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The Mets made Omar Minaya's extension official today. It runs through 2012 with club options for two years beyond that. Matthew Cerrone at MetsBlog likes the decision, but feels the term is excessive.
Additionally, Minaya announced that the Mets will exercise Carlos Delgado's $12MM option for '09. This seemed like an easy decision given the $4MM buyout. The Mets were not going to find an .800 OPS first baseman on the free agent market for a one-year, $8MM deal.
On the bullpen front, ESPN's Buster Olney says rival execs expect the Mets to aggressively pursue free agent Brian Fuentes. I'm thinking three years, $30MM.
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I'm wary of the years, but extending Minaya was a good idea.
Posted by: melonis rex | October 02, 2008 at 11:50 AM
For all the reasons to not exercise Delgado's option, really I think it was an obvious choice to keep him. At $8M over one year he's a steal if he can repeat something even close to his performance this year. Really the only legitimate alternative would be to add a quality second baseman and then move Daniel Murphy over to first, but honestly overall they're better off holding onto Delgado's production and trying Murphy at second, where his bat would be really good. The problem with the Mets was never the middle of the order, Wright, Beltran and Delgado is one of the best in the league, and their leadoff hitter is also arguably top 3 or 5 in baseball. The problem is depth in the order, since the corner outfield spots, catcher and second base offered almost no offensive production this year.
Posted by: scribbletone | October 02, 2008 at 12:40 PM
I'm somewhat stunned at how Mets fans have turned on Delgado. If they got into the playoffs, we'd be talking about how he saved our season (which he partially did), recalling his huge home run surge (many of them clutch) and eagerly hoping for a repeat in 2009. But then team mails it in on the last game of the season and Delgado is chopped liver.
Posted by: ReardenTech | October 02, 2008 at 12:40 PM
(Referring to all the WFAN callers and some MLBTR commenters saying he should be traded.)
Posted by: ReardenTech | October 02, 2008 at 12:41 PM
Guess all the hysterical Mets fans on sports radio who wanted him gone to "shake things up" will be disappointed
It really is a no-brainer though for a one-year commitment. Minaya pretty much said he'd be bringing him back a few weeks ago
Posted by: wayne gomes | October 02, 2008 at 12:41 PM
I think picking up his option does make sense. But I don't think they are done with him. I am sure they are going to test the trade market with him and see what they could get for him. If nobody bites, they keep him and are no worse off. I wouldn't be surprised to see Murphy as the next 1st baseman and them signing or trading for a quality 2b. The baseball playoffs just started and this was a nobrainer for the Mets. It let's them get started as soon as the Series is over.
Posted by: YouGottaBelieve | October 02, 2008 at 01:08 PM
"At $8M over one year he's a steal if he can repeat something even close to his performance this year."
It's $12M.
Posted by: icedrake523 | October 02, 2008 at 01:11 PM
It's $12M, but there's a $4M buyout attached to it; with that buyout being a fixed cost, his salary is, for all intents and purposes, essentially $8M this upcoming season.
Posted by: google_bought | October 02, 2008 at 01:14 PM
So does that mean he'll be pocketing that $4M? Or just the $8M?
Posted by: Ink&Paper | October 02, 2008 at 01:35 PM
He's getting 16mm i think but the Fish are paying 4mm....whats trying to be explained is that if they declined the option they would have to buy it out for 4mm so either was 4mm is being tpaid to him so its more like an 8mm deal because he's getting the 4mm from the buy-out either way
Posted by: Superman | October 02, 2008 at 01:44 PM
Alright Mets fans, lets solve each others problems: Delgado for BJ Ryan (take Overbay and his gold glove D as well)
Posted by: Jays2010 | October 02, 2008 at 01:57 PM
Marlins aren't paying anything anymore, Delgado pockets a cold hard, 12 million.
From the Mets end though, it's essentially only an 8 million payout, since the 4 million buyout is a sunk cost that Delgado would have received regardless.
Posted by: AdropOFvenom | October 02, 2008 at 02:00 PM
Jays2010, I don't want BJ Ryan. Same thing I've been saying about Francisco Cordero is truth is if we were going to take on a contract that large, we'd be better off signing Brian Fuentes who is a better pitcher in my eyes.
Posted by: AdropOFvenom | October 02, 2008 at 02:06 PM
So when the Mets strikeout in getting both Fuentes and K-Rod, THEN would you guys take BJ Ryan+Overbay for Delgado?
Posted by: Ink&Paper | October 02, 2008 at 02:08 PM
I would take Overbay and Ryan for sure.
Posted by: Chris | October 02, 2008 at 02:19 PM
The Mets would be taking on way too much salary in that deal they'd be better off holding onto Delgado and finding help elsewhere
Posted by: scribbletone | October 02, 2008 at 02:46 PM
The mets would take on $17 million for 2 players - that is not much. If I were the Mets (or any other team) I wouldn't necessarily want BJ Ryan, but I'd take him in a heartbeat over dishing out 5/75 for K-rod or 4/50 for Fuentes
Posted by: Jays2010 | October 02, 2008 at 03:44 PM
I personally don't like the move. I mean sure he's taken the mets back into contention, but the way he handled the Willie Randolph firing was awful and a lot of his moves have been very questionable at best. I mean he basically gave away Heath Bell who has turned into an excellent setup man in San Diego, he also basically gave away Matt Lindstrom who's now the closer in Florida and a third giveaway was Gaby Hernandez who although he hasn't fully bloomed yet is looking lik a 3-4 type starter which is just what the mets need and in addition to that he gave away brian bannister as well who was pretty decent for Kansas City this year and a guy the Mets could have used
I guess what I'm saying is, take away the Lindstrom, Bell and Bannister deals and the Mets probably make the playoffs this year.
Posted by: CJ88 | October 02, 2008 at 04:25 PM
ummm you do know brian bannister was 9-16 with an era over 5, right? how does that help the mets?
bell sucked when he was here. he's a classic change of scenery case
the lindstrom trade was a bad one but let's remember, henry owens was part of that deal too and everyone loved his arm. where is he? hasn't pitched in almost two years. the jury is still out on lindstrom as a closer.
Posted by: FranzFerdinand | October 02, 2008 at 05:24 PM
"I'm somewhat stunned at how Mets fans have turned on Delgado. If they got into the playoffs, we'd be talking about how he saved our season (which he partially did), recalling his huge home run surge (many of them clutch) and eagerly hoping for a repeat in 2009. But then team mails it in on the last game of the season and Delgado is chopped liver. "
For real. In early september they were chanting MVP. Then the whole team shuts down and the answer is to get rid of a guy who is a lock to keep because of his contract?
The way I look at Delgado is, he should be able to produce similar numbers next year, as to this year. Even if he produces at a lower level, hopefully he will not have to make up for dreadful april through june. He put up almost all his numbers in the last 70 games. It honestly looks as if he is finally healthy. He has wrist problems all of 2007, finally got healthy in september, and broke his hand on a HBP in the last week of the season, having to have another surgery, which I guess he didn't fully recover from until July this year. Willie leaving didn't hurt. For a big power hitter like Delgado, your hands are everything. When your wrists and hands are bothering you, you can't rely on them and you have to try to start your swing earlier, which I guess caused him to swing at so many bad breaking balls. Just ask David Ortiz, his wrist is bothering him and he normally counts on his hands/ wrists to get to the ball. Without healthy wrists, his whole swing has suffered.
Posted by: nrmax88 | October 02, 2008 at 05:59 PM
"I guess what I'm saying is, take away the Lindstrom, Bell and Bannister deals and the Mets probably make the playoffs this year."
I guess what I am saying is, take away the Santana trade, the Perez trade, the John Maine trade, the non-trading of Mike Pelfrey in the Santana deal, or after when everybody in NY wanted to trade him for anybody we could get, and the Mets are not even close to making the playoffs. People still don't seem to understand that whatever you can say about Minaya, he took them from a joke to a contender in one year, to one game within a world series the next, and in 2007 and 2008, the Mets have had the best team in the division through 150 games both years. Is it his fault that they buckled with a handful of series left each year? You build a team for a long season, you can't predict a late season collapse, let alone 2 in a row.
Heath Bell SUCKED. He was flatout awful. He had like 10 different chances to prove himself in the Mets bullpen and got his ass torched every single time. He was always complaining to the media. He was a nuisance with no value, so they dumped him. Good job by Kevin Towers. Matt Lindstrom was a 28 year old minor league pitcher, with an injury history, who left to go on a Mormon misson and missed signifigant time. Good job by Florida. But I can't stand when people say Minaya should be fired because he traded away a 28 year old minor league relief pitcher, Heath fricken Bell, and Brian Bannister, who is just horrible. Acquiring Burgos from KC was a move just like KT getting Bell from us. Burgos got hurt so it didn't work out, but I doubt anybody would be saying they should have fired Dayton Moore if Burgos turned out to be a good setup man.
Posted by: nrmax88 | October 02, 2008 at 06:10 PM
I don't know, Delgado for Overbay and Ryan would be tempting for me. You fill Delgado's spot, albeit with less offense, but brilliant defense. BJ Ryan could be huge if they could keep him healthy. It surely does beat the hell out of signing K-Rod for ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS.
Posted by: nrmax88 | October 02, 2008 at 06:14 PM
NRMax,
You reassured me on Omar. The 2 straight choke jobs are heartbreaking but we wouldn't even be positioned to choke with Brian Sabean/Ned Colleti type of guys running the show.
I do hope he addresses the bullpen at the winter meetings instead of just picking guys off other teams' scrap heaps during spring training and hoping for the best. Overall, though, the Mets are right to stick with him.
Posted by: ReardenTech | October 02, 2008 at 06:33 PM
I have no issues extending omar minaya. If Wagner didnt get hurt down the stretch we might be in the playoffs. And we wouldnt be talking abtout collapses. So with Delgado in, guess that counts us out with Teixeria. Now I really want Milton Bradley. We need an impact bat
Posted by: iloveraykim | October 02, 2008 at 07:56 PM
I agree with picking up the option, but why not trade Delgado away for someone like Halladay.He's so good he helps out the rotation and the bullpen by throwing so many complete games. Delgado and Parnell for Halladay.
Posted by: shaddix | October 02, 2008 at 09:42 PM
"I agree with picking up the option, but why not trade Delgado away for someone like Halladay.He's so good he helps out the rotation and the bullpen by throwing so many complete games. Delgado and Parnell for Halladay."
I'm really sorry but this is simply never going to happen. Roy Halladay is arguably the best pitcher in baseball, and definitely the top 5. He's the definition of an ace. The Jays would never trade him for a 38 year old retread who can bat .260 with 30 homers and an average pitching prospect. To land Roy Halladay you would have to give up major league ready young talent as well as quality minor leaguers. From the Mets I think that a Jose Reyes, Brad Holt, Ruben Tejeda offer would be interesting to Toronto.
Posted by: scribbletone | October 02, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Toronto needs a cleanup hitter and I'm sure Delgado could use the Dh. Plus Toronto's not going to be able to afford Halladay in two years anyway, each team wins.
Posted by: shaddix | October 02, 2008 at 10:09 PM
I agree the mets would have to add a little more like a Mike Carp( 17 hr 72 rbi AA ), and if toronto can't make a run they could always trade delgado before the deadline for a couple of prospects.
Posted by: shaddix | October 02, 2008 at 10:27 PM
shaddix are you joking?
or are you 5?
we keep delgado and then sure up lf or 2b and our lineup is fine. 85% of any money spent in FA this offseason should be on the pen
Posted by: iloveraykim | October 02, 2008 at 10:30 PM
you won't need a pen with halladay throwing more complete games than most teams. The reality is you can't buy a whole new pen.
Posted by: shaddix | October 02, 2008 at 10:33 PM
what are you going to do buy k rod and make him save games from the seventh inning ? Its obvious they need bullpen help and getting a starter (which they also need)will lessen the work of the pen.
Posted by: shaddix | October 02, 2008 at 10:41 PM
"Toronto needs a cleanup hitter and I'm sure Delgado could use the Dh. Plus Toronto's not going to be able to afford Halladay in two years anyway, each team wins."
It has nothing to do with what Toronto needs. What Toronto needs is arguably the best pitcher in baseball! The Blue Jays will resign Halladay after 2010 for something like 3/60, and he's still under contract for two more years. He's obscenely valuable. I can't believe you're not joking.
The Mets would need to give up Jose Reyes or David Wright in order to land Halladay. Or maybe Pelfrey, Martinez and Flores.
"you won't need a pen with halladay throwing more complete games than most teams. The reality is you can't buy a whole new pen.what are you going to do buy k rod and make him save games from the seventh inning ? Its obvious they need bullpen help and getting a starter (which they also need)will lessen the work of the pen."
See but the Mets will never get Halladay, its not that easy. The reality is that the Mets may need to buy a new closer, and then patch together the rest of the pen from there. If they can lock down the ninth inning then they can hopefully figure out how to use guys like Ayala, Heilman and Joe Smith in the 7th and 8th innings. You simply will never get Halladay ever.
Posted by: scribbletone | October 02, 2008 at 10:53 PM
I dont think Fuente it the perfect Closer for the Mets.
Fuentes=Benitez
Posted by: drtrade | October 08, 2008 at 04:35 AM
It Crazzy trade Jose or Wright. That two players are the best in the Mets organization, We can trade Beltran, Delgado and other but Jose or Wright. I dont think so...
Posted by: drtrade | October 08, 2008 at 04:38 AM
Look what i do:
1. Trade Beltran to Colorado for Hollyday and Taylor Buchholz.
2. Trade Church, Smith, Castillo, Heilman and eat some castillo money to KC Royals for DeJesus and Soria.
3. Sign Juan Cruz, Rhodes and Jeremy Affeldt.
4. Sign Hudson and Manny.
5. Dont resign Delgado, Move Daniel to 1B and sign S Casey If Daniel not respoded.
6. Sign Garland and Pedro.
Posted by: drtrade | October 08, 2008 at 04:53 AM