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Multiyear Contract Discussions: Teixeira, Tulowitzki, Morneau
With today's deadline for arbitration-eligible players, it only makes sense that all sorts of long-term contract discussions are going on. Even players and teams who do agree to one-year deals for '08 may find themselves with groundwork laid for bigger deals.
- That could be the case with Mark Teixeira. His agent, Scott Boras, had "quite a bit of dialogue" with Frank Wren about an extension prior to Tex signing for one year and $12.5MM. I recently guessed the Braves have a 10% chance of getting this done.
- The Rockies have had "intense, serious dialogue" with Troy Tulowitzki's agent about a long-term deal. Tulo isn't arbitration-eligible yet though, so Dan O'Dowd may choose to resolve his arb cases and get back to his shortstop afterwards. Tulowitski could sign a six-year, $30MM deal, a record for a player with his service time.
- Justin Morneau signed for one year and $7.4MM. LEN3 says the Twins may contact his agent about a multiyear deal but haven't yet.
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The "quite a bit of dialogue" bit seems like we're just being set up for a disappointment. I really want to think there's a better chance of getting Tex on an extension, but Boras always ruins everything when it comes to situations like this unless you're the Yankees or the Red Sox, and have more money than god.
Posted by: FineHamAbounds | January 18, 2008 at 10:31 AM
Why would the Rockies even consider signing Tulowitsky for a long term deal when he hasn't even reached arbitration.
What, is Tulo going to ask for a trade after his rookie year? Tough noogies kid.
I'd consider it maybe two years from now since he appears to be a great player. I'd follow what the Mets did with David Wright and Jose Reyes and make an offer with a year or two left of arbitration.
Wright and Reyes got paid, the Mets got a long-term discount for buying them out of a couple years' worth of arbitration.
Posted by: Calamity Francis | January 18, 2008 at 10:35 AM
Wren will definetly be the man if he extends Tex.
That would definetly ameliorate any fall out from Kotsay's impending injury woes.
Posted by: BaseBallz | January 18, 2008 at 10:37 AM
That should be number one on the priority list for the Braves.
Posted by: Ya Hote Ta | January 18, 2008 at 10:53 AM
I can only hope that all these silly trades have been an attempt to avoid paying a FA so the Braves can bank some money for Tex next year. In that light, Kotsay doesn't seem so bad, I suppose.
Posted by: FineHamAbounds | January 18, 2008 at 10:59 AM
IF:
A: The Braves use the money they saved by making the move for Mark Kotsay AND
B.Mark Kotsay proves healthy and productive this year...
I will cease my criticisms of Frank Wren.
I know I have been a little harsh on the guy, and for all I know these moves could be really genious. All I can say is that a long term signing of Texeira would patch things up nicely...
Posted by: Andy Braves Fan | January 18, 2008 at 11:13 AM
Well, I think that the whole dialogue between Boras and Wren may be a good sign, but I definitely know it is a sign the JS does not have that much influence on Wren's actions as a lot of us might think. that is both good and bad. good that we have a chance to sign Teixera even though Boras is his agent, bad because I do not know if JS would have traded this much young talent.
Posted by: bravesbeast | January 18, 2008 at 11:24 AM
The Tulowitski move has as much, or more, to do with the managements aims as opposed to Tulowitzki demanding more money. Gives the Rockies cost certainty and tells their fan base the young core is going to be here for a while so go ahead and get emotionally attached to them. It also sends a message the are open to revisiting things if you achieve a higher standard. Debate if management should hold off a year before committing if you want but consider the Rockies do not have the revenue stream the Mets have and the longer you wait the more it will cost to get the player to sell out their arbitration years. But the rest of tis is the sign of a healthy franchise to me.
Posted by: daveinexile | January 18, 2008 at 11:34 AM
Definetly seems like Wren is a more "wreckless" owner than JS. Willing to trade away young players for bits and pieces to the team, and maybe more willing to shell out the big bucks for the prime free agents.
What if he turned the Braves into the Yankees of late?
Posted by: Smoltz's Beard | January 18, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Um...Wren and Schuerholz are/were not owners. yikes.
They are general managers, and they do not control how much money goes towards the payroll, they just work with a figure that is given to them.
Posted by: Ya Hote Ta | January 18, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Christ, take it easy. I know they're GMs, it was simple mistake.
But thanks for the tip. I needed it spelled out for me.
Posted by: Smoltz's Beard | January 18, 2008 at 12:20 PM
you guys really need to maybe let a season or two happen before you pass judgement on frank the tank. Look at the braves depth in each position. All around, do you see another national league team with the all around depth the braves have?
Posted by: SlinkyB | January 18, 2008 at 12:36 PM
Smoltz's Beard -
I was just pointing it out. It wasn't meant to be mean-spirited. Relax. I don't think I could have taken it any easier haha.
Posted by: Ya Hote Ta | January 18, 2008 at 01:10 PM
This is tough to gauge but it should also be mentioned that Teixeira has been on the record to have talked about being an Oriole, his hometown team he grew up with in MD.
While he was with the Rangers he gave a lot of hints and suggestions just short of being illegal that he may have a lot of interest in playing for the Os. Players under contract with a current team rarely give out hints about playing for opposing teams as strong so it's worthy to note. Also make note that Peter Angelos is equally expressive about being upset not drafting him when he was an Amateur, and since then, he has dropped hints about wanting to get Teixeira when he turns into a FA.
Posted by: basemonkey | January 18, 2008 at 01:31 PM
Does that ^^^^^^^^^^^ mean he will be an Oriole? No, not necessarily. Though it may mean that both the Orioles and Teixeira have hedged bets towards each other.
Posted by: basemonkey | January 18, 2008 at 01:33 PM
I love Teixeira, and hope to god that Atlanta resigns him. But if accepts a deal from a Baltimore team that won't even sniff the playoffs for at least 5 more years, then good riddance.
Posted by: daslied | January 18, 2008 at 01:48 PM
At least there's a little solace in the fact that Teixeira will be a Type A if it gets that far. We still got hosed on Andruw (probably still wouldn't have offered arb if he was Type A anyways tho).
Posted by: ksesxe | January 18, 2008 at 05:27 PM
Wren will definetly be the man if he extends Tex.
That would definetly ameliorate any fall out from Kotsay's impending injury woes.
Posted by: BaseBallz | January 18, 2008 at 10:37 AM
This.
/Also, +1 for the word 'ameliorate'
Posted by: TheAngelicDoctor | January 19, 2008 at 08:33 AM
6 years/$30 million is a great deal for the Rockies. The only question is would the kid want to stay there that long? Man, I wish the Astros traded for him instead of Tejada, but that would never have happened. At least we wouldn't have had to deal with the whole steroid controversy.
Posted by: The Mitchell Report | January 19, 2008 at 02:04 PM