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Rosenthal's Latest: Price, John Hart, Ibanez

By Tim Dierkes [August 6, 2008 at 10:44am CST]

A look at Ken Rosenthal's latest column...

Rosenthal notes that the Rays have an ace in the hole with David Price available to boost their pitching staff when they deem him ready. I imagine the Rays won't end up signing Freddy Garcia. The reports on Garcia are lukewarm, by the way.
Teams are beginning to value free agent compensation draft picks more than ever. As a result, we're seeing fewer salary dump trades. Rosenthal notes that it is possible for a team to receive a supplemental pick even without offering arbitration. That is true, but only if the free agent signs elsewhere before December 1st.
John Hart might want to get back into the general managing game.
The Rangers discussed acquiring Raul Ibanez, it seems.

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I hope Price is called up ASAP - saved up my #1 waiver in my keeper league for him!

As for the Type Bs, I totally didn't know that. Makes some trades (and non-trades) make more sense.

So, if a Type B walks (not offered arbitration), it's a supplemental pick, but if a Type A walks (not offered arbitration), nothing?

Kinda makes a Yankees' fan hope Giambi's only a type B.

Posted by: V | August 06, 2008 at 11:35 AM

It's literally an ace in the hole with Price; kid's a beast... 99 this spring, killer secondaries and he doesn't walk batters!!! Amazing

Tim, Any chance we could see a series on Type A/B FAs to-be (or projected). Would be interesting to see which teams will have the strongest presence in the '09 draft (supposed to a strong class).

Posted by: milehigh78 | August 06, 2008 at 11:36 AM

Also...gotta agree with V; that Type B stuff makes NO sense when you think about it. The Reds could get nothing for Dunn, for instance, if the decide they can't risk offering him arbitration (not saying that will happen, just a hypothetical), but the Diamondbacks can tell, say, Juan Cruz to pack his things with nary an offer and grab a sandwich pick? Weak.

Posted by: milehigh78 | August 06, 2008 at 11:42 AM

That rule came a year late for Seattle. Last year they didn't offer Jose Guillen arbitration because they were worried he would accept it (even though he said publicly he wouldn't) and they got nothing for him.

Posted by: mawasa | August 06, 2008 at 12:00 PM

Man, that new Type B rules makes a HUGE difference (and lots of sense). The Mets could have had two more first round draft picks in the offseason. One for LoDuca, and perhaps they would have been less interested in resigning Castillo if they new they'd get a draft pick (although they probably should have just offered him arbitration instead of a four year deal anyway).

Posted by: MEddler | August 06, 2008 at 12:34 PM

The whole thing is pretty confusing to me, because the CBA says an offer of arb IS required to get a pick.

Posted by: Tim Dierkes | August 06, 2008 at 01:07 PM

Tim, we are all confused. I believe thats the whole point of the CBA.

Posted by: celtics464 | August 06, 2008 at 01:44 PM

The whole thing is pretty confusing to me, because the CBA says an offer of arb IS required to get a pick.

Posted by: Tim Dierkes

It does.

Posted by: ArodSucksAtLife | August 06, 2008 at 02:28 PM

Oh just noted the Update.

Posted by: ArodSucksAtLife | August 06, 2008 at 02:28 PM

This is what Rosenthal wrote:

"Even players who project as possible Type B free agents are considered more valuable than in the past, thanks to a change in the most recent labor agreement. A team can now gain a sandwich pick between the first and second rounds for such a player without even offering him arbitration."

That is accurate, in the rare event that the FA signs before Dec. 1. Also applies to Type As.

Posted by: Tim Dierkes | August 06, 2008 at 02:57 PM

Signing before Dec 1st doesn't automatically offer a draft pick.

What really happens is the deadline to offer arbitration is midnight at the end of November 30th. Arbitration can still be offered if the player has already signed elsewhere, however, the player obviously has to decline it.

So, if the player signs early, the previous team just immediately goes ahead and files the paperwork to offer arbitration and get the free draft pick(s).

Posted by: yanksfan | August 06, 2008 at 03:44 PM

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