Padres Likely To Sell

How about a trade with Minnesota? Do they have any interest at all in an innings eating, back of the rotation Livan Hernandez?

The A's going after Giles would make no sense! The A's already have too many outfielders.

The A's need an impact bat like Bay or Holliday, not and old veteran like Giles.

I think Brandon Jones+lower lvl prospect to SD for Giles might work. Atlanta would get the LF bat they want (along with some OBP), SD gets a ML-ready prospect and someone else. Sliding Giles into the #2 hole behind Kelley Johnson allows Escobar to drop down to 6th behind McCann.

Or, there's the possibility of Jordan Schafer+Brandon Jones to SD for Giles+Maddux.

"Or, there's the possibility of Jordan Schafer+Brandon Jones to SD for Giles+Maddux"

Yes, please.

"The A's need an impact bat like Bay or Holliday, not and old veteran like Giles."

Giles will make very close to the impact the other two would and would cost significantly less.

"I wouldn't mind to see the padres get tony gwynn jr... but i dont think its enough for maddux."

Think about this logically. Maddux is a 42 year old number 3-4 starter with a sizeable price tag, assuming no salary relief from the Friars. He is not the hyper-dominant ace he was 7-10 years ago and prior. Meanwhile, Gwynn Jr. is buried in MKE and has a lot to offer the Padres as his style fits that park and the obvious family connection.

"Don't forget about Hoffman. He's in the last year of his contract, and Heath Bell is completely capable of closing."

Is he though? The guy has had 2 good years and it is yet to be determined whether Bell would be able to stand up to the heat of the closer role.

Exactly what part of Gwynn's career sub.-700 minor league OPS makes him "more than enough" for Maddux?

The Padres should look for offers for Chris Young. His ERA away from the pitcher-friendly Petco Park this year is 6.58 and that's no fluke. Last year it was 4.50 away from home. He's a flyball pitcher. There are teams out there who would drool over his ERA and it would definitely help them replenish their farm system by shopping him.

As a Cubs fan I really don't want them to trade for maddux. He's having a good year but his ERA is 2.45 at home and 4.75 on the road so Petco is definitely helping. I'd rather use a combination of marquis/hill than give up anything for maddux. of course I'd like to see the cubs go after burnett/harden/sabathia but I don't see Maddux as that big of a step up over what he have at this point in his career. that being said he's one of my favorite cubs of all time.

the proposed maddux for gwynn trade makes perfect sense. gwynn goes to san diego where his dad played and where outfielders r needed, maddux goes to milwaukee for veteran presence to work with his brother the pitching coach. it must be done.

MADDUX: bottom line is padres need to get youth and lose the old guys.
What i think would be an interesting trade for MADDUX would be....

PADRES-
MADDUX, ChIP AMBRES (AVG:.290 HR:16 RBI:62), and CLAY HENSLEY

-FOR-
BRAVES-
JASON HEYWARD
...... HEYWARD is an amazing athlete and would help the padres out in the outfield when he is ready for the big leagues, the braves would get a 2 pitchers and a outfielder capable of playing at the big league level and helping the braves out.....?

There's no sense in stating specific trade scenarios of player X for player Y because you simply don't know what GMs want. However I think its valid to discuss the needs of the team and who should go and who should stay.

padrefan63 has a few ok suggestions, but I think its not realistic at all.

Who should go: Maddux, Wolf, Kouzmanoff, Iguchi, Green, Barrett, Tony Clark (if someone is looking for a PH/DH and is willing to give up a Single A prospect), Scott Hairston, Brian Myrow (because as long as Adrian is here he has no shot)

Who should stay and why: Giles, every team needs heart and character and a clubhouse leader and I think he can be a productive .300 hitter for a few more years. How many other .300 hitters do we have?

Gonzalez boys, if both of them haven't cemented their position on the team I don't know what Towers is thinking. Adrian is obvious, but Edgar with a little work on his defense in the offseason appears serviceable at the least. Again, how many .300 hitters do we have?!

Gerut, this is his first full season back from devastating injury. He has shown he can cover CF VERY well and is hitting .280. If his power ever showed up again, he'd be a great addition. We should give him some time, even if its just as a 4th OF in the future.

Chase Headley, everyone keeps saying he's going to be a monster. I'm worried about his BA and his popensity to overswing and K. He is an average defender at best in the OF and at 3B. I hope he develops this season while the losing is going on.

What we need to get in return for any trades: at least one MLB ready OF (doesn't matter which position), a SS that could supplant Green if traded, AA or AAA infielders.

Who should get a shot after the trade deadline: Chip Ambres (if he's not traded), Nick Hundley, Josh Geer, Will Inman, Steve Garrison.

If Wolf and Maddux are traded there are gaping holes in the rotation until Young and Estes are ready to come back. Throw those three into the mix just to see how it goes.

I too, would like to see Tony Gwynn Jr. be a Padre, although I don't know what kind of impact he'd have here. I'd love to see him play here, he'd be loved for sure and he might get some good coaching from dear old Dad on a more routine basis. He's not going to hit .330 like his Dad or provide power like we need, but if he can steal bases I'd love to see that.

Another intersting trade would be for Adam Dunn of the Reds. This guy is an enigma. Many don't like his attitude (he's not a problem player, some label him apathetic) but from all accounts, none of the assessments are true. For a team with no power hitters outside of Gonzalez, Dunn would put 40 HR back in the lineup, even in Petco. He's not good defensively so having a GREAT CFer would be essential (Gwynn, Jr? Gerut? Torri Hunter? Ambres? Venable?). The Reds might be OK with a Kouzmanoff for Dunn deal straight up. Think about that one for a moment KT.

If Green is dealt, Christian Guzman (Nats) or Ronny Cedeno (Cubs) would be possibilities. Guzman is a known commodity with respectible defense and a solid bat (historically).

Many Pads fans would like to see Jason Bay return and I think the Padres should consider a blockbuster with the Bucs. Jack Wilson and Jason Bay are on the block and would fit nicely in the Padres plans for '09 (although neither is young talent any more but not old by any stretch). Pads would have to give up top end minor league talent for them. Green and Garrison to the Bucs? Green, Myrow, Ambres and Geer? Something to consider.

DW