Red Sox Trade Wish List

Probably a done deal. Need for need. At this point, I think the Rangers would be open to trading any one of Saltalamacchia, Ramirez, or Teagarden for young pitching.

Left-handed set-up man? Are we considering Okajima out of the picture? Or would he become a lefty specialist... or set up when you know you'll face a couple lefties?

BAA v Lefties = .220
BAA v Righties = .290

Remember when everyone kept saying Laird wasnt enough for Coco early this offseason?

Now its gong to cost alot more than Coco for the next starting C for the Sox.

Acquiring Reyes might require an arm...AND A LEG

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Why don't the Red Sox just bring up Lowrie instead of trading for Teixeira? He may not be as good but it's better than trading for a rental. They probably wouldn't re-sign him since they have Youkilis.

As for lefty set up men, how about Billy Wagner? LOL

that trade would hurt us in the end SeantayParlay. We'd have to give up at least 3 or 4 top prospects, lugo with full salary and that'd still be a bad deal for the Mets. i say we could probably (but unlikely) trade Lugo to the Orioles for if nothing else salary relief and getting Lowrie into the game. If we can get anything of any value for him i say pull the trigger.

I could see Saltalamacchia in Boston. But what would it take to get him? Obviously Lugo wouldn't suffice... What about Coco? Coco for Salty straight up seems decent.
Salty is hitting .220 in 132 AB (better than Tek's in less AB's). Coco has a .264 average in 208 AB with 5 HR and 22 RBI, which is a significant upgrade for Texas over Marlon Byrd (.238/3/13). Crisp also provides speed at the top of the lineup, something that in my opinion Ian Kinsler doesn't have.
Salty is also only 23 years old. I think he could handle being the everyday catcher. Maybe finalize the deal, and sign Tek to a one year deal for '09 and platoon them. Tek's hitting has dropped, and he's getting older, but there's no argument that he knows how to handle pitchers and he'd be a good tutor to Salty.

Coco for Salty? You cant get Laird from Texas for Coco, and you think you can get Salty for Coco?

As far as Byrd, umm Hamilton makes most of the starts in CF, with a collection of Bradley, Murpgy, Boggs adn Byrd filling in the other OF spots. Why would Texas take Coco when they have the MLB starter for the All Star game in Center?

Tex to the Red Sox seems like a stupid move. Would be a huge waste of defense, given that you would have two big time defensive 1B. Since Lowell isn't going anywhere soon, it is not like you can just up and move Youk back to 3B.

"Coco for Salty straight up seems decent."

I think that sounds like an excellent deal.

"You cant get Laird from Texas for Coco, and you think you can get Salty for Coco?"

Laird has hit MLB pitching better than Salty.

"2010 free agent list shouldnt be what we are looking at, teks contract is over this year. We need to find a replacement for him for next year."

Crunch I should have been more clear on what I meant.
I think there is a 99% chance that the sox sign Tek to a 2 year prob 18 mil contract. So in essence Tek will be on the sox for the next 2 years. It WOULD be nice if the sox were able to make a move for a youg catcher so Tek can Take him under his wing for two years. As you listed the 09 class is abysmal at best. Prying a good young catcher is going to take a ton.
Beleive me guys the sox would be lucky to get anything decent in return for Coco. The best thing for the sox to do is trade him during the winter meetings since the cf options are slim next year.
Purple I agree with Bowden. It would hurt to trade such a promising arm as his But in reality what would be Bostons best trading chip right now that you'd be willing to give up ya know?
On a side note,
I just want to see Lugo benched. I don't care HOW much the Sox are Paying him.

"Crisp also provides speed at the top of the lineup, something that in my opinion Ian Kinsler doesn't have."

Huh??? Kinsler is 23 of 24 in stolen bases this year. Believe me, he would run a lot more if he really needed too. The Rangers don't want Crisp. (well, they shouldn't but you never know with blunder boy Daniels around.

As for Lugo. I comepletely agree that he has to go! Hes doing horrible as of late but then again who is going to replace him? I think the Sox should think long and hard if lowrie is good enough for the team and if he will have the same success in the majors as he has had in the minors. Yes that would be the smartest thing to do but who knows. The only thing i know is that Lugo HAS TO GO!!

"It's not exactly like Lowrie is tearing it up in the minors but he has to be a better bet than Lugo especially defensively."

Lowrie hit very well during his call up this year and has respectable numbers in the minors. What he looks like is another Dustin Pedroia, which makes sense given the mix the Sox have right now.

"I hate Lugo with an absolute passion, he grounds into double plays like it's going out of style."

What is with all the spite for Lugo? He has been shaky defensively this year, but his offense is not nearly as bad as people claim. His OBP is very good and he is still stealing bases. The number of GiDP suggests he is hitting balls hard, because he is fast enough to beat out a lot of them. I agree that Lowrie is the way to go given that the Sox have plenty of speed with Ellsbury, Crisp and now Pedroia, but Lugo does have something to offer a lot of teams.

AA - In Late Inning Pressure Situations with Runners On Base, Lugo is hitting .111 with a .190 OBP (OUCH!)

Lugo is also hitting just .219 with Runners on Base (OUCH)

Lugo is hitting just .151 with Runners In Scoring Position. (OUCH)

Now, for all these trade theories/hooplah...

1. If the Sox can't land Jeff Clement or another top, top catching prospect, there isn't much sense in discussing this issue...yet. (On Clement, if the Sox were willing to eat some bad contracts like Sexson and offer up Buchholz, I'd think the M's would at least have to listen considering Johjima is locked up for 3 more years on yet another bad contract)

2. Lugo - he stinks on offense/defense but Lowrie isn't a great solution yet either. Unfortunately, there are very few options out there. Several teams need a SS worse then the Sox, and several teams are 1-3 guys deep on their SS depth chart already this year. Only thing the Sox have going with Lugo is they might be able to find a suitor for his terrible skills because the market is so thin at SS; however that hardly solves their dilema of replacing Lugo.

3. Mark Teixiera, this is a little ridiculous to me and a good example of why other posters here throw out random trade suggestions to often. If Buster Olney and Ken Rosenthal can make ludicrous trade ideas why not any of us.
If the Sox want a big Lefty bat to replace Ortiz (if he is out the rest of the season), the certainly won't spend the extra prospects getting a Gold Glove 1st Baseman so he can sit his defense on the bench. A guy like Josh Willingham or Dallas McPhearson or even Adam Dunn provides solid Left-Handed power without the defensive/all-star price tag of Teixeria.

Would the Sox really try to sign Teixeira if they traded for him? What would they do with Youkilis/Lowell for the next 3 years?

4. IF Ortiz is out for the rest of the season the Sox can either trade prospects for a temporary fill in, or...............deal Manny Ramirez for prospects and re-tool.

Personally, if Ortiz is out, dealing Manny might be the way to go as the acquisition of several top prospects for his bat could then be the centerpiece to an offseason trade to land Variteks replacement.

"Lugo - he stinks on offense/defense but Lowrie isn't a great solution yet either."

How is Lowrie not a good solution? He looks a lot like Pedroia, who is a Boston favorite and was last year's ROTY. You want the guy to be Ripken or something?

"A guy like Josh Willingham or Dallas McPhearson or even Adam Dunn provides solid Left-Handed power without the defensive/all-star price tag of Teixeria."

McPhearson has never proved that he can actually hit MLB pitching, though his tear in AAA suggests he is more than a AAAA player. Still, I agree that a McPhearson/Willingham type works and makes more sense than having Tex sit his defense, though I think Dunn would be nearly as expensive as Tex.

"Personally, if Ortiz is out, dealing Manny might be the way to go as the acquisition of several top prospects for his bat could then be the centerpiece to an offseason trade to land Variteks replacement."

Why would you do something like that? Deal your best overall hitter for prospects that you turn around to pick up a catcher? How many catchers in the league are worth Manny or the prospect haul he would bring? Martin and MAYBE McCann, and neither one of those guys are anywhere close to available. If anything, Ortiz being out means you have all the more reason to keep Manny, because it allows you to have Crisp and Ellsbury both in the lineup.

"As far as Byrd, umm Hamilton makes most of the starts in CF, with a collection of Bradley, Murpgy, Boggs adn Byrd filling in the other OF spots. Why would Texas take Coco when they have the MLB starter for the All Star game in Center?"

Good point. I guess it would have been better to mention the deal would probably hinge on Coco moving to left. Honestly, Hamilton is the hottest young player in baseball right now, and I refuse to discredit him. But can you honestly tell me you'd rather see a platoon of Boggs/Byrd over Coco? I said this when he was still in Cleveland: Coco can play the game, he just needs a chance to prove he can. He can't do it in Boston, because of the immense pressure of playing for the Sox padded with the emergence of the 2008 AL ROTY Ellsbury. (Yeah I said it.) Coco would have been great in Cleveland had he not been essentially blocked by Sizemore.

So it was also pointed out to me that Kinsler has a couple of SB's this year, so he has a little speed. But imagine maybe a 1-2 of Crisp and Kinsler hitting in front of Bradley, Hamilton, and Young.

And yes, the Tex package was centered around Salty, but keep in mind there were five other players involved in that deal, including one of the most sought-after relievers in the game right now (Mahay) and Elvis Andrus, Atlanta's second-best prospect.

I appreciate the criticism, but personally I still believe that a Crisp/Salty swap would benefit both teams. And for those of you who think Coco's not good enough for this trade, go ahead and throw in the ol' "cash considerations" or "PTBNL" maybe that'll pad the deal for you.

Yeah, cause the O's make a habit of trading promising young prospects within the division.

"But can you honestly tell me you'd rather see a platoon of Boggs/Byrd over Coco?"

Yes, because the Rangers already HAVE those players and could get someone they WANT if they're going to trade Salty. Why use a legitimate trading piece for a 28 yr old career .278 hitter that doesn't fit a need?

I appreciate the idea and if I were in your position (a Boston fan) I'd think it made sense too. As a Texas fan, I'd much rather see the Rangers call up a younger player (Mayberry, Cruz for one last time) than trade a young chip for an older outfielder. Now if it was a trade for what the Rangers felt was the last piece to make a run at a championship, might be a different story...

bamabo little problem with ur ellsbury 2008ROTY announcement, there's a guy in tampa named longoria who is going to and should win it, not even close there.

and ya coco and his .309 OBP would be great atop the rangers order btw
coco 13sb-3cs:
kinsler 23sb-1cs

-bring up lowrie, bench lugo, they have to, he is just to bad to continue
-tek, if they do bring him back 1 yr deal max, has anyone watched him bat lately he's become as effective as a slightly above average hittin nl pitcher

-and HOFer as a red sox fan, no salty for coco doesn't make sense.

manny, masterson, hansen and maybe a no name for matt holliday

coco,cash,masterson,lowrie,and a draft pick for salty and michael young

why not holliday, manny is old and not getting any better holliday is in his his twenties and hits like a manny of 5 years ago