Odds And Ends: White Sox, Angels, Crisp, Gillick

someone should tell the white sox their not going to sniff 2nd place much less the playoffs and that all the moves they made this offseason were meaningless

Gotta love Crisp. He can't hit his way out of a paper sack but he thinks he doesn't need to impress anyone.

"That's what they said to the Rockies and the Diamondbacks too.

um..no?"

Umm, yes.
The Rockies and Diamondbacks were both 76-86 in 2006, and last year they were both in the playoffs.

Read the article. Phil Rogers says that the ORIOLES are looking at veteran middle infielders (and Uribe was mentioned)...not the White Sox.

That's not even a rumor.

jimmywins1, it just isn't a fair comparison because of the context of the situation.

The Rockies and Diamondbacks both made the playoffs because they played in a much, much, much, much, much, much easier division. If they had to compete against the Tigers and Indians, then they'd finish in third place too.

Also, both of those teams were extremely lucky. Those teams were essentially carried to the playoffs by the unlikely and unsual good play of their young players. The odds of their young players playing as well as they did down the stretch were pretty low, but they just got lucky.

"So I guess, yeah, anything can happen. But in that case, the Red Sox should be seriously concerned with the Orioles."

The difference is, the White Sox have the players to succeed, Buehrle and Vazquez, Jenks, Konerko, Dye, Swisher, Thome, and Pierzynski are all good-great players.

Game55 or whatever your name is, your part of the dumb@$$ group too

your counting out teams already when season hasn't even started, "Sniffing 2nd place" wtf, who says that

we'll just see where the Sox sit come all-star break

I don't see how the White Sox could go after Roberts because Baltimore is looking for solid prospects that will develop within the next two to three years. We all know that the White Sox farm system is rated last in baseball. So they don't have what it would take to get him.

bjsguess is right

Jermaine Dye is a frikin down fall A.J is starting to get there even though he's only 30 Konerko's still hangin in strong and Thome, not showing to much of a good sign this Spring Training

need to build around Owens, Danks and... and Fields and even that Buergois guy, he's doin pretty good for us thus spring training

The White Sox might have a weak farm system, but I think that is because Kenny Williams uses prospects to get established talent. He never counts on them, so he trades them while they still have upside to get guys that can help the team now. Now I don't claim to be an expert, but the only prospect I can remember from the Sox system that got traded and then got good was Chris Young on the Diamondbacks.

Now you could just say that shows how bad the Sox system is. Or it just goes to show that prospects do not always pan out. The last couple years especially, Williams has traded many young minor leaguers for established Major League talent.

The system is depleted, which brings me to my point. I don't think the White Sox have a shot at landing Roberts, especially if the O's have scoffed at what the Cubs have been offering. They won't trade Floyd or Danks.

I can't see them offering more than Masset, Uribe and Brian Anderson. The O's got a CF in Bedard deal, Uribe is terrible, and Masset is out of options. I am a White Sox fan, and admit we have nothing to give for Brian Roberts. Maybe Jerry Owens would be more attractive.

But again, I really doubt the O's would want anything the White Sox have. Roberts might fill a need for the Sox, but they got nothing to give.

soxfan11,

go look at your rotation, then look at Detroits lineup. And thats excluding a 96-win team that was one game short of the world series and didn't lose a single key guy. As much as it is how mediocre the Sox are, its equally as much just how good Cleveland and Detroit are. Chicago has a quality lineup with some big power in there but that rotation is just so questionable. Even the reliable guys, Buehrle and Vazquez, really haven't been all that reliable. Contreras, Danks and especially Floyd are all huge wild cards. You just can't win puttnig that kind of starting pitching on the field. They'll need to get obscenely lucky to win the division, let alone finish second.