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The Twins moved quickly, signing shortstop Adam Everett the day after he was non-tendered. Everett will get $2.8MM on a one-year deal.
Pitchers will enjoy his defense, but Everett is an out machine. The shortstop cupboard is pretty bare now.
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Now Punto and Everett can battle it out for the Twins' lowest batting average for an everyday plater.
Posted by: tolo316 | December 13, 2007 at 10:52 AM
isnt Everett just kind of like Barlett(type of player)
Posted by: Larsen101 | December 13, 2007 at 11:04 AM
Except for better defense than bartlett.
Posted by: bgigs52 | December 13, 2007 at 11:08 AM
He should have more solid defense, Bartlett was kind of a shot in the dark, but Barltett had a much better bat.
Posted by: TWINSFAN | December 13, 2007 at 11:09 AM
same offense no homers, .250 to .270, 20 steals or so and a possibly gold glove in the AL. This is actually better for the twins then having bartlett so they can moving brendan harris to 2nd were he should be
Posted by: patsfanatic83 | December 13, 2007 at 11:13 AM
Hey, maybe now he'll contend for a Gold Glove!
Posted by: jatorres | December 13, 2007 at 11:14 AM
I Agree with the last post the it is a good move but I think that Harris would be better at 3rd dont you think, eventually Casilla at 2nd....
Posted by: TWINSFAN | December 13, 2007 at 11:15 AM
This could be the start of filling the few extra spots to make the trade with Boston with Santana. They would fill cf with ellsbury, 3b and 2b with Harris and Lowrie, and getting what else we can get for the trade.
Posted by: bgigs52 | December 13, 2007 at 11:21 AM
This could be the start of filling the few extra spots to make the trade with Boston with Santana. They would fill cf with ellsbury, 3b and 2b with Harris and Lowrie, and getting what else we can get for the trade.
Posted by: bgigs52 | December 13, 2007 at 11:21 AM
are you serious?? Every astro move gets clowned but yet you all like this???? Enjoy NEVERHITT!! enjoy the free out at the bottom of your lineup, well take a declining tejada over him anyday
Posted by: AstrosWin | December 13, 2007 at 11:22 AM
the ellsbury lowrie masterson and 4th prospect makes sense now, everett is signed for only one year which gives the twins time to groom lowrie to there system
Posted by: patsfanatic83 | December 13, 2007 at 11:29 AM
imagine this:
Cf Ellsbury
C Mauer
Rf Cuddyer
1B Morneau
Lf Young
Dh Kuebel/Monroe
2b Harris
3b ???
SS Everett
Looks tons better than last year
Posted by: patsfanatic83 | December 13, 2007 at 11:33 AM
I'd take Tejada, too, of course. The difference, of course, is that the Twins didn't have to give up a ton of prospects and pay millions of dollars in salary to get Everett.
The danger is that Gardenhire will feel inclined to have he and Punto in the lineup at the same time. One other thing... where did he hit in the Astros' order? If it was 8th, that would have a negative effect on any player's offensive production as you'll never see a pitch worth hitting with the pitcher's spot behind you. Hitting 9th in the AL, you're (theoretically) protected a bit better by having the leadoff guy coming up next.
Of course, with Minnesota's offense, this hasn't necessarily been the case.
To me, this sounds like just picking up a cheap option to throw in to the mix in Spring Training and see what comes out in April.
Posted by: JimCrikket | December 13, 2007 at 11:33 AM
and harris plays much better defense at 2nd than anywhere else so no they could do much better than harris at 3rd. they will find a way to sign a better 3rd---> maybe ensberg or mcpherson
Posted by: patsfanatic83 | December 13, 2007 at 11:38 AM
for the most part he hit 8th cuz he cant hit the ball.. We tried for a while batting him 2nd and it just never worked.. Occasionally he would get 2 or 3 hits and everyone would like him again but comeone you gotta have more than just 1 of those in a 3 year span. And as far as giving up prospects, before the trade everyone said the astro system is washed up and we got nothing to offer. Well what did we give up (a possible number 3 in patton and a decent field who we had no room for in scott). I think the astros just need to go out and sign some of those pitchers coming back from injury because if we go in with the same rotation as last year, we have no chance.
Posted by: AstrosWin | December 13, 2007 at 11:45 AM
AstrosWin, how did you decide the consensus was in favor of this signing?
Posted by: Tim Dierkes | December 13, 2007 at 11:50 AM
im just saying we sign anybody every single person(yourself included) has something bad to say.. We sign bourn you didnt like it, we sign Matsui you dont like it, hell when we brought up pence im sure you had a probelm with that too. Im just saying everyone points how how good he is on defense but if it was the other way around and the astros got him, everyone would point out how horrible of a bat he is.
Posted by: AstrosWin | December 13, 2007 at 11:54 AM
and i was talking more to the people posting comments then who wrote the actual story.. the actual story notes hes a horrible hitter but everyone commenting seemed to think hes a god. yea he can play SS but when he bats youll wish he wasnt playing.
Posted by: AstrosWin | December 13, 2007 at 11:55 AM
Buyer beware.
The reason the Astros non-tendered him is because they were concerned he lost a step on defense after his broken leg.
So Twins fans, it's a risky move to assume he'll be the same healthy and solid defensive player as in years past.
Posted by: astrosfan | December 13, 2007 at 11:57 AM
Anybody have statistical information on what turf could do to a guy like Everett? My thought is that combined with his speed, it might help his offense, but I have nothing to back that up (does he hit more ground balls?). Leaving the short porch in Houston, I imagine his HR total will decline.
Defensively, he'll be playing on what should be a much quicker infield, any thoughts on how that will affect his defensive stats? Isn't he coming off a leg injury? Hopefully the turf will not cause problems with that.
Posted by: trilambda | December 13, 2007 at 11:58 AM
I think that this is a good move for the Twins simply because they don't seem to care about offense, they needed a shortstop and he's the best defensive shortstop. The Tejada deal was bad IMO because he's a third baseman at this point, is expensive and declining and cost a lot of useful players.
I'll tell you why the Astros are constantly looked down upon; it's because they are a terrible organization and they consistantly make bad moves.
Posted by: gogopalehose | December 13, 2007 at 12:02 PM
Ok they also had one of the worst GM's in the history of baseball.. How many of you would have signed off on the Jennings for Taveras, Hirsh and Buchholz trade?? Wade has to undue some of that. He realized he cant make the rotation and allstar lineup and the batting order all power hitters.. SO he went out and made the bullpen better and now made the lineup the best since the Killer B's. You gotta start somewhere to clean up the mess.
Posted by: AstrosWin | December 13, 2007 at 12:09 PM
Everett might be one of those rare players who you would rather have the pitcher hit than him...
Posted by: basemonkey | December 13, 2007 at 12:09 PM
If Jennings were healthy last year that may have worked out fairly well, so don't damn the Astros organization over that one move.
Also, people forget that if the Astros had kept Tavarez, then Pence may not have developed so quickly.
I agree Purpura was pretty bad and Wade is much better so far...
Posted by: astrosfan | December 13, 2007 at 12:22 PM
Everett SS, Harris 3B, Casilla 2B, Punto util. Harris should be decent at 3rd
Casilla
Harris
Mauer
Cuddyer
Morneau
Young
Monroe/Kubel
Corey Patterson
Everett
Posted by: maximumpotential | December 13, 2007 at 01:09 PM
People need to settle down a bit, this is just a stopgap we need badly for next season. With this signing the Twins now can almost get a full lineup together. One of goals this offseason was to get a better bench as well, so by no means is this the Twins solution for SS. As of now there just trying to get stopgaps so they can keep searching the market and keep building. Before this we had a hole in center, ss, 3b and 2b depending on where harris went. We're now down to 3b and CF if the season starts tomorrow, we could probably at least fill CF, 3b would be another hock job though.
The Twins are just trying to get a more comfortable situation so they don't have to be in a rush to deal santana/nathan to fill allthe holes we had. Essentially it helps them gain a little more focus on who to trade for and makes up look a LITTLE less desperate.
Posted by: MillerTime | December 13, 2007 at 01:16 PM
Let me stress that Adam Everett is not your typical good-field, no-hit shortstop. His glove is Ozzie Smith-esque. In 2006, he was 48 runs better than the average shortstop, according to UZR.
FORTY EIGHT!
Tulo was only about +25 this year, and that's pretty damn good. There aren't many players who are 50 runs better than average with the bat -- Miguel Cabrera comes to mind as one.
Yes, Everett's hitting is awful and hurts his value. But he's a borderline All-Star even though he hits like a pitcher. Assuming his broken leg heals, this is a steal for the twins.
Posted by: Sky | December 13, 2007 at 01:37 PM
I can't believe I'm actually about to say this...
I would rather have David Eckstein.
At least then we'd have a league average OBP to go along with a complete lack of power. He'd better play some SICK defense...
Posted by: Cactus Fantastic | December 13, 2007 at 01:45 PM
I hope you're right Sky, that would make me feel a lot better about this.
Where do you find that fielding runs above average data, by the way?
Posted by: Cactus Fantastic | December 13, 2007 at 01:52 PM
adam everett is crap. there's a difference between sacrificing defense for offense and sacrificing defense for a complete black hole in your lineup. the guy has a career on base percentage of .299. his ops last year was .599. that's absolutely horrifying. he should learn how to play 2nd and 3rd and maybe he could be a good defensive replacement on your team, but other than that he doesn't deserve a spot on a major league roster. have fun with your 8 man lineup, minnesota!
Posted by: boomshwa12 | December 13, 2007 at 03:17 PM
I've been listening to the no-nothings on the Astros blog trash Everett for years. Everett is by far the best defensive SS in baseball. In fact his defense is worth 60 points on his BA. And he is a joy to watch play. As for his offense, Garner simply had him miss cast. He was the best #2 hitter in our line up. He bunts well, and has good speed, but probably strikes out more than you like for a two hitter. Lifetime in 384 ABs he has a .291/.323/.404 line in the two hole.
I'm lad to see he landed on his feet with a good organization.
Posted by: Flash | December 13, 2007 at 03:39 PM
UZR - tangotiger.net/mgl
a more-than-you-wanted-to-know fielding discussion - http://jinaz-reds.blogspot.com/2007/03/how-should-we-calculate-zone-rating.html
Posted by: Sky | December 13, 2007 at 03:48 PM
"He was the best #2 hitter in our line up"
i repeat, his on base percentage is under .300 for his career. a good number 2 hitter gets on base more often than that. kaz matsui's on base percentage was almost at .350 last year and people have been criticizing his signing. his defense was amazing sure, but it still didn't make up for how much he struggled offensively
Posted by: boomshwa12 | December 13, 2007 at 04:04 PM
No matter how you manipulate the numbers, Adam Everett is an awful hitter. He can't for contact, can't hit for power, isn't very fast, and doesn't walk terribly often. He has zero positive things that he can bring to an offense. And it isnt like he's a platoon guy, he sucks against righties (3 yr. avg OPS of .651) and lefties as well (3 yr. avg OPS of .606). His defensive is incredible, but anybody calling him a even an okay hitter is quite wrong.
"He was the best #2 hitter in our line up.Lifetime in 384 ABs he has a .291/.323/.404 line in the two hole. "
And flash, if you're happy with a .323 OBP in the 2 hole, then you'll fall in love with Kaz Matsui. Matsui is a perfect example of the Coors effect. He posted a .350 OBP last year, but it was .304 on the road. His road numbers are a much more realistic representation of his abilities. A .323 OBP sounds about right for Matsui next year.
Posted by: scribbletone | December 13, 2007 at 05:40 PM
adam everett. who cares?...by midseason he will be released. hes pretty much an experiment cause we dont have the guts to pull off a trade.
Posted by: Meyer15 | December 13, 2007 at 08:06 PM
Don't worry, us Twins fans are used to having a black hole in the lineup. After having Nick Punto play 150 games last year, Everett will look like Barry Bonds at the plate. (I'm not even going to think about the possibility of Gardy putting both Everett and Punto in the lineup at the same time.... that's just scary)
Posted by: MikeTwins | December 13, 2007 at 08:16 PM
Just because I love to think of how embarrassing an Everett-Punto back of the batting order would be, lets review their respective 2007 seasons:
Nick Punto
1 HR, 25 RBI, .210 BA, 291 OBP, .271 SLG, .562 OPS in 472 at bats. That may well be the worst season by a regular starter I've ever seen. Wow.
Adam Everett
2 HR, 15 RBI, .232 BA, 281 OBP, .318 SLG, 599 OPS in 220 at bats (due to broken leg).
Well. At least I know theres someone worse at hitting than Everett. It's Punto.
Posted by: scribbletone | December 13, 2007 at 09:09 PM
I totally agree with what's being said about Everett's defensive ability and offensive liablitiy. Funny thing is the Twins seem to find a way. Is it the Johan factor or does their way of winning really work?
Posted by: toshiro | December 14, 2007 at 08:09 AM
If you think Pence is better in the 2 hole than Everett, which most people do, you're right - by three whole points.
My point is, that is where he is better suited and if Garner would have realized that Everett would look a lot better offensivly.
Everett is fast, and regularly is at the top of the league in sacrifices, which is what you want from a #2. #1 is where you want your best OBP.
Actually, you guys in the American League just swing for the fences everytime up anyway. So, nevermind.
Posted by: Flash | December 14, 2007 at 01:30 PM
I think you want good onbase and speed in both #1 & #2. It's better to work the count and walk to get the leadoff guy to 2nd than to give up an out to do it.
For the record, Everett averaged 11 sacs for the entire 162 game year. I don't think his sac game had a strong impact on the game. The fact that his onbase was 50 points lower than the league average (which *includes* pitchers), yea, that might've been a problem.
No, the only place for Everett on the Stros was the #8 hole.
Posted by: toshiro | December 14, 2007 at 01:49 PM
LOL, i didn't know that there was a spot in the lineup where you didn't want OBP. Now baseball is making sense.
It is all clear now. The #2 hitter only matters when there is someone on base. Perfect! Being a fan of the Red Sox, i have seen how excellent Lugo is at putting down the bunt. I think i'm going to suggest to Tito we put him in the 2 hole. That way when our leadoff hitter gets on we can advance him and when no one is on we can keep it that way.
Wow, baseball makes so much sense now. I wish Adam Everett was on my team. Anyone that is so good he gets cut from the Astos has to be great.
Posted by: Ripwa | December 14, 2007 at 02:50 PM