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UPDATE, 1-10-08 at 10:34pm: According to Peter Abraham, the Yanks signed Lane to a minor league deal.
FROM 1-10-08 at 8:56am:
The Yankees are looking an affordable option as a possibility at first base. Mike Puma of the New York Times reports that 31 year-old free agent Jason Lane is on the radar.
Puma points out that Lane would have to learn first base, as he hasn't spent much time there is his career. Lane was a late bloomer, and may have topped out with his 26 home run season in 2005. But this wouldn't require much of a commitment, so it makes sense to give him a look. The Sports Hernia weighed in on this rumor today, check it out.
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why go after lane for 1B? yanks might as well go after mientkiewicz who will be both affordable AND will defensive wiz at first. lane would be a disaster
Posted by: KoolAid NYY | January 10, 2008 at 09:04 AM
it was actually the New York Post, not the Times, that ran this story. but what yanks shouldve done, with keep andy phillips. he was a fan favorite, could field really well, and could hit for average and in the clutch.
Posted by: epv2 | January 10, 2008 at 09:12 AM
The thing about Lane is that he actually won't have to learn 1st, as he played it quite frequently in ST. The Astros never needed him there because they either had Bagwell, Berkman or Lamb to man the position, and Lane is a good defensive outfielder. He would be the best defensive outfielder on the Yankees.....
Basically adding Lane the Yankees get a guy who can play all 3 outfield positions, 1b, and even pitch an inning or two if needed.
The main problem with Lane is that if he sees extended playing time, then there's a good chance he won't hit a thing.
Posted by: Darin | January 10, 2008 at 09:19 AM
As much as I hate to suggest it (and hope it doesn't happen), what about Johnson or Young to the Yankees for an upper-level pitching prospect? Thoughts?
Posted by: bignatsfan | January 10, 2008 at 09:25 AM
do you mean nick johnson and dmitri young from the nats?
first off, nick johnson never stays healthy. and second, dmitri isnt the right personality for the yankees... da meat hook just wouldnt fit in
Posted by: epv2 | January 10, 2008 at 09:27 AM
hahaha yeah I didn't think Young would fit in.
Johnson is an health liability, put he puts up some good numbers, and great at-bats when he's healthy, which he reportedly is again...
Posted by: bignatsfan | January 10, 2008 at 09:28 AM
hahaha yeah I didn't think Young would fit in.
Johnson is a health liability, put he puts up some good numbers, and great at-bats when he's healthy, which he reportedly is again...
Posted by: bignatsfan | January 10, 2008 at 09:29 AM
bignatsfan, do you remember who the yanks orignally traded nick johnson for? im drawing a blank
Posted by: epv2 | January 10, 2008 at 09:30 AM
Javier Vazquez. The Expos also got Juan Rivera and Randy Choate in that deal.
I was drawing a blank too - had to look it up.
Posted by: bignatsfan | January 10, 2008 at 09:33 AM
i feel like that deal was a push, johnson never stays healthy and vasquez was a bust for the yankees. even more so that the yankees got randy johnson for him. total busts
Posted by: epv2 | January 10, 2008 at 09:37 AM
yeah - now imagine if the Yanks picked Johnson back up despite his injury history!
Posted by: bignatsfan | January 10, 2008 at 09:40 AM
i would be the first to call for a firing of cashman
Posted by: epv2 | January 10, 2008 at 09:47 AM
1. Nick Johnson: never? in 05 and 06 he did play more games than Jason Giambi you know. oh and his line during those two season just happens to be fairly close to Giambi.
2. The Vazquez trade: see above, if the Yanks had Johnson in 05 / 06 it would have been a MEGA upgrade over Giambi at first with the glove and the parade of oldies and retread at DH for the Yankees. the Yanks got little in Johnson and they give up a fairly good catching prospect in Navarro for him. they really could use Navarro for back up C nowadays. oh and Juan Rivera also hit a ton in 06 when Matsui / Sheffield went down.
3. Nick Johnson's trade value right now isn't too high. I would give up a mid teir prospect for him sure. up clearly i wouldn't go up to a Hughes / Kennedy / Joba for him. at most I'd be willing to give them a Marquez or mayyybe a Horne or a combination of other guys.
Posted by: Yu Hsing Chen | January 10, 2008 at 09:48 AM
See, and I hope that the Yanks don't pick him up because c'mon, his luck's got to improve at SOME point. I think this could be the year he stays off the DL completely. He would have in 06 if he hadn't collided with Kearns.
Posted by: bignatsfan | January 10, 2008 at 09:51 AM
yanks didnt need navarro, b/c jose molina is pretty much the best backup backstop in baseball
Posted by: epv2 | January 10, 2008 at 09:54 AM
I'd love Johnson but the Yankees are too heavily left-handed as it is. Of course, left-handed or not, he would be better than most other options, but there are major issues with a trade for him - namely his injury and the Nats' asking price.
Johnson's major injury was a freak thing so I don't see how you can criticize him. If the Yankees had more RH hitters then Johnson would be at the absolute top of my radar.
I like Lane as a non-roster signing, but can't see him replacing anyone on the 40-man yet.
His defense in the OF is attractive, but between their 4 OF the Yankees do have 2 viable (though not great) options at each OF position, so this isn't critical.
If there's no risk to the signing (i.e. not a major league deal), then I'm fine with it. I'm sure they would have preferred Andy Phillips but they needed the roster space.
I'd be totally fine with a Duncan/Betemit platoon for now, with Giambi playing some as well (the more, the better, to get both Matsui and Damon in the lineup). 1B is a relatively easy position to upgrade at during the season. There's not much of a point in bringing in other mediocre options.
Rather than stick Lane or someone else there, I'd rather them give Matsui a shot at 1B.
Posted by: bobo | January 10, 2008 at 09:55 AM
yeah, but you have to understand though that his injury history is scary and he's due for a good chunk of change in the next couple of seasons if he goes down it's pretty painful.
again, I wouldn't mind at all in giving up some mid tier guys for him. but i certainly wouldn't give up a good one for him
Posted by: Yu Hsing Chen | January 10, 2008 at 09:56 AM
Yeah I don't know if that nats would trade him for mid-tier types. No way he gets traded until the season is under way anyways, but as a nats fan, I'd rather keep him in the lineup. It's a really interesting dilema the nats have at first, with two good hitters there - though with Johnson's better defensive side, you'd think they'd go with him as the starter, but as of now, they are projectin the opening day starter at first to be Dmitri.
With the yanks having had a plethora of players rotate in and out of there the last few years, I have to admit I'd be surprised if they didn't make a move on him.
Posted by: bignatsfan | January 10, 2008 at 10:10 AM
i still say andy phillips would be the best, cheapest option, and hes already a fan fav
Posted by: epv2 | January 10, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Phillips wasn't an option because they needed a 40-man roster spot. You can argue (maybe successfully) that he deserved the spot more than some others, but he is still easily replaceable, especially when they already have a similar but better player in Duncan.
I am sure that they would prefer Phillips to Lane today, but that was never an option.
Posted by: bobo | January 10, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Yeah i don't see why they would want Lane as anything more than insurance if Duncan gets hurt or something. and even then. Lane's never really shown particularly strong platoon split. he's probably better than Wilson Betemit / Juan Miranda against lefties i suppose. but that really just says more about those two's inability to even touch lefty than Lane's ability to hit them. if they REALLY want a strong option against lefty they might as well look into Kielty.
Nick Johnson through his career has actually been stronger against lefty. the lefty reasoning is weak.
Posted by: Yu Hsing Chen | January 10, 2008 at 11:14 AM
Lane would be 4th OF nothing more. Giambi/Duncan at 1B Matsui DH
Posted by: maximumpotential | January 10, 2008 at 11:29 AM
Jason Lane would be the best defensive outfielder on the Yankees, for sure. And he's got a plus arm. To tell the truth, I think he would adapt to first base quite well. But my thoughts mean nothing anyway. ha.
I remember a couple years ago when they thought he had the potential to be a 40 HR guy...oh how he has fallen.
Posted by: Ya Hote Ta | January 10, 2008 at 01:18 PM
What is Cashman thinking? He seems to have no clue about certain positions, including 1st base and relief. A fourth guy out of position at first base. Instead of wasting his time with this nonsense, try to pick up a setup man, like Huston Street, to make it a 7 inning game. If Nick Johnson is able to play this year after his fractured leg, go get him. How much could it cost?
Posted by: ralph | January 10, 2008 at 01:46 PM
IMO if we're going to bring anyone in for 1B, which I dont think we need to, I would bring in Morgan Ensberg. He might be a 3B but he could play 1B and he's a gamer.
Posted by: gianthinker | January 10, 2008 at 01:58 PM
Cashman said on YES that Lane has been signed.
It sounds like they want him for 1B, not outfield.
Posted by: BubbaFan | January 10, 2008 at 08:00 PM
Lane and ensberg are underrated players I don't know about first basemen. I think the yankees should stick with what they have hope giambi does something this year see what duncan has and just wait till next year and sign texiera and properly break the new park in.
Posted by: joemorgan=#1 | January 10, 2008 at 10:04 PM
This was a great cheap minor league signing. If he makes the squad in ST great. If not he'll be nice veteran depth in AAA.
Posted by: gianthinker | January 10, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Lane and Ensberg underrated??????? Are you serious?
Posted by: Palsgraf | January 10, 2008 at 11:28 PM
you must be about as smart as joe morgan to actually think those two stiffs are even replacement level.
Posted by: Palsgraf | January 10, 2008 at 11:29 PM
As of just 2006, Ensberg was a 5 win player. He is underrated if you think he isn't even replacement level.
Posted by: Ripwa | January 10, 2008 at 11:59 PM
"yanks didnt need navarro, b/c jose molina is pretty much the best backup backstop in baseball"
Awesome, just awesome.
New marketing slogan:
The New York Yankees, our fans think even our backup pieces of crap are better than yours.
Posted by: ArodSucksAtLife | January 11, 2008 at 12:09 AM
Go look at ensbeg's career numbers then come back and we'll talk.
Posted by: joemorgan=#1 | January 11, 2008 at 12:15 PM
Here I will do it for you.
.265/.376/.476
He's a walks machine has good pop and isn't horrible on deffense. last year was bad I'll admit but even in 06 he had an ob of allmost .400.
Posted by: joemorgan=#1 | January 11, 2008 at 12:22 PM
Now lane is not as good but still a more then capable 4th outfielder can play all three spots has good pop and did have an ops of .800 in 05 with full playing time. A minor lague deal is a good investment on this guy
Posted by: joemorgan=#1 | January 11, 2008 at 12:26 PM