Chicago and Philly.
Interesting comment by Beane about liking to do big deals around the bowl games and NFL playoffs so everyone "forgets".
All that was on cbssportsline by the way.
Posted by: bweav44 | December 12, 2007 at 09:32 PM
thank the lord we got Fukudome. It helps pad the Prior mess. Oh what could have been!
Posted by: TrueCubsFan | December 12, 2007 at 09:35 PM
I am having a hard time figuring out all the excitement over the Fukudome signing while bashing the Astros over the Matsui signing. Regardless of how experts project Fukudome, most of his Japanese stats pale in comparison to Matsui's. At least Matsui is a proven .270 hitter with speed and some power who can switch hit. He plays 2nd base; he doesn't have to be a bomber, just a consistent contributor to the lineup. I will predict that he out performs the Cubs' newly acquired and very expensive right fielder.
Posted by: bluemustangpride | December 12, 2007 at 09:44 PM
what's going on with Mike Sweeney?...isn't he a free agent and why have i not heard anything about him this offseason? He'd be a good DH for Oakland or even the twins.
Posted by: smalseed17 | December 12, 2007 at 09:47 PM
"A proven .270 hitter" rofl
Matsui is garbage.
Posted by: Game555 | December 12, 2007 at 09:48 PM
Garbage or not, 4 seasons in the majors with a .272 average. Let the numbers do the talking, instead of your weak opinion.
Posted by: bluemustangpride | December 12, 2007 at 09:56 PM
LOL bluemustangpride, that's cute.
On the face of things, you are correct. Kazuo Matsui outstole and hit just as many if not more HRs than Fukudome. Their averages are even comparable. Luckily for Cub fans, this isn't Fantasy Baseball. The key difference between Fukudome and Matsui is patience. Fukudome's OBP was almost .070 points higher than Matsui's in their last three years before coming to the MLB. Fukudome's BB/K ratio was about 3/4 while Matsui's was 1/2 or worse.
This is the exact reason why Craig Brazell is going over to Japan next year instead of trying to cut it with a major league team. He isn't a patient hitter, but you can get away with that in Japan because the parks are smaller and the pitchers aren't as good. You can hack away in Japan and survive. Try and be a hacker in the MLB and you end up, well, like Kazuo Matsui.
Posted by: TrueCubsFan | December 12, 2007 at 09:59 PM
Check both of their Japanese stats for yourself, then talk about who got the best player for their money.
http://japaneseballplayers.com/en/player.php?id=kmatsui
Posted by: bluemustangpride | December 12, 2007 at 10:01 PM
We didn't pay $50,000,000 for a corner outfielder. We paid for a middle infielder, who is expected to steal bases, bunt, and go from 1st to 3rd on a base hit, then make the routine plays. I am a huge Biggio fan, but based on his stats the past four years and his defense, Matsui is a statistical upgrade. Competitive spirit and clubhouse leadership will not measure up to Biggio, but statistically, he will be an improvement.
Posted by: bluemustangpride | December 12, 2007 at 10:06 PM
blue,
The "bashing" of Matsui comes from the knowledge that 1/2 his games won't be in Coors Field this year - his away OPS last year was .637 which was the 2nd worst in the national league (vizquel).
Posted by: cubz23 | December 12, 2007 at 10:08 PM
Yes, I already did and I explained to you what the stats really mean.
Also, there's this wonderful little thing that helps teams win games called defense. Matsui can't play it, Fukudome can. It's only 50% of the game.
Posted by: TrueCubsFan | December 12, 2007 at 10:08 PM
Yeah, I knew you had checked. I posted my response to the previous person, and saw your post after it refreshed. You do have to agree that in these later years, Biggio has not exactly been a defensive asset, either. We get to upgrade the statistical aspects of the position at a cheaper price. That can't be bad.
Posted by: bluemustangpride | December 12, 2007 at 10:11 PM
Non-tendering Prior really saddens me. It is a tragedy, considering how high expectations were for him.
The only thing I can guess is his name is in the Mitchell report.
Posted by: cedarpip | December 12, 2007 at 10:14 PM
cubz23,
The things he will be asked to do by the Astros and playing half of his games at Minute Maid will help his offensive game. Again, I believe he is a comparable upgrade statistically to the player that has held that position for the past few years.
Posted by: bluemustangpride | December 12, 2007 at 10:15 PM
What about the Phils going after McPherson or Prior. They need a 3rd and pitcher and despite what some commenters on this site think, they arent cheap
Posted by: phillyfreak99 | December 12, 2007 at 10:20 PM
cedarpip,
It saddens me too until I think of the chance that the Astros would have to sign him. I am as die-hard as you Cub guys, so I enjoy the verbal jostling.
Posted by: bluemustangpride | December 12, 2007 at 10:20 PM
Prior to the Yanks as Mr. 8th inning!!!
Posted by: maximumpotential | December 12, 2007 at 10:22 PM
I agree 100% with the sentiment that hard feelings, not an objective approach, led to the non-tendering of Prior. If you're any of the 29 other teams isn't he exactly the type of high reward player you're hoping becomes available.
Posted by: icantbelieveitsnotbittner | December 12, 2007 at 10:26 PM
Would Kevin Mench be a better bat for LF than Reed Johnson? I don't trust Reed. He's just not that good a bat.
Posted by: Guitar Hero | December 12, 2007 at 10:30 PM
Do the Phillies like guys who won't play until at least July?
Posted by: TrueCubsFan | December 12, 2007 at 10:30 PM
Blue, the problem there is that he has not been any better (and you could argue worse) than the guy he replaced (Burke) and he will cost 10 times as much this year.
That being said, he is a great baserunner - if he can just get on base 35% of the time this year he should thrive in front of Berkman/Lee/Tejada/Pence
Posted by: cubz23 | December 12, 2007 at 10:33 PM
Yes they do, that is why they had Garcia and Lieber last year. And like icantbelieveitsnotbittner said Prior could be a great lower risk/ high reward player.
Posted by: phillyfreak99 | December 12, 2007 at 10:36 PM
I think its a given that Prior will be a Padre.
Posted by: thenockmlb | December 12, 2007 at 10:42 PM
Apparently the Padres looked at Prior's medical records and doesn't want to risk a contract for him either. From Rotoworld:
"It's possible he'll join the Padres, who attempted to trade for him earlier this month, but it's been reported that they've soured on him after getting a look at his medical records. Large-market teams like the Yankees, Red Sox and Mets could place bids."
Posted by: Teetz | December 12, 2007 at 10:51 PM
Ensberg could be a nice addition for the Brewers, finally pushing Braun to LF. He should be fairly cheap, and any sort of bounce back in terms of OBP and some solid defense at 3B would be exactly what Doug Melvin is looking for.
Posted by: bretsky07 | December 12, 2007 at 10:52 PM
To the guy who keeps talking about Matsui and his .270 average....
You do realize that .270 is shi*....right? The average for all baseball players last year was .268....that means every player in the league, guys like Adam Everett and Neifi Perez are in that average...pitchers are in that average...if Matsui is only 2 points above the whole average, where do you think he ranks among STARTING players....CRAP. Kaz is not good and hitting .270 jusy means that your below average but not god aweful...lol you do entertain me though with your .270 argument it makes these boards fun and not boring.
Posted by: CubsFan1654 | December 12, 2007 at 10:56 PM
The Mets seem a good fit for Prior....I mean so did this Cubs but now that it's not happening it makes sense for a team as desperate as the Mets for pitching would take a small risk, high reward potential in Prior, hoping to catch lightning in a bottle.
Posted by: CubsFan1654 | December 12, 2007 at 10:58 PM
Let's not bash Hendry too much on Prior. The Cubs wanted '09 at a club option so if he comes back in June or July and does well, they have some leverage on the 3.5 mil. Prior would not do that. Give him 3.5 for a couple months of service in '08, assuming he is healthy, then he walks in '09. Not good business sense. I think the Cubs paid him a 10 mil. bonus when they drafted him, plus the millions for the last few years being injured. If he wanted to show a trace of loyalty, he could of given in for the '09 option, then make his pay day in '10, if healthy. If you want to blame someone on the Prior non-tender, blame Prior himself. I remember before he was drafted, it was speculated he would be taken by the Cubs. He let it be known he did not want to play for them and made mention how he wanted to play for a team that could win and preferred the West Coast. When he was taken by the Cubs he dropped that talk and said all the right things. I never forgot it and always felt he would bolt when his time for FA came. Unless the Cubs overwhelmed him with much more money.
I would imagine he knew this was coming so he can be a Padre very soon.
Posted by: Oh Boy | December 12, 2007 at 11:05 PM
You can have him. anybody that would deliberately sabotage the team that pays them by being a dick can take a F'n hike. So long Prior, don't let the needle hit you on the ass as you leave.
He'll need Petco park to save all his 85mph fastballs from winding up in Japan.
Posted by: Dave | December 12, 2007 at 11:28 PM
Dusty Baker ruined Prior. Good luck Cincy fans!
Posted by: Teetz | December 12, 2007 at 11:56 PM
lol@bluemustang
Kaz isn't a statistical upgrade over anybody, as I believe someone already pointed out he was one of the worst hitters in the bigs on the road. Though Minute Maid is also hitter friendly, it doesn't come close to Coors, especially for a guy like Matsui with little power. The huge gaps at Coors really help him, and lest we forget despite that he still only hit .288 with 4 homers.
He's yet to stay healthy in the majors and produce anywhere other than Coors, and you think this is in anyway a good signing?
Posted by: Game555 | December 13, 2007 at 12:44 AM
It was definitely time to let Prior go. But you KNOW, just because he is an ex-cub, he is going to go on to be the Cy Young for like 6 years in a row.
Posted by: grathanial | December 13, 2007 at 12:49 AM
Wouldn't it just be amazing if the Whtie Sox took a chance on him and he returned to form? The way this offseason has gone for KW, taking a chance on Prior has to at least be pondered in the back of the mind of Kenny? I mean how much worse can this offseason get for my White Sox? It would be a great way to give the fans something to look forward to seeing next year, and the buzz it would create around town? It would be an interesting, inexpensive attempt to get some excitement back to the Cell.
Posted by: CUBS=NOTHING | December 13, 2007 at 01:42 AM
I was thinking the same thing.
Posted by: gogowhitesox | December 13, 2007 at 01:49 AM
HOORAY! Josh Towers is gone!.... FOR GOOD!
Posted by: thenerbster | December 13, 2007 at 01:52 AM
I heard some guy named Dusty Baker actually has a pretty good relationship with Prior and already talked to him after he got the job...
Posted by: Grizzlyfox | December 13, 2007 at 01:54 AM
What would be more amazing is if he joined the White Sox and never pitched again.
Posted by: Game555 | December 13, 2007 at 01:55 AM
Akinori Otsuka was non-tendered.
Posted by: cords | December 13, 2007 at 01:56 AM
Anyone with extra 40man space could take a chance with Prior really, particularly those in some neeed of pitching and have a decent pitchers park.
Yankee non-tender list: TJ Beams , Matt DeSalvo , Darrell Rasner, weak... only Rasner look like he has anything to offer.
Posted by: Yu Hsing Chen | December 13, 2007 at 05:57 AM
Game and CubFan with all the colorful expletives,
First of all, .270 is above the average for major league starting 2nd baseman, and even further above average than National League 2nd basemen. At the end of the season, I may be singing a different song, but for now, I am glad he will be wearing a 'Stros uniform. My entire point at the beginning is that his numbers in Japan were better than Fukudome's numbers period, yet everyone is swooned by the possiblilty that Fukudome will somehow come over here and be a masher that is acutally worth $50 million, while bashing the Astros for taking Kaz at a much cheaper price in a miserable market for 2nd basemen. You can keep Soriano and Fukudome in Cub's blue, as well as Bell and Ramirez and their 120 games a season. I am satisfied with the moves my team has made, and enjoy listening to the know-it-alls who don't know anything try to find a reason that these are all bad moves.
Posted by: bluemustangpride | December 13, 2007 at 06:38 AM
McPherson, Mench, Towers...
Get to work Gillick!
Posted by: PhilsPhan | December 13, 2007 at 08:24 AM
Dusty might take Prior and finish him off.
Seriously, Hendry had no choice. It didn't make sense to pay him $3.5 million to rehab this year and then walk next year. I don't know if he will ever pitch again but if you look at what has happeened to this guy in Chicago, he is better off trying to start fresh somewhere else.
Posted by: cachhubguy | December 13, 2007 at 09:07 AM
Bluemustangpride did you do any statistical research to support what you have said? No, but guess who did? Me. You are a moron for calling me the know that doesn't know anything because I have zero doubt that I know well more than you. You are a moron, lol I love your 120 game season comment...Ramirez hasn't played less than 120 games since 2000, and he has averaged 145 games per season over that time span...even more amusing Matsui has never played more than 114 games in a season and has averaged 94 games a year over his whole career. You make yourself look really dumb, Matsui is a very poor player. Your very wrong about the stats, the average batting average of qualifying starting 2nd basemen in MLB last year was .285, 15 points higher than your studly proven ".270" hitter. The National League average is .278, STILL 8 points higher than what you claim is such a solid .270 average. Shut up before you make yourself look dumber than you already have. Your a joke.
Posted by: CubsFan1654 | December 13, 2007 at 05:42 PM
If you seriously believe that .270 is solid, you don't have a very good grasp on baseball. If Matsui were a .270 hitter with power then he may be considered above average, but when you hit for a below average BA and you have as much power as David Eckstein you are a bad hitter. Attempting to make a case that he isn't bad is a complete waste of time. You also have to watch a person play ad not just look at numbers to compare them. Do you really think that Kaz has as much power as say Micah Owings or Geovany Soto because they had the same amount of home runs? lol not a chance. Matsui is a slap hitter, Fukudome is a gap hitter who has a power hitters swing as well as a power build. Fukudome also gets on base much more than Kaz and is a much more patient hitter. Over their careers in Japan Fukudome's OBP was an average of 86 points higher than his BA, Kaz was only 53 points higher. Fukudome is also a much better defensive player for his position. Fukudome is a much better and higher quality player, stop kidding yourself.
Posted by: CubsFan1654 | December 13, 2007 at 05:57 PM
lol, CF handed him his ass pretty much.
Posted by: Game555 | December 13, 2007 at 08:36 PM