Mets Discussing Turnbow

As a Braves fan, it would make me very happy to see the Mets sign Turnbow. I'd look forward to seeing him come in with a runner on second and 1 out, then walk the bases full before hitting a batter to send in a run before they yank him.

That pitching staff in general has been pretty disappointing.

Sheets has been really good so far, but he's already logged almost 40 innings, so that means, that his only got around 100 innings left to pitch this season.

The Brewers could end up in 4th or 5th place in the NL Central with this pitching staff......

How can Gagne be a disappointment after seeing what he did last year for the Red Sox? The Brewers should have seen that one coming and not given him that ridiculous amount of money.

Heh, you have to give Boras credit. He can sell teams on who a player once was rather than on what they're most likely to be. Gagne is just done. Injuries and overwork from years in the Dodgers organization have finished him.

Turnbow was a one-year wonder 3 years ago. I can imagine the Mets organization discussion going something like this:

Omar (to front office staff and coaches): Anyone want to sign Turnbow?

Rick Peterson: I can fix him in 10 minutes.

Everyone else: No

Omar: OK, no it is. Next topic...

Speaking of Boras, I wonder how many "bad contracts" over the past 10 years has his name attached?

Yeah, I mean, John Maine was given up on in Baltimore, Oliver Perez was long forgotten about, Tom Glavine's career was finished, Pedro Feliciano was in Japan, Chad Bradford and Darren Oliver had their careers rejuvinated here, but Peterson sucks because he couldn't fix Zambrano. His other acclompishments dont hold and value. Kazmir is gone, he couldnt fix Zambrano, lets get over it.

Of course you take a flier on Turnbow if you can get him on cheap. The Mets need a power arm, and if he bombs you just cut him like they did with Danny Graves a couple years ago. This is what pitching coaches get paid for.

Do you mean remarkably bad as in Darren Driefort, 55M to a medicore pitcher who spent most of his time injured or just bad enough as in Drew, where at least we can pretend we have a great player for 70M and hopefully gets injured enough in 2009 to void the deal?

"Eric Gagne and David Riske, making a combined $14MM this year, have disappointed so far."

Someone alert the media!

I'm convinced that no matter how much progress MLB front offices make towards better analysis and better decision-making, the infatuation with signing overpaid relievers will never go away.

nrmax88, in my haste to express myself in the form of a mini-play I left myself open to misinterpretation so your critique is valid. However, my point was not that Peterson sucks, but rather that Turnbow does.

Peterson has done well in his coaching career. I just fear that he is only one man and has only so much time in any given day. He's already got a lot on his major league plate with trying to get Heilman back in order and get Pelfrey to do something positive consistently. Plus in the minors he has a hard throwing RH relief pitcher 6 years younger than Turnbow in Burgos, I see no need to stretch Peterson thinner with Turnbow.

Since you so kindly listed Peterson's accomplishments, please allow me to list his failures both young and reclamation: Orber Moreno; Mike Bacsik; Jaime Cerda; Jeremy Griffiths; Pedro Astacio; James Baldwin; Scott Erickson; Tim Hamulack; Mike Matthews; Royce Ring; Kaz Ishii; Bartolome Fortunato; Geremi Gonzalez; Jose Lima; Dave Williams; Alay Soler; Jason Vargas; Brian Lawrence; and the most egregious of all, Heath Bell.

Despite that list I like Peterson's work and am happy to have him as pitching coach of my favorite team. I just don't think he needs more 'client' to work with. I think he needs to concentrate on what he's already got.

Not much but Greg Norton to Atlanta

I actually think that Turnbow has some decent potential to be a good middle reliever with New York. His stuff is nasty and he flashed that in 2005 when he dominated as closer, but it fell apart from there on after. He just completely lost his command and so he was constantly getting behind hitters and walking way too many guys. In a new environment with a very good pitching coach, I could see him returned to be at least a good middle reliever, even if he'll never again be a lights out closer.