Peavy Trade Talks Begin

Well, with all this trade talk, I have a couple of ideas, let's start with a 3 way deal-

padres get- gywnn jr., hardy,cano, nady, hughes

brewers get- peavy, antonelli,k. greene

yankees get- fielder,weeks

or

yankees get- peavy,antonelli,hundley

padres get- cano, hughes, nady,cabrera,igawa,(1) mid level prospect

or

padres get- holliday, atkins,francis,top 5 prospect

rockies get- peavy,kooz

yes, I know far fetched, but possible?

The Cubs trade proposals are ridiculous...and the Cubs bashing is getting pretty dumb too...although I have to admit, some of the fans are practically asking for it with these proposals.

IF the Cubs even wanted to go for him....which they shouldn't/don't, it would have to start with probably

Marmol/Soto
Vitters
Pie/Colvin
Thomas?

I would think that would be a good starting point, and they could mix and match. If I'm the Padres, I ask for:

Soto
Vitters
Pie
Thomas

and to me, thats just not happening.

And to whomever doesn't think Vitters is a real good prospect, you are an idiot. I'll give you Veal, Cedeno, and some of the other crap that gets thrown about...but Vitters was drafted #3 as the best hitter in the draft for a reason, and backed it up this year.

And to close, cubsland, stop being so cocky...it makes us all look like what the stereotype is for Cubs fans.

Once again, in regards to the Brewers, the Brewers would trade Hardy OR Fielder but not both. And certainly not Rickie Weeks on top of that. That would leave the Brewers with a virtually empty infield.

They have no backup right now for Fielder at first, Ray Durham would be the 2B backup plan in place of Weeks but Durham is a free agent and isn't necessarily going to stay, Alcides Escobar could come up to play SS, but he's not a sure thing at this plate and Bill Hall at 3B is absolutely useless.

I like the creativity, but there absolutely zero chance of the Brewers getting involved in a deal like that.

if you want comparisons, you should probably look at Harden, not Haren. Harden has similar numbers when healthy. Peavy will get a better package than Haren because health has been less of an issue and he isn't a rental and a half. The similarities between these is that no move has to be made. If the padres don't get what they want in the offseason, they could hold him to June and start listening again. So getting him this offseason will take convincing the Padres that there is no point that they will be able to get more value out of him. As far as they are concerned, they would be fine if he played out his contract...a good place to be...the drivers seat. It is up to the Padres what is acceptable because they have no problem with no deal.

Putting a number of prospects is stupid. It will take multiple guys that can play immediately on their major league club.
(Harden Deal...Sean Gallagher, Matt Murton and Eric Patterson all had major league experience and were ready to contribute)

For the right player...it may only take one major league ready prospect and a low level prospect. Something the likes of a deal centered around Josh Hamilton.

cubs land,

The sterotype for Cubs fans, at least around here, is that they are cocky and think their team can get anyone for the prospects the Cubs have, while over-valuing everything.

But to answer your question, The talk of mentioning how the Reds are losers etc...

They aren't that far away from competing...and I don't think there is any reason to plss people off around here just for the sake of doing it. The point of the site is to talk baseball intelligently...so don't undermine that just because you think its funny.

People like myself have to deal with others thinking I'm the stereotypical Cubs fan because of this kind of behavior...and I just want to talk some real baseball.

where is around here? what state? i am pretty sure i am closer to chicago then u are buddy

a lot of "cubs fans" in here are not real cubs fans. Its pretty funny. There aer about 3-4 people they are REAL CUBS FANS!

Mission, not very likely as Cano has very little value right now. Hughes would have to be heavily supplimented in that deal with high end prospects.

Cubs Land, its pretty clear that the Cubs don't have the prospects to land Peavy.

Saying things like, "he has a no trade clause. Would he rather play in Atlanta (having troubles there) or the cubs (who won 97 games)??" makes you look pretty cocky.

An inside source close to the negotiations has reported that the Padres are in serious talks with the Atlanta Braves for Peavy. The deal would be centered around IFs Brent Lillibridge and Martin Prado, as well as pitching prospect Chuck James.

Towers will neither confirm nor deny this, as his only comment was "it's all about the lulz."

As a Reds Fan...not only can i not see the Reds going to try to trade for him...

but if would for sure have to include Cueto...or Phillips

Cueto, Fraizer, Alonso, and another prospect is not a bad haul at all..

"where is around here? what state? i am pretty sure i am closer to chicago then u are buddy"

umm...around here is this website...its not a physical place. Where you are in reference to Chicago has nothing to do with it.

"Cubs Land, its pretty clear that the Cubs don't have the prospects to land Peavy."

I'm pretty sure Soto, Marmol, Vitters gets it done in a heartbeat...they just wouldn't want to give that up.

"An inside source close to the negotiations has reported that the Padres are in serious talks with the Atlanta Braves for Peavy. The deal would be centered around IFs Brent Lillibridge and Martin Prado, as well as pitching prospect Chuck James."

Really.. Come on you aren't honestly going to believe this? Bedard and Haren, two stud pitchers under contract for mulitple years when traded, cost MASSIVE hauls to the teams they're traded to, but Peavy, arguably the most valuable of them all, is getting moved for two potentially solid regular infielders and a back of the rotation pitching prospect? I'm sorry but my logic says that I simply can't believe that. I simply can't. Even if its published.

"I'm pretty sure Soto, Marmol, Vitters gets it done in a heartbeat...they just wouldn't want to give that up."

Oh yeah for sure. Peavy would be in a uniform by November if the Cubs offered them that. A top catcher with one year of service time, a 26 year old potentially dominant closer who's proven to be a very dominant set up man, and the best prospect in the Cubs' organization? That's a god damn haul. Honestly I doubt the Padres would get a better offer than Soto, Vitters, Pie and Marshall.

Then again, the Cubs won't ever trade Geovany Soto, so Peavy won't be wearing Cubbie blue.

You're bad at making jokes. Get funnier.

all u yankee fans are caounting on you guys to sign cc which will not happen because the brewers are going to make a huge push to get cc. cc who wants to stay in milwauke actually likes milwaukee unlike gil-0's blog watch for the brewers to make a huge splash by signing cc and traded prince for peavey

I think that people really have to realize that if the Padres move Peavy, it's going to be for guys with under two years of experience. They aren't going to trade Peavy for a bunch of arbitration eligible guys that will be expensive by 2012.

I still see the Braves as the best option, with Atlanta offering this sort of package:

- Two of Jason Heyward, Tommy Hanson, Gorkys Hernandez and Jordan Schafer
- Brent Lillibridge
- One of Rohrbrough, Locke, Reyes and James

I'm so sure that the Braves would do this. Obviously they wouldn't include both Heyward and Hanson, but they'd likely include one of them as well as one of the center fielders. It'd probably be Schafer if the Braves moved him with Heyward, considering that he's their best prospect and Hernandez is the more highly regarded CF.

Aj, honestly, you're really not giving anything of value up except for Hughes. Miranda, Aceves, Horne, Christian and Marquez (I'm assuming you meant Marquez) are really all AAA players, none of those guys projects to be anything more than a bench player at this point.

I'm not going to get all crazy, but I will say that isn't nearly enough to land the Yankees Peavy. The starting price would likely be Hughes AND Austin Jackson, as well as probably two more prospects, guys like maybe Austin Romine and Ian Kennedy. I'd say the only young players that would be untouchable in a Peavy trade would be Joba and Montero.

there is no way the braves trade heyward, hanson, or freeman. they are beyond untouchable. they are the future and will not be traded.

Cubs Land....What in the h3ll is "chocked"?

"peavy wont be traded until the the trading deadline at the end of august"

Peavy would never, ever, ever, ever, ever make it through waivers in August, I believe you mean the trading deadline on July 31st.

And honestly I wouldn't be surprised either if the Pads hold onto him until then though I'd be quite surprised if he's a Padre by 2010. Quite

is there any chance the tigers could get involved? assuming he would waive his no trade clause for them? any ideas what it would take from the tigers?

New news... sort of http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2008/oct/14/padres-peavy1420020/?padres

"Among the cities Axelrod mentioned were Atlanta, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles and St. Louis."

"Axelrod acknowledged that the Anaheim Angels are one AL club that would draw extra consideration"

So Braves, Cubs, Astros, Dodgers, Cardinals and Angels along with 2 or 3 other AL possibilities. So I guess that doesn't really narrow it down too much huh?

Too many errors in above post..
meant to say Houston drained *minor* league, not major league system (of course) of talent.