White Sox Eyeing Bartolo Colon

Agreed. Adding Colon will only add another question mark for the Whitesox.

We need less question marks and more exclamation points. Even just a period would be fine.

Now the White Sox will have two old, overweight starting pitchers who can't hit 90 mph on the radar gun. Boy this Kenny William sure knows how to build a team!

Then why is he not hitting 90 now? Please don't say it's because he's holding back to stay healthy. Every time he goes out there he's auditioning for Major League job. He NEEDS to give 100%. Either he is, and this is the best he can do, or he is limited by injury. Either of those things make him a horrible signing for any team who is looking for even a decent #5 starting pitcher. Enjoy him, White Sox fans.

Contreres wasn't hitting 94mph in September, or any other month. In the last three years his K's have gone from 154 to 134 to 113. His era from 3.61 to 4.27 to 5.57. His hits allowed from 177 to 194 to 232, while his innings pitched have gone down each year. KW has done a good job of improving his line-up but with Contreres, Danks and Floyd as your 3-5 starters, you are in trouble. He needs to find starting pitching and from what the scouts are saying about Colon, he is not the answer.

I think cachhubguy and nyroyal get off over and over knocking the sox. if you're a royals fan, you have nothing to boast about, and cachhubguy, you seem like an angels fan, in which you have nothing to boast either. I'm not boasting over the sox, but at least i'm not spending my life mocking other teams. the only thing that matters is winning your league and the WS... so get off your high horses and relax.

oh come on WS424, you have to admit that:
"Maybe KW can trade Konerko to Anaheim for Garland."
is pretty funny in a sad but true way…

Bartolo is a bit chubby but a little competition never hurt anyone. Sign him to a one-year deal and load it up with incentives and let him earn his money.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2007/07/all-eyes-on-con.html#comments

Tim himself saying Contreras hit 94, I can't get through to the link but now you know that he did hit 94 last season. I'm not sure if it was the same game, but I know it was against the Mariners and he hit 97 a couple times and 95 a few times. You don't have to believe me because I don't really care, but either way I know that it happened. Albeit, it was his first start in a couple of weeks after being demoted to the bullpen, but he did get it up there. I believe that Conteras is 38 right now, which I have read, it isn't uncommon to see a power pitcher lose his velocity at age 37, especially with all the innings on his arm from Cuba, God knows how many. And Ramirez, according to everything I have read, is 26, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is 27-29. But I severely doubt he is over 30, like I believe you have suggested before. Regardless, you have no proof o the subject and no reason to believe he would add an extreme amount of years to his age and be as athletic and speedy as people have said he is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/José_Contreras

At the bottom, it says that Contreras is actually only 2 years older than listed. Go ahead and tell me how unreliable Wikipedia is, but most of the time they have good facts.

http://yayabo.net/canales/noticias_ASP/img_not2/Alexei-Ramirez.jpg
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Alexei doesn’t look that old, does he? It’s kind of hard to tell but he seems to be around his listed age. At worst, he’s 29 or 30. Players never add more than four years to their real age. I’ll wait for more official pictures to get out, but you can’t jump to conclusions just because he is Cuban, that is unfair.

gogo and ws424, was I bashing the WS when I said KW has done a good job improving his lineup? Look, I call it like I see it. If you can't look at your team realistically, that's not my problem. You believe you can win with Danks, Floyd and Contreres. I disagree. We'll see what happens. And I'm not an Angels fan. I just don't think the Angels need Konerko. And I don't think Crede is Brooks Robinson. These are just my opinions. If you think I'm bashing your team because I disagree with your evaluation of players, oh well.

NYRoyal you live in a fantasy world where you make up things and call them facts.

Everything you said about Contreras is wrong. Firstly, he's not fat. He's probably in better shape than 95% of MLB players. The guy has the body of an NFL linebacker. Also, he easily threw over 90 all season long. If you watched the games then it must have been with the aid of your seeeing eye dog.

Also, Contreras is 37-38 years old. He is not in his 40's. No one has claimed this. And, he had a very good second half overall and many people feel confident, as I do, that he'll pitch well next year.

So, basically, he is nothing like Bartolo Colon. Nothing you said was accurate at all. Try paying attention next season.

Good lord, you Chisox fans are gulping the kool-aid. Contreras has lost a hell of a lot of velocity. You can't disagree with that. On top of that, he's lost control. Give me your prediction for him. If he stays in the rotation all season, I'll say 6.25. If he doesn't last long in the rotation and goes to the bullpen, then 5.50. Please give me your wonderful homerific predictions.

And I love your nonsense about ages. You guys probably aren't far off on Ramirez. He's probably around 30, maybe a little older, maybe a little younger. But you are living in a homerific dreamworld if you think Conreras is only 37-38. Good lord. Everyone knows he's over 40. Wikipedia is written and edited by people like you and me. I could go to his entry right now and change his age to 57. Want me to show you? I'd be happy to.

No one knows for sure how old he is, except for him. But all Cuban defectors lie about their age because they can. Because Cuba is a closed country, we can't demand that defectors show birth certficates or any other documents. Those documents are not accessible to us. So they can pick any birthdate they want. Check out the fake birthdates of Orlando Hernandez and Livan Hernandez. They aren't close either. I live in NYC and I remember the speculation back then by NY media about how old he actually was. These were sports journalists who were talking up how great this pitcher would be and they STILL thought he was several years older than he claimed to be.

He's in his 40's. There's no real doubt about that outside of the southside. But you guys can continue to live in your fantasy world and you will again be shocked by how quickly this pitcher in his "mid-to-late 30's" is declining. What a mystery it will be!

Well I have to say NYRoyal must be the one thats on crack here....He seems to think he knows everything, and saying how terrible the white sox are and everything, but can anyone tell me?? What do the Royals have going for them? NOTHING. Rebuilding another 10 years probably. The last time they were above .500 was 2003...and that was by 3 or 4 games! They have lost 100+ games probably 7 out of the last 10 years....They are a straight up joke of a baseball time. Royal I suggest you just shh until your team learns to win a few games please.

Also Contreras had some personal problems last season too. I'm not making excuses for the guy and I do believe he's in his late 30s, and maybe even 40.

Still the last month of the season has Sox brass hopeful for a better 2008. I doubt he'd be like the 2005 playoffs Contreras, but also not the early 2007 Contreras.

More likely somewhere in between. I'd feel more comfortable in Kenny getting someone like Livan Hernandez for #3 and move Contreras to #4.

Gavin Floyd has no business in a big-league rotation, and IMO Broadway has passed him up as a SP prospect too.

Signing Colon is a good risk. I don't have faith in Danks, Floyd, and Contreras. Ozzie can juggle Colon in and out of the mix with any and/or all three, play the match-up game at the end of the rotation, give a guy an extra day.Also wouldn't mind seeing Wilkerson in a bench role/LH bat off the bench.

Sorry. maybe I was overreacting slightly with shooting down gavin floyd that much, but I think anyone here would take a HEALTHY Bartolo Colon over gavin floyd anyday