White Sox Looking To Trade Vazquez?

Vazquez would be a perfect fit for the Braves, who have long coveted him. They might also see if they can get Dye with him in order to fill two needs.

i don't think the White Sox will trade Jermaine Dye. He is one of the more atheletic players on the team and one of our better players. He's staying put.

I don't think Ozzie Guillen likes Vazquez but my question is who will fill the 4 and 5 starter spots? Obviously Broadway, Richard will compete but will Konerko be traded for a Pitcher? I see it this way.
1B Swisher
2B Getz/Nix
3B Figgins
SS Ramirez
LF Quentin
CF Anderson ??
RF Dye
I have no idea what the 4 and 5 starter spots look like.

could a chisox fan tell a redsox fan what chicago would want for vazquez (on a fair basis)? i cant believe u guys would want to trade him

Mets:
Javier Vazquez SP
Jerry Owens CF

White Sox
Luis Castillo 2B
Aaron Heilman SP
Nick Evans LF
Jason Vargas SP

No way we sign Hudson and give up a pick.

Figgins is a definate possibility.

Fields and Vasquez will go in some package for a CF or 3B. Kenny is going to try and get a star.

Giving up Poreda or Richard would be wrong. Broadway should go while he still has some value.

Loeres, the White Sox will be looking for a younger SP to take his spot, or a young speedy leadoff hitter who can get on base and swipe some bags, either an infielder (besides 1B) or center fielder. Ellsbury sounds ideal, but could he be had for Vazquez and possibly a lower-level prospect?

I'm not sure of putting Richard in the rotation. That would be three lefties all with similar styles. Don't know if they would be willing to do that, so I would expect either a signing or trade for a SP if Vazquez does indeed leave.

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Chicago White Sox
Javier Vazquex

Boston Red Sox
Ellsbury (untouchable)
lester (untouchable)
Bucholz maybe?

I like all 3 of those guys but they seem untouchable."

Boston won't give up one of those three for Vazquez. Lester is already a far better pitcher, and Buchholz and Ellsbury are simply too valuable to be moved for Vazquez.

I like the Braves as a potential fit. Would something like Vazquez and a prospect for Kelly Johnson and Jo-Jo Reyes work?

And if the White Sox sign Orlando Hudson, that would be a massive mistake. Metrics say that his defense has been steadily declining, and his bat doesn't warrant the contract he's going to receive. And when you consider that the Sox would lose their draft pick as well, it simply makes no sense at all whatsoever.

I do like the Coco Crisp idea.

What about something like this: Javier Vazquez and Lance Broadway for Coco Crisp and Nick Hagadone?

The White Sox get a CF, as well as a pretty good pitching prospect. The Red Sox get a good starter and a solid young pitcher.

I think the White Sox should make moving Vazquez and Konerko top priority

"Unless the Sox are targetting a FA starter (I could see Oliver Perez being a target) or trading for someone, the Sox won't be able to both trade Vazquez and compete."

They want to get rid of Javier Vazquez and you think they would do so to bring in Oliver Perez?

Are they a glutton for punishment? Cuz If they're frustrated with Vazquez they ain't seen nothing yet.

Seriously though I like Vazquez, but he's the kind of player who would probably get eaten alive in NY. Reputation of coming up small in big games, one poor stint in NY already, over/under of 3 months before he becomes a public enemy.

Thoughts on a Vazquez for David DeJesus swap?

Williams and Dayton Moore have been willing to trade within the division before, and this seems like it would benefit both teams.

Keep in mind that Cowley is an idiot.

"Chicago White Sox
Javier Vazquex

Boston Red Sox
Ellsbury (untouchable)
lester (untouchable)
Bucholz maybe?

I like all 3 of those guys but they seem untouchable."

The only one who Vazquez could POSSIBLY bring in from that group is Buchholz. Lester is a superior pitcher already and Ellsbury's talents are too strong to trade away. He really looks like the new Steve Finley.

RE:
Reds Get-
Vasquez
Dye

White Sox Get-
Phillips
Dickerson
Malony

I like this trade but instead of Chris Dickerson I would want them to add Homer Bailey.
Now someone make the call

CHISOX21, why the h-e-double toothpick would the red sox do that? So they can start Lugo next season? Their bullpen is shakey as it is.

Sox Machine posted a decent proposal - Javy to Brewers for Weeks. I think the Crew would have to toss in a prospect but it could happen.

8/10 scenarios, though, Vaz is on the Sox next season.

Konerko has no trade value. At all. He's an overpaid bench player at this point. I feel like he's the Varitek of Chicago; old, but a centerface of the team, and valued more on a personal level.

Javy and a top prospect to Colorado for Adkins would be intriguing.

"I hate it too. We'd likely need someone better than Hagadone along with Crisp for Vazquez. Coco's not an all-star."

Coco's not an all star and Vazquez hasn't put up an ERA + of 100 4 of the last 5 years.

If boston starts offering prospects better than Hagadone in addition to a passable starting CFer I would absolutely hate that deal.

I don't like the idea of phillips out and dye in.

Vazquez showed that he isn't someone who can be counted on in big games, so he is way overpaid as a 4/5 starter.

How about Vazquez for AGon straight up, have the white sox send some money over. (or send freel and AGon, 11 mil each side for 2009, reds cover vazquez's 11 for 2010)

show me where poreda projects to be a 4/5 starter?

Vazquez and Dye would fit in perfectly with the Braves but they would probably want the sun and the moon for both.

The Konerko = Varitek is right on the money.

Especially if you consider the production ratio between 1B and Catcher.

As I Sox fan I laugh at all of the trade proposals involving Konerko that yield big time names in return.

Mike Jacobs who hit 32 homers last year, is six years younger and makes 1/10th the money just yielded the major slam dunk return package of Leo Nunez.

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Javy Vazquez was the White Sox #1 pitcher coming into '08, and really he didn't even struggle that much. A bad late September and October and people want to deal him. Geesh.

I hope Kenny has a tad more restraint.

The Jays likely won't part with Hill.

Rolen and Vasquez make pretty much the same in terms of contract and years. There isn't much out there in terms of free agent third baseman other than Crede. The Jays would want Fields and would part with someone from the bull pen.

Good lord people, Boston would have repeated if they hadn't been bitten by the injury bug. The last thing they need is Javier Vazquez.

Beckett, Schilling, Lowell. You might think thats not much, but those are three major pieces from the 2007 team, gone or at reduced capacity.

Daggins

Imagine if the White Sox were healthy in the playoffs?

Quentin and Crede
add a much better upper cut to the lineup than Uribe and Dewayne Wise.

Completely agree with MPM. Konerko, when healthy, is still a 25 to 30 HR guy. I don't think he'll get close to .300 again, but he's a perfectly acceptable guy to play some decent D at first and hit 5th.