Pirates Rumors: Wilson, Sanchez, LaRoche

I've always liked Wilson. I saw a lot of his games when he was with Peoria in A ball. Hard to believe that was 9 years ago already.

I think they need to trade both Wilson and Sanchez. I would only trade Laroche if I got an amazing deal for him. I don't know about other Pirate fans but I know we aren't going to be good next year so I really see no harm in letting Cruz and Bixler start all year maybe sign some cheap veterans to mix in there. Additionally I wouldn't mind seeing the Pirates significantly decrease payroll and then if in '10 they think they are in position to make a run sign a "big name" guy or two.

Err, that is, "he's".

And get something for Sanchez while they still can. He's going to become quite expensive for them. Besides, it's not like they're losing on another Aramis Ramirez anyway.

"I don't know about other Pirate fans but I know we aren't going to be good next year so I really see no harm in letting Cruz and Bixler start all year maybe sign some cheap veterans to mix in there."

Committing to those two as your double play combo would be a mistake. They are completely unproven at the MLB level, and neither one projects to be anything more than solid if they reach their ceilings. It's likely that at least one of them would bomb by May or June.

The idea of signing a Grudzielanek to play second and then maybe use Wilson to trade for a reasonable SS replacement would be a more logical thing to do than let Cruz and Bixler struggle for 5 of the 6 months of the season.

What they shouldn't do is mistakenly sign guys to long term contracts who don't really fit into long term plans, like Sanchez.

Realistically though Sanchez was never going to become a part of a winning Pirates team. His 2006 was a fluke and all of his value lied in his batting average. If his BA went down he would become near worthless, and you can argue that's what happened

I don't expect them to trade Brignac for Sanchez I just said they need to go after Brignac. Why wouldn't they take a deal with Wilson for Brignac not straight up but that would be the starting point. The Rays use Wilson until Beckham is ready and by that time Wilsonis at the end of his career.

Yes with Beckham, Brignac becomes touchable, like bucsox said let wilson play in tampa until there 1st overall pick beckham will be ready!

I agree Pirateswillwinin2010,

That being said the Pirates absolutly need to cash in on Jack Wilson they already passed on Jair Jurrgens and Matt Kemp for him.

Here is my idea of the percfect off-season for the Buccos. First ship Jack to Tampa in some deal for Brignac. Trade Freddy for some pitching or a 1b. Finally try to send Laroche and some other players to New York for Cano maybe Paulino and Morgan.

Im not sold on Brandon moss completely yet. he does not show good plate discipline at all right now. the only way i think we pry Cano from the yankees is for Sanchez Andy LaRoche and maby Paulino if they would even take that. but he would be a huge upgrade in our lineup

I forgot to add a back up Catcher Robinzon Diaz, so it will either come down to Bixler or Ford as the util infielder

Sorry yanksfan1, The Pirates don't want Kennedy if they did they would have got him in the deal for Nady.

Pirateswillwin this is my prediction if the aquire Brignac as we said:

1. McCutchen LF
2. McClouth CF
3. Alvarez 1B
4. Doumit C
5. Moss RF
6. Walker 3B
7. Brignac SS
8. Cruz/Bixler which ever pans out next year

Bench:
Tabata OF
Ford 2B
Bixler/Cruz
Pearce 1B/OF
Veteran FA

Rotation:
1. Maholm
2. Snell
3. Ohlendorf
4. Lincoln
5. Moskos

Bullpen:
Beam
McCutchen
Grabow
Hansen
Sanchez
Bautista
Capps

I also think toward the end of the year that Bryan Morris might see time in the pen and Yoslan Herrera could be a sleeper for the rotation or the pen. Also if the Pirates are truly serious about being willing to sign a "big name" when they feel like they are one or two pieces away don't be surprised if they go after Felix Hernandez.

Buc Sox

Id pass on that trade. The Pirates arent getting Austin Jackson or Cano for a guy whose hit .270 for his whole life. I like the guy but he aint worth that much.

BucSox its not bad lineup but you forgot Andy LaRoche. He was like the main guy in the Bay deal. I think he has quick enough hands to play 2nd Base and i think he will convert. I agree with you on Bryan Morris i think this kid will be a stud. I was going to put him into the starting Rotation but i figure in 2011 he will be in the rotation. Snell will be gone by then probably trading him. Also the yankees wouldnt want Adam LaRoche hes not a clutch enough player to play in a town and atmosphere like that. if we could get Ian Kennedy for him that would be great, you said the pirates didnt want him, the pirates did want him but the yankees did not want to give him up so the pirates took the next best pitcher they made available.

I absolutly agree with you AA and that is why if teams are indeed interested in him I think they should explore the market for him. I heard the Twins might be intersted maybe we could get one of those young pitchers they have. Anyway I just find it hard to have faith in anyone named Laroche.

And to address what Piratswillwiniit said Adam doesn't have to be clutch to play in NY they have clutch guys they just need a guy that plays good D at first which they haven't really had since Tino and a guy that can hit fairly well.

"That being said the Pirates absolutly need to cash in on Jack Wilson they already passed on Jair Jurrgens and Matt Kemp for him."

I forgot to answer this one. Don't think for a second that the Dodgers gave a thought to giving up Matt Kemp for Jack Wilson.

jack wilson is an exc vet who could help/be a great fit for many teams, but he still has a 7mill contract so the rays are not going to give up a brignac for a contract that's bigger than most of their core players at a position that isn't a hole.jason batlett is solid. maybe he isn't as good as jw but he's not that far behind.
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