Brewers To Listen On Fielder

The A's might make sense. Getting him out of the NL. Could DH him?

God knows Oakland has the pitching

The Giants definitely will be in on the Fielder sweepstakes. They have more than enough pitching (exclude Cain, Lincecum, Bumgarner and Alderson) and will probably move Pablo Sandoval to 3B, if not back to catcher if Molina is dealt. Young arms like Henry Sosa, Ben Snyder, Kevin Pucetas, Joseph Martinez, Clayton Tanner and Kyle Nicholson should intrigue the Brewers, not to mention the Giants may try to send over either Randy Winn or Dave Roberts as well!

"the team's long-term desire to move Derek Jeter to first base after the 2010 season."

No way. Jeter will be an OF... he has no power at all to be 1B. Ever

About as good as your defense is

"How is Fielder's defense?"

About as good as Ryan Howard's.

fielder's defense isn't that terrible. He can actually pick it pretty well..has a little trouble digging out low throws, but his biggest problem is his range. He can make the play...if he gets there.

The Giants look like a great fit IMO. Cain for Fielder looks pretty even to me. Young, high ceiling cost controlled pitcher for an elite hitting 1st baseman.

Fits a need on both sides, and the Giants have starting pitching to spare.

AHH Fielder instead of Hafner,one can only hope.

"If the Yanks plan on moving Jeter, why are they mentioned in EVERY single Teixeira rumor?"

Maybe it's because the Yankees don't have a 1B, and are by far the richest team in baseball? How do you not know that?

And I also think that the Derek Jeter situation is going to start getting messy soon. Once his defense at shortstop officially becomes the worst in baseball, then the Yankees will really have no choice but to move him. But then the problem becomes where do you move him? They have to give him a spot somewhere because he's a living legend and I don't think Yankee fans could deal with Jeter being on the bench or in a different uniform. But then again Jeter would likely be an inadequate player at any position on the field, and you know his salary will still be high thanks to his reputation.

That is going to be one sticky situation.

I somehow doubt that the Brewers would trade Fielder to the Giants unless one of Cain, Lincecum, Alderson or Bumgarner is involved. I would think that Cain is the more likely target. You gotta give quality to get quality.

street
mazzaro or simmons
eveland or smith
buck or sweeney
hrod

for

fielder
3b green

mil gets a closer, a 2nd yr lefty, mlb ready sp, a flame throwing reliever, and an OF

A's dont need street
Hrod is the type of high upside melvin likes
eveland/smith, either or likely both wont be around by 2010
mazzaro outside of anderson/cahill, is the best sp in the system

brewers might prefer sweeney since he can play cf...buk has better offensive upside (if healthy)

oh yeah, apparently fiants are in running fr mike jacobs + they have sandoval/ishikawa if need be...if anything they'd prefer hardy or escobar or gamel at other position needs

lets say C bolts and sheets is too much of a risk to sign...mil 09 rotation:

not exactly dominating, they could sign a garland type through FA

parra
davis
suppan
gallardo
bush
villanueva

To the Loney question, there is no way i would trade Loney, whose a way better fielder, better contact hitter and bat about .450 in the playoffs WITH a young arm for Fielder.

I would have to guess Prince will end up staying put or going to Anaheim, even though that A's trade looks tempting.

"If you HONESTLY think the Yanks are not going to seriously pursue Teixeira then there is nothing else for me to say.
I agree with all you said about Jeter, he will have to be moved somewhere, if for no other reason than the PR issue, but the Yanks are not going to pass up on a guy like Teixeira, when they havent won in 8 years and are moving into a new stadium just to keep a spot warm for an aging "superstar", even one named Derek Jeter."

No no, I expect the Yankees to be one of the big teams in on Teixeira. I just expect the Yankees to prioritize pitching, as they should. I would expect them to throw big money at Sabathia or Burnett before Tex.

scribble,

of course Fielder is the best in that deal, he's established and known.

street isnt just a good setup reliever, when right top 10 type closer or just outside of that. would i trade him? only because A's are loaded in that area.
if you look at mil pitching depth its pretty bad.smith put up 190in/just over a 4 era in the AL. his walks were a concern and some hr's, but he was tough to hit overall.
mazzaro dominated AA and is an impact arm IMO and not far off maybe mid 09 at the earliest. i think its too early to judge the upside of sweeney/buck...obviously both have yet to have a full 500+ ab's in a season. well, if that ofer isnt enough A's have much more to offer...Doolittle, Carter, Cardenas, Donaldson, Gio, Gallagher, Gio, maybe even trade one of Cahill/Anderson...if A's wanted fielder and his contract, they have more than enough ammo to pull it off

Fielder is the type of player i would love to see with the Jays. unfortunately i dont think the Jays have what it takes to trade for him. theyre allready weak for pitching going into next season with Marcum out for the season and McGowan coming back from surgery. the only pitching they could offer is young SP or bullpen.. unless it was a 3some, er 3 way trade.

Bamabosoxfan: I think thats a very fair offer (prob just one minor player away) and def. better then anything the Yanks could offer or most teams for that matter. The one flaw is what do you do with Mike Lowell? He is not really tradeable do to the injury and still owed 26 mil over the next two years so he can't be on the bench. One idea maybe add Lowell to the deal and a lesser pitcher than Bowden or Bucholtz and kick in half of Lowell's salary. I think the Brewers would have to think long an hard about one top arm, one back of the rotation arm, a cheap 3B to help replace the offense and a CF who is an upgrade over Cameron.

"To the Loney question, there is no way i would trade Loney, whose a way better fielder, better contact hitter and bat about .450 in the playoffs WITH a young arm for Fielder."

Actually, Loney went just 3 for 14 [.214] in the NLDS, and 7 for 16 [.438] in the NLCS. But you're right, dudes who have good five-game stretches should never be on the trading block.

I kind of like Fielder to the A's, but they'd still be a bit too left-handed.

prince to Angels
for
kendrick
wood
adenhart

angels need personality as well as bat
then they can forget teixeira and take a run at sabathia

maybe LA should go for bill hall too. could play left as well as filling in for hunter CF, figgins at 3b and prince at 1b. send speier to Brews to offset some of the money.

I think that the Mariners should be considered a dark horse for Prince. With Big Z in Seattle they could work out a deal. Maybe something with Putz or Beltre with Seattle paying the salary plus some young players.

"I think that the Mariners should be considered a dark horse for Prince. With Big Z in Seattle they could work out a deal. Maybe something with Putz or Beltre with Seattle paying the salary plus some young players."

I disagree. I think the Mariners bringing on Jack Z is a sign that they are rebuilding, and trading for Fielder would not be rebuilding. They are going to build around Felix Hernandez, Jeff Clement, Jose Lopez, Brandon Morrow, Carlos Triunfel, Michael Saunders, etc. and play for 2012, not 2009.

if fielder is traded would Mil want a 1b in the deal? or is the 1b job automatically given to gamel?

maybe A"s could include in a offer any of these...

barton still only 23, although coming off a disappointing season

doolittle: 07 pick, leads AFL in HR's. GG caliber 1b w/ advanced hitting approach

carter: similar to gamel, not much defensively, still needs a position, but a masher, pure power hitter

if anything, how about a minor deal just to pry away 3b Green in AA...A's have the pitching depth to trade

Angels seem like the best fit especially if Tex walks. He'd be Guerero's long term replacement as a bat (I'm aware Guerrero will probably be an Angel for a couple more years). And hey, the power has the best chance of propelling them to the top.

That Hughes stuff was just dumb. While 2008 was certainly a lost season, Hughes was strong in 2007; great in the minors, good in the majors save his initial return from the DL. If Buchholz is somehow clearly on a higher level like you seem to imply, why is he struggling as much or more than Hughes in 2008 despite being 22 months older? Shouldn't he be more advanced by now?

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NJM: The "Hughes stuff" isn't me talking its what baseball people are saying. Its what the scouts are telling Jim Callis and BA and what others like Keith Law are saying. Simple fact Buchholtz is above Hughes right now. Bailey fell off the wagon as well it happens. I'm not saying Hughes isn't ever gonna be good or maybe even great my point is he isn't right now and there are now question marks about his future. He could just be more of a late bloomer, Volquez struggled with Texas, Danks as well, Guthrie was put on waiviers b/c the Tribe thought he couldn't do it. The point is his value is down. I mean do u honestly think Hughes has the same value that he did before 2007??? Also I never said that Buchholtz's value was at the top of the world as it was at the beggining of 08 what I said was it is higher than Hughes. I mean even the Yankees are handling Hughes more carefully, they have 3 open spots in their rotation (and their other two are held by Wang coming off a season ending injury and Joba who also has some injury concerns) and they still can't commit a spot to this supposed ACE pitcher??? It seems like other ace pitchers like Price, Kershaw, and even Gallardo are being penciled into next year's rotation of their teams. The Sox on the other hand have 2 or 1 spot (if Wake remains a starter) available and the feeling is that Buchholtz is at least in the mix for that spot and prob only has to beat out Bowden and Masterson if they take him out of the pen. So if you want to be mad at someone NJM be mad at the Yankees for disrespecting your fav. pitcher but to get all hot and bothered about my opinion that is seemingly shared by most baseball people out there.

"Hey bambosoxfan, fielder and ortiz in same lineup? let me get 2 big macs and a coke with that. They'll clog the bases like they like to clog their arteries."

Really? Was that your pathetic excuse for a cutdown? Weak, much like the Yankee pitching staff this past season.

And Steveo26, Adding Lowell wouldn't be a bad idea. However, I'm still kinda hoping someone would bite on Lugo and get him off our hands. Lowell's bat off the bench is much more effective than Lugo. Granted Lugo can play multiple positions, so I guess your idea makes some sense too. Maybe Lowell, Bucholtz, and Crisp?

And to those Yankee fans out there whining about the comparisons of Hughes and Bucholtz, you're nuts. They really have a lot in common. Both highly touted prospects, both came to the majors with a lot of pressure on them to succeed at the highest level. BOTH fell through in '08. But you can't look at one season when talking about the upside of the player's career. Personally, I dread the day as a Sox fan when Hughes finally starts pitching the way we know he can. So all this Hughes is better than Clay BS needs to rest. They're both great pitchers, deal with it.

(We need quote blocks or bold type or something. That's a disaster to parse.)

694 at bats for Fielder..?

Fielder for Lincecum? How about Fielder, Weeks and to triple A arms for Lincecum or Fielder and Braun for Lincecum and a quality middle reliever. Lincecum is awesome!

Posted by: yanksrule | October 28, 2008 at 11:06 PM
The hebrew hammer will soon hit 40-50 homers even though he is already hitting 35 in his first 2 seasons. Big boy prince has already hit 50. Lincecum is a stud, but not worth two of the top bopers in the NL.

"I'm wondering if the Brewers would trade Fielder to someone in the Central? I'd like to see the Cubs move DLee for prospects, then bundle those prospects with others already in their system for Fielder."

If Vitters is in the package, the Brewers should consider. But, it is intradivision, and thus the Brewers should without a doubt hold out for Vitters.

"The hebrew hammer will soon hit 40-50 homers even though he is already hitting 35 in his first 2 seasons. Big boy prince has already hit 50. Lincecum is a stud, but not worth two of the top bopers in the NL."

Lincecum for Braun straight up is fair.

Fielder, Weeks, and two AAA arms for Lincecum is a Brian Sabean move if there ever was one.

PS. Weeks has little trade value even for a knucklehead like Sabean. I think Weeks is very close to an offical "failed prospect" label at this point. He's more a throw in than a central character in any deal this offseason. When in a pennant race the likes of Ray Durham beats you out, well, you're not good!

I personally would like to see the Brewers trade Prince before his Production goes even lower and his bodyweight goes higher.