Manny To Dodgers, Bay To Red Sox

Ok, sorry i was in rush spelling(pittsburgh)and Hanson just sucked playing for the sox but maybe he will be the #1 go to guy on the pirates. That's all i meant to say. sorry for the problems BucSox.

Hey Pedroia no prob I just hate seein people get ripped on for stupid stuff like spelling and I know how you feel about Hanson I'm a big Red Sox fan too and with our sad bullpen he is likely gonna be the closer.

I'm reading most of these comment on the trade, and some of them just make me laugh.

My beloved DODGERS, came out with a win on this trade by dishing out two young players, one(LaRoche) who is hasn't proven to be anything special in the minors or the pros. And we get a HOF'er for the rest of the season and 2 picks after. The only problem is how many OF'ers we have. Since Ramirez is free we can now waive Jones, and platoon Ethier and Pierre. Furcal shood be back in a month, and Penny shood return on Fri. vs. the Giants. I don't see how we are not in talks for the world series now.

The Sox, and Bucs, both got good outta the deal also. Bucs with a slue of prospects, and Sox with and out fielder with more HR's than Ramirez this year a better attitude and MUCH better defense for this year and next.

Everyone shood be pretty stoked.

I'm thinkin the Dodgers line up shood look like this.

1-Pierre-LF
2-Kemp-CF
3-Martin-C
4-Ramirez-RF
5-Kent-2B
6-Loney-1B
7-Blake-3B
8-Berroa-SS
9-Pitcher

With Ethier platooning, when he plays Kemp cood hit Leadoff and Ethier 2nd.

Is that stacked or what. especially when Nomar is back in less than a week.

This is totally random, but who thinks Andy LaRoche will play better playing across the diamond from his brother Adam.

No. That's not stacked.

*instead of kent when he gets off the DL

@ the guy that said Andy Laroche hadn't proved anything in the minors or majors... I'm pretty sure I've read he's had three 900+ OPS seasons in the minors,no?

I like this trade for the Buccos ... 3 guys (granted, all big losses for the current ML team) netted them 8 prospects ... three relievers, two starters, two OFs, and a 3B. I'd call Laroche and Tabata 5-star potential...the rest of the guys who knows but its obviously a little lower ceiling.

Overall, I think the bucs got at least 5 future ML players for 3 guys (2 of which they had zero intention of re-signing).

one thing is for shore: the dodgers are going to have a stacked bench, which in the NL is worth something.

Holliday is somewhat better than Bay...and a year younger...but when does his contract end? And what about his numbers outside Coors? Plus, Bay's bat should play well @ Fenway.

Uhh yea that is stacked, And Kent is good in the 5 slot, u might not see it in his # but he is a vet. at moving runners over, gettin the ball in the air when he needs to the little things, that helps wins games, I jus can't see Nomer playing 2nd more likely Blake, or when furcals back Blake, and Nomarr can platoon. Either way having too much talent are always good prollems to have.

We needs to sweep the D-Backs which puts me in a dilemma.lol I have a tryout for the D-Backs coming up and I'm a die hard dodgers fan.lol who do I root for? I think even if the D-Backs sign me ill still be a dodgers fan.

"i'm really curious though...is manny on a jet back to LAX as we speak to get the start tonight?"

I doubt that will happen, though I am going to the game so it would be a nice surprise.

"And Kent is good in the 5 slot, u might not see it in his # but he is a vet. at moving runners over, gettin the ball in the air when he needs to the little things, that helps wins games"

Calm down.

That said, you are right about Kent's hitting not translating to numbers. Kent has been scorching the ball for weeks now and hasn't had much to show for it.

"Will Torre make Manny cut his hair???"

I think not. Even Beimel's "hair cut" wasn't much of anything. Ethier's hair is actually longer and DeWitt was growing his. Perhaps a counter-trend?

"Why Bay?? couldnt the Sox have tried to land Holliday if they were gonna give up so much? or am I wrong to think of Holliday as a far more superior player?"

Bay played half the games in his career in a pitcher's park. Holliday has played half the games in his career in a hitter's park. Holliday's numbers away from Coors pale in comparison to those of Bay, which are fairly even home/road. In fact, Holliday's ex-Coors OPS is under .800.

Who is better now?

Lol yankees2727, just a matter of time until they make a waiver trade for Pedro.

Manny, Nomar, Derek Lowe I believe Bill Mueller works in the organization.

No what ruined it is I'm pretty sure he was talking about me but he used it in the wrong context as he was actually quoting the other guy but a lot of people have dyslexia.

Are you insinuating someone might lie on the internet???

No way...I don't believe that for a second.

Wait a second Dodgers fans. I don't even think this puts you in the playoffs. Theres a team called the Dimondbacks in first. They might not have much hitting but neither do you. What the dodgers needed was pitching (nevermind the recent shut outs). They didnt get anybody. The dimondbacks have a really good rotation and with Rouch now being their 7/8 guy they got a nice bullpen. watch out for the Rockies they are not dead yet.

Wuttup Yankfan1.

Who's your weed man. He must of hookd u up with the good stuff to have you talking like that. We don't need pitching we have the 2nd lowest ERA in the MLB and Pennny is coming back next friday. We do have bats Ramirez and Blake with more than solve or hitting wohws. Since mattingly came in as hitting coaxh after the all star break of hitting has enhanced drastically.

We had our AAA team playing ball for us with our injuries for close to two months, and the D-Backs still couldn't run away with the division now that we r sumwhat healthy we are 1 game back if we beat em tonite we'll be even. The D-Backs are don't they can't win the division with ramero play RF for them.

And the Rockies seriously, I don't believe you the rockies still havnt recoverd from the Red Sox whooping, Jus worry about your STANKEES making the playoffs becuase the Dodgers are a lock.

BleedDodgerBlu; If you are in fact a prospect good for you, but the fact you have a tryout for the D'backs tells me what your signing bonus will be, zero. If you were drafted then you would be getting a signing bonus. Only international free agents get signing bonuses of any consequence. You might be lucky to net a couple Happy Meals at Micky D's.

"I don't care who you guys think I am, or if you doubt that I'm a prospect, I need to prove nothing to you. I proved myself already that what got me where I'm at. You can dream about being a baseball analysis or a pro baseball player but I'm living it.

Lol. you are sad..."

MAN, this is gonna sound so much worse when you're 25..

As for the Manny trade, I can't see how a Dodger fan could complain. Yeah, maybe the defense will suffer, but this trade has so many benefits for LA that it's a no brainer to me. First off, they get to bench Pierre and Jones. Or at least they should. They're done with them, waste of money, whatever. Second, he's perfect for them. A masher in the middle of the order who can take deep counts and he's one of the clutchest players in recent memory. Third, look at what you paid. You guys gave up Andy LaRoche, who seemed destined to spend the rest of this year in AAA before getting dealt during the offseason, and Morris, a good prospect but nothing that wouldn't give up for something nice. In return you landed an elite bat, the kind of impact guy that can change a season. Now obviously I'm not saying that Manny is going to come and save the Dodgers, but really I don't see how the Dodgers could've made a better deal. Coletti may be an idiot but this is a stroke of genius.

And also, anyone who thinks the D-Backs are out of this is so freaking nuts that I can't even comprehend. Do you realize how good Brandon Webb and Dan Haren are? With those two in the rotation, a pretty good bullpen and a solid lineup, you just can't count out the D-Backs. I mean, they've tried the whole two big time aces thing before, with some guys named Johnson and Schilling (I think one of them might still be there and pitching pretty well), and it worked out. They've got some streaky hitters in young guys like Upton, Reynolds, Young and Drew, but when they're hot, the Diamondbacks are a very, very good team.

I'm done. seriously. I can't believe how many haters, and how much negativity is out there and for no reason.

I wood think sum ppl wood be happy for a young black male to make it out one of the worst neighborhoods in Los Angeles, To be doin sumthin positive instead of selling drugs, or gangbangin.

U can't say I won't make it ill be sayin the same thing when I'm 25, or that I'm illiterate and can't write say what you want doubt me, because no one except my mom ever believed in me I'm used to it. its jus more ppl to prove wrong.

HAVE A NICE LIFE.

getting? I don't think there's a day that goes by without some flame war... notably they happen more with guru around... but yeah, today's seems to chocked full a little extra bit of the crazy.

scribble, you got a point, but every fan for every team is biased in one way or another. It ranges from the fan who reads a team blog and starts arguing a B prospect is the second coming of Bob Gibson or Ted Williams to the fan who will defend a GM's move virtually regardless. I do agree that extreme bias is annoying. I'm a Red Sox fan and honestly for me one of the most annoying things is listening to some frat boy who's lived in Boston for 2 years saying he's a lifelong fan but can't tell me who Tony Conigliaro is or the significance of the phrase "Bucky f---ing Dent." Mostly these guys would say something stupid like package Jed Lowrie and Chris Carter for CC. All you can really do, stop listening.

Perfectly put Scribble. Let's just talk some baseball.

man, I missed a lot here; and it looks as though I'm glad I did.

BleedDodgerBlu-

Damn. Everyone beat me to the jokes...and they were funny too! (bjsguess, Nixa, scribble...props all around)

Don't get too worked up though, man. You just reek of youth and naivety is all.

Good luck at your tryout. Seriously....good luck! Bustin' stones is one thing, but you got a dream and you're doin' what you gotta do to get there. It's admirable. Just keep the ego in check, 'cause it's a long way to the bigs. Remember...even that fat guy at his CPU probably had big dreams at 19; may have even had a tryout, himself. You start thinking you're better than other people, you might be the one who winds up with stains on his shirt, typing bitter messages and screaming at his Mom to make him a sandwich.

Why do people think the Red Sox want Jack Wilson whatsoever. Don't the Red Sox have Julio Lugo to stink it up?

Lowrie for Wilson would be a major loss for the Red Sox. Wilson is all glove no bat, Lowrie has been a better hitter and he hasn't even played a whole season. Lowrie isn't the second coming of DJ, but his ceiling is much higher than wilsons. It is safe to say that Wilson has reached his peak, and what a foothill it was.

What is more likely to happen is this...if the Red Sox feel the need for a defensive SS utility player they will get someone for next to nothing. Someone like I dont know maybe Omar Vizquel. Something tells me the Giants would sell him off for a no name prospect. That is no dis respect to Visquel who is one of my favorite SS, but his age makes him cheap.