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Orioles Interested In Eckstein
According to the Baltimore Sun, citing "industry sources," the Orioles are talking to the Blue Jays about shortstop David Eckstein. The Jays have deemed Eckstein expendable, even though they're reportedly hunting for a long-term shortstop. Jeff Zrebiec and Roch Kubatko believe it wouldn't take much to acquire him.
Eckstein, 33, is hitting .273/.360/.348 this year. The Orioles' shortstops have hit .228/.264/.287 this year collectively.
The O's have also scouted Juan Uribe and Felipe Lopez. Despite previous reports of "substantive conversations" for Lopez, the Sun says the team's interest has waned.
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Ok....? So can anyone on the Orioles team help us? I doubt it but I'm interested to see what the Orioles would offer.
Posted by: Jays Believer 92,93 | July 03, 2008 at 08:11 PM
The O's have no one the Jays would even want remotely. This deal will not pan out, IMO, but with the Burnett for a SS rumor, I think that Ricciardi will end his tenure with a three team blockbuster, considering how unpredicably stupid he is.
Just wishful thinking.
Posted by: cyberzero_jays | July 03, 2008 at 08:15 PM
eckstein to the orioles makes good sense but he doesnt have much value. the orioles could sign him for another couple years if they needed to at the end of the season until they figure something else out. maybe a marginal young pitcher or midlevel prospect for him.
Posted by: Joelcards | July 03, 2008 at 09:13 PM
It would just take a B prospect and take the rest of this years salary for Eck. Or really even something lower then a B.
Posted by: Dev0 | July 03, 2008 at 09:38 PM
yes i agree devo. i think the orioles would pay that just to bring him in and see if he could be their shortstop for a couple more years. then if they want to try and contend(im not saying the should) sign a first baseman and a big time starter.
Posted by: Joelcards | July 03, 2008 at 09:42 PM
This is a great match for the O’s. Its no secrete they are more pretenders than contenders and have next to no shot in 08; but adding a player or two will send a really positive message to a young team which has the possibility of lasting for quite some time. Where generally you would need to give something of value up to bring in a player to help, Eck most likely wont cost much at all so... Then add in the fact that he is apparently a great guy to have around and will be a positive influence with his fundamentals style… Seems a perfect player for them to target.
Posted by: darkstar1661 | July 03, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Someone wants Eckstein ?!
Hopefully JP will take full advantage of this and get a few B level prospects for him. The Jays don't need him. Scutaro/Inglett/ Macdonald can fill in just fine for the rest of our unspectacular season so why the heck not ?
Posted by: BaseBallz | July 03, 2008 at 11:35 PM
This fits just about perfect for the O's. I wonder what Single A prospect it'll take to get this done. Shouldn't be too much I imagine. More OBP always helps. Now if the injuries would stop happening in the bullpen, O's might be alright... prob not but we'll see.
Posted by: Orioles13 | July 04, 2008 at 01:11 AM
Eckstein?
More like Yuckstein.
The Orioles have enough weak-hitting, weak-fielding shortstops. They don't need Eckstein.
MacPhail needs to be making moves gearing towards 2009, 2010 and beyond. Eckstein does nothing for the future of the Orioles ballclub.
The Orioles did nothing the past decade - up until MacPhail came along - other than try to patch a leaky dam.
Baltimore needs to target a young SS that is being blocked at the major-league level - such as the Phils AA shortshop Jason Donald - and deal some of the bounty from the Bedard and Tejada trades for him.
Posted by: JR | July 04, 2008 at 08:50 AM
JR,
The cost is next to nothing and you might be surprised what Eck could do for the clubhouse and attitude of the current kids. Montreal tried to be buyers in the early 2000s and it created a situation where the kids they had on the club ended up playing some of the best ball of their careers. If Balt makes a minor move to bring in someone like Eck and it means all he youngsters get much better then it’s a brilliant move. If they bring in Eck and it doesn’t do much then its not a bad move because he doesn’t cost anything. Trading prospects for more prospects though, well that’s pretty much running in place isnt it?
Posted by: darkstar1661 | July 04, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Darkstar,
Not if you are trading pitching prospects for position prospects. We have a dearth of decent position player prospects.
It wouldn't necessarily have to be limited to the people we got from Seattle or Houston though.
Posted by: JR | July 04, 2008 at 01:32 PM
The list of available shortstops aren't exactly long. It wouldn't surprise me if the Orioles have the worst combined production from their SS position in all of baseball, and the defense hasn't been all that swift either. Believe it or not, Eckstein is a significant offensive upgrade over Fahey and Bynum, and much better defensively than Cintron. He'll be cheap, and he's (reportedly) a great clubhouse guy. He fits with Trembley's fundamentals first approach. It doesn't mean they don't stop looking for long-term solutions, but at some point you still need to stop the bleeding.
Posted by: mstrchef13 | July 04, 2008 at 01:48 PM
"The cost is next to nothing and you might be surprised what Eck could do for the clubhouse and attitude of the current kids."
That is so true, the glare of the sun of his albino skin just fills everyone around him the aura of grit and winningness.
Posted by: ArodSucksAtLife | July 04, 2008 at 02:50 PM
“That is so true, the glare of the sun of his albino skin just fills everyone around him the aura of grit and winningness.”
…hahaha… Anyway, you know what I mean you ass… :)
Posted by: darkstar1661 | July 04, 2008 at 03:36 PM
I prefer Lopez from a talent/upside perspective, but can see the rationale for a minor offensive upgrade with clubhouse value. SS is the biggest hole for the O's, and a limited fill of that hole would help. The O's have to finish around .500 this year for the fans to consider the season to be a success.
Posted by: The Globalizer | July 04, 2008 at 04:35 PM
David Eckstein is far and away the most over rated starting position player in baseball.
Posted by: Austin | July 05, 2008 at 12:49 AM
I don't see Eckstein as overrated, I see him for what he is. An average to below average SS with the highest OBP among AL SS. As Dennis Green would say, David Eckstein IS WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS.
Posted by: 92-93 | July 05, 2008 at 01:30 AM
I should have clarified that to be an average to below average defensive SS. He looks like a 12 year old in the field.
Posted by: 92-93 | July 05, 2008 at 01:31 AM