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Jennifer Brett of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution talked to Dodgers outfielder Andruw Jones, who says he'd like to come back and play for the Braves again. It's unclear from his quote whether Jones is campaigning to return to the Braves in 2009 or after that. It takes two to tango, however, and the Braves are probably looking for an outfielder who is not coming off a historically bad season. The Braves didn't even offer Jones arbitration last year.
A few weeks ago, Jones said, "I'm an everyday guy or I need to move out." However, he hasn't formally requested a trade from the Dodgers. The 31 year-old is set to earn a $15MM salary next year. He'll also receive $2.1MM of his signing bonus in '09 and another $5MM in '10.
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"I'm an everyday guy or I need to move out."
....and who would assume the liability of placing you in a lineup everyday?
Posted by: abcrazy4dodgers | October 31, 2008 at 05:14 PM
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha what a clown
Posted by: 04Forever | October 31, 2008 at 05:17 PM
He has some nerve to claim he's an everyday guy, like his historically bad stats dont count because it's him
Posted by: metzfan22 | October 31, 2008 at 05:18 PM
Andruw Jones = EPIC FAIL.
That was good, whoever came up with that rumor. The Braves can find better than Andruw unless the Dodgers are will to fork up some COIN.
Although he has always been one of my favorite Braves!
Posted by: twinsfan | October 31, 2008 at 05:21 PM
Who would Braves rather have? Maggs - .317/.376/.494
21 HR, 103 RBIs
Jones - .158/.256/.249
3 HR, 14 RBIs.
Posted by: BravesRed | October 31, 2008 at 05:23 PM
I think the Dodgers are stuck with him because of the ungodly amount of money he is making. Nobody is going to throw that much money towards an outfielder coming off his worst season of his career. Actually one of the worst seasons of anybody's career. Also, lets not forget Andruw Jones underwent a couple surgeries on a knee which may hinder his defensive capabilities.
Posted by: Tough | October 31, 2008 at 05:32 PM
I'd rather have Zito's contract from start to finish than this one from start to finish. $15 m for nothing next year: makes me happy knowing the Dodgers are paying the check.
Posted by: The Management | October 31, 2008 at 05:34 PM
Andruw Jones, pfft! What a clown. How frustrating it was to see him take at-bats away from Ethier and Kemp this year. If only the MLB contracts were like those of the NFL were teams could cut players without paying them a dime.
Pierre, Schmidt, Kent, Garciapparra and this jerk Jones would've been dropped.
Posted by: la16 | October 31, 2008 at 05:34 PM
As well as his horrific batting numbers last season Andruw Jones has the worry of the surgeries gonig agianst him also. Nobody is gonig to take on a contract for an individual that had their worst batting stats of their career and knee surgeries that could possibly hinder their defense too. I don't see the Dodgers being able to move him.
If the Dodgers are able to sign Manny and Jones bounces back this season that combination in the middle of that order is going to be amazing.
Posted by: Tough | October 31, 2008 at 05:36 PM
Thanks, but no thanks. We already have an Andruw named Jeff Francoeur. Maybe if he loses 100lbs, learns to hit, and LA eats his salary, I would be amenable to letting him audition in spring training.
Posted by: Land-Man | October 31, 2008 at 05:43 PM
OMG. Wow. This guy has some big stones to demand anything at this point. He is brutal; awful; and will make $15 mil next year? What? He should thank his lucky stars, then go on and retire and live like a rich man for the rest of his life.
Posted by: rememberthecoop | October 31, 2008 at 05:45 PM
I'm not the type who gets angry at athletes but Andruw Jones pisses me off.
He shows up to camp 30 lbs overweight, doesn't put any work in, putzs around during his surgery rehab, and has the gall to complain?
I cheered for him the first half of his half season out of pity, I will boo him out of disgust now.
Posted by: surfacetear | October 31, 2008 at 05:47 PM
We will give you Jones and you gives your broken down sno cone machine.
Posted by: CeyHey | October 31, 2008 at 05:49 PM
Give Andruw a break surfacetear, 2009 will be his last season.
Posted by: quintjs | October 31, 2008 at 05:59 PM
The problem with this is that the Braves don't have a similarly bad contract to send back and no other incentive. The only team that could be a match is the Mets with Castillo.
"If only the MLB contracts were like those of the NFL were teams could cut players without paying them a dime."
Two things:
1) I despise the NFL system, because it allows owners to basically break contracts for whatever reason, which goes completely against all tenants of fairness and contract law
2) The NFL system leads to absolutely huge signing bonuses that could cripple the smaller market MLB teams
"We already have an Andruw named Jeff Francoeur."
Sad thing is, Andruw can't even play defense anymore. His arm was little better than that of Pierre and he missed a ton of balls.
Posted by: AA | October 31, 2008 at 06:05 PM
ok, here goes my two cents for the braves offseason:
trade francoeur to the royals for some starting pitching and put andruw in right field (after the dodgers eat 10 mil of his salary), bring schafer to play center, and trade for maggs to play left. then, put diaz in the position he needs to be in (role player/backup), trade kj, tyler flowers, and a couple of low level prospects for peavy, sign smoltz to an incentive laden deal at 10 mil max, and acquire a legit #2 starter.
andruw would be a risk but i would rather see andruw in right field than francoeur. at least we would have the best defensive outfield in the majors.
here's how the starters would look:
schafer
escobar
chipper
maggs
mccann
andruw
kotchman
prado
peavy
#2 starter
jurrjens
campillo
smoltz/hanson/morton/reyes
i like it.
i am not on board with andruw being done. he has become lethargic and lazy. if he has any self-worth left, he will work his butt off this year and have a productive 2009. let's hope, for the team that chooses to hire him, that this is true.
however, the above scenario is my 2nd choice. my first choice would be to "rebuild the fan-base". the braves need some controversy in the clubhouse to stir up a stagnant fan-base. sign manny ramirez!! he'll put people in the stands, be ridiculous, piss people off, and make the braves organization something it hasnt been in 10 years: exciting.
Posted by: ryan c | October 31, 2008 at 06:07 PM
Andruw will not be playing for the Braves any time soon.
Posted by: njbraves | October 31, 2008 at 06:13 PM
Ryan C,
Braves can't afford Manny, if they want good starting pitching. I think Braves should go after Lowe or Burnett. Trade for Maggs.
Posted by: BravesRed | October 31, 2008 at 06:22 PM
I think that after next year, if he shows signs of sorting out his swing, then there's every chance he signs for the Braves cheaply.
I don't think he'll be listening to Scott Boras again.
Posted by: NickC | October 31, 2008 at 06:33 PM
"I don't think he'll be listening to Scott Boras again."
Huh? Boras made him $36 million for being a total flop. Why not listen to him?
Posted by: AA | October 31, 2008 at 06:35 PM
No way Andruw comes back to the Braves. He came out of the minors in '96 weighing 180 lbs. His last year in Atlanta he weighed 240 lbs. I don't see the Braves coming remotely close to bringing Andruw back because the last two years there he showed up in worse shape than a small town cop. In fact, I think he cost Atlanta a trip to the playoffs in his last year there because he was so awful.
Posted by: fuzbal | October 31, 2008 at 06:36 PM
On signing Andruw, it must be like millions of fans vs. one fan on to sign him again.
Posted by: BravesRed | October 31, 2008 at 06:41 PM
"1) I despise the NFL system, because it allows owners to basically break contracts for whatever reason, which goes completely against all tenants of fairness and contract law"
AA while i agree with this point on the surface, I think you're second point shows why it is not against contract law. Signing bonuses and additionally, guaranteed contracts. If the player is good enough in the NFL, he can get the signing bonus or guaranteed contract he is looking for. While it doesn’t seem like the player is really getting the "benefit of his bargain", he really is, because he bargained for a contract that was terminable at any time.
That being said, I also despise the NFL's system.
Posted by: cincy_11 | October 31, 2008 at 07:46 PM
"I'd rather have Zito's contract from start to finish than this one from start to finish. $15 m for nothing next year: makes me happy knowing the Dodgers are paying the check."
Well then you're just plain stupid aren't ya.
Posted by: Kenan and Kel | October 31, 2008 at 08:37 PM
Andruw is just going to have to accept that he'll be the highest paid player in the minors until he finds his swing again. And teams will keep running him out there because he did use to be one of the best players in the NL.
Posted by: FineHamAbounds | October 31, 2008 at 09:55 PM
Why does it seem that Wren/Cox want to get rid of Escobar? He's a good offensive player with a strong arm. Is he too slow? Or too cocky? I've been hearing they wouldn't be against parting with him and I wonder why.
Posted by: rememberthecoop | October 31, 2008 at 10:30 PM
AA,
It's "tenet," not "tenant." A tenant is someone who rents property...
And an NFL front office cutting a player doesn't violate contract law at all. People are free to contract for (almost) anything. NFL contracts obviously have provisions stating that a player can be cut with or without cause, and the unsatisfied portions of his salary are not guaranteed.
And Andruw Jones is fat. Really, really fat.
Posted by: FireJoeMorgan | November 01, 2008 at 02:41 AM
Jones has no leverage here. If he formally requests a trade, the Dodgers have to make a good-faith effort to deal him, but it will never hold up in court that they're required to pay his full salary to play somewhere else. Paying his full salary (or nearly all of it) is what would be required to foist him upon some other team, so this is a non-story.
Basically, Andruw Jones is looking for a reason not to work out. He enjoys his twinkies, and a guaranteed starting spot will mean he can eat twinkies all Winter. If he stays on the Dodgers with free agency looming thereafter, he'll forgo any shot to up his stock unless he comes into camp in fantastic shape. Sorry fatty, ya blew it when you waddled in pushing 260.
Posted by: ThinkBlech | November 01, 2008 at 03:00 AM
Don't talk crap on him, atleast he gets paid a lot of money to sit on his butt and eat twinkies.
Posted by: BravesRed | November 01, 2008 at 07:34 AM
Andruw's gonna have to show he wants to play first. He wasn't worth 1/16th of what he was paid last year. The Dodgers are gonna have to pick up the majority of that paycheck if he comes over to Atlanta. Personally, I don't want him even at a discount. He has the worst work ethic I have ever seen in any professional athlete in any sport.
Posted by: drphonic7 | November 01, 2008 at 09:17 AM
Coop, I'm also bothered by rumors that the Braves would be willing to part with Escobar. I think he would only be part of a deal for Peavy though & in that case I think the trade would be worthwhile.
Posted by: drphonic7 | November 01, 2008 at 09:20 AM
I wish Escobar will go to Detriot, he's one of the most cockiest people in baseball.
Posted by: BravesRed | November 01, 2008 at 09:26 AM
Andruw Jones is my hero. I mean how many dudes can literally do nothing and get paid that much money AND still find room to complain.
Posted by: Bank Street Grounds | November 01, 2008 at 10:24 AM
I know everyone is against having AJ back! and i can fully understand that, Here is my thing with him though. Yes he hit way below the mendoza line in a horrible year, LA just wants to get rid of him and they would eat most of his contract so why not give them a nobody minor leaguer and pick him up and have him basically audtion to make the team? You see it time and time again an athlete who gets to big for his own good and has to be humbled. What if AJ can come back for basically nothing and he produces 20-30 hrs with his 250-260 BA he had with us for all those years. What did mark kotsay do that impressed everyone, Franceour what did he do? How about Diaz, or Norton or outfield sucked. It was the worst in MLB., Am i wrong? WHy not take a chance? How many times have we done that and seen somebody ressurect their carrer? Neagle, Burkett, Wright. Sometimes we you have to take a chance, He has one bad year with the braves and everyone freaks out and kicks him out of town. If the time comes that we do take AJ back then i will welcome him back with open arms but want to see results. If he doesnt produce then get him out of town.
As far as Escobar goes, He produced pretty well last year and has a bright future. So does have the braves minor league organzation. Guys like prado, herandez who both play middle infield. With Infantes numbers last year some say he can be an everyday player. With Peavy, Maggs and others available on the trade market why not put out Escobars name he could be great trade bait.
One other thing of note why not try for Juan Rivera in Left field hes a guy whos gonna give 15/75/270 a year. Hes young inexpensive and has pretty good speed.
Posted by: bravesforlife14 | November 01, 2008 at 11:28 AM
Dodgers were stupid to ever pay a down and out player that kind of dough so they deserve to keep him and his huge contract. Next year will be his last!!
Posted by: Jaysfan85 | November 01, 2008 at 12:06 PM
andruw would be a risk but i would rather see andruw in right field than francoeur. at least we would have the best defensive outfield in the majors.
Ryan C. how do you begin to explain that any outfield with AJ would be the best defensive in MLB?
Toronto's with Lind/Wells /Rios is far better!!
Posted by: Jaysfan85 | November 01, 2008 at 12:09 PM
"AA while i agree with this point on the surface, I think you're second point shows why it is not against contract law. Signing bonuses and additionally, guaranteed contracts. If the player is good enough in the NFL, he can get the signing bonus or guaranteed contract he is looking for. While it doesn’t seem like the player is really getting the "benefit of his bargain", he really is, because he bargained for a contract that was terminable at any time."
The point is, he didn't really agree about it. The NFLPA's weak leadership "bargained" for those terms.
"And an NFL front office cutting a player doesn't violate contract law at all. People are free to contract for (almost) anything. NFL contracts obviously have provisions stating that a player can be cut with or without cause, and the unsatisfied portions of his salary are not guaranteed."
Sorry for the misspelling, I was tired.
Anyway, I didn't say it violated any law. My point was that these NFL teams can sign huge contracts with guys and suddenly cut them without reason for cap reasons, cheap owner reasons, or because the guy got paralyzed on the field while making the owner even more rich.
Posted by: AA | November 01, 2008 at 12:38 PM
LMFAO.
Andruw has zero leverage here.
Posted by: melonis rex | November 01, 2008 at 02:03 PM
If I were Frank Wren I don't think I would want Andruw even for the league minimum. He can't keep himself in playing shape and he refuses to listen to people that tell him to stop trying to pull everything.
Posted by: Brad426 | November 01, 2008 at 03:13 PM
cottster,
putting andruw in right field (a slimmer and in shape andruw), along with schafer in center, and maggs in left would be a hell of a defensive outfield. despite what you might believe, even an overweight andruw jones is better in center field than most center fielders. him in right field, an "offense first" position, would put him well above average.
from 1998-2007, andruw was either 1st, 2nd, or 3rd in the NL in outfield putouts (1st 6 times, 2nd 3 times, and 3rd once). yes he's fat, and yes he is lethargic, but his jumps are still the best in the game (he finished first in 2007 even when he was chubby).
is that enough proof? now, take that production and move it to right and you have 3 above average arms and gloves at 3 positions.
Posted by: ryan c | November 01, 2008 at 10:58 PM
I personally would rather take my chances on Francoeur rebounding offensively. He is well above average defensively (and has a much stronger arm than Andruw) and has a salary of $460K.
Posted by: Brad426 | November 02, 2008 at 10:16 AM
I think that Andrew is probably the worst player in the MLB
Posted by: BIGPADRESFAN2009 | November 02, 2008 at 10:24 AM
When is some one from the Braves, (specially the pitching staff) going to react on all this BS posting about Andruw Jones. Braves has record consecutive post season appearances because they had the greatest centefielder ever, playing EVERYDAY!! No matter what!
The only mistake Andruw made, was trying to be the "iron man" for the Braves, playing everyday for more than a decade. In 2007 he hurt him self badly, but refused to sit and continued playing hurt EVERYDAY!!
By trying to protect him self from the killing pain, when swinging the bat, he shifted and changed his battting style in such a manner that he spoiled his hand and eyes coordination completely. Than his knees started to fail him and gaining weight, did not help. Just imagen that it takes about 25.000 swings to adjust your swing. Andruw knows that he has to go back to the basics and at 31 there is a lot AJ left. He'll adjust, as he has done troughout his career. Andruw will come back because he's a warrior and a winner. he's is from Curacao....knowned in history as the island of the giants! Lately "the Boys of Summer"
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Posted by: CURCOACH | November 02, 2008 at 11:40 AM
I say give him a shot, even in his last few years the defense was still strong, and if he just comes back half as strong as he was in the past and only hits 15-20 homers he has surpassed the entire outfield total from last year
Posted by: chipper4prez | November 02, 2008 at 05:25 PM
Almost hurled when I mis-heard "LA Signs Andruw to an extension". They don't spell out first names on the radio----can Bynum play CF?
Posted by: abcrazy4dodgers | November 02, 2008 at 07:22 PM
The Dodgers aren't going to just give away Jones for a nothing minor leaguer, nor are they going to eat $10 mil. to get him off the team. At worst, they'll do what they did last season and stash Jones in AAA until he starts hitting, claiming another "injury". If he can't straighten out his swing by the time Spring Training and a month of AAA is done (or however long the maximum rehab time is), he'll be disabled with another "knee injury" for a few weeks, then put back in AAA games.
At worst, he's a defensive replacement. If he wants to be a starter, he'll have to earn it with the bat.
Posted by: DodgersBruin | November 03, 2008 at 08:27 AM
"Andruw will come back because he's a warrior and a winner."
I will personally drive Andruw back to Atlanta if you guys take him back! Incredible!
Posted by: Big Mac | November 04, 2008 at 11:07 AM