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5:01pm: Scott Miller of CBSSports.com says the Rockies are prepared to turn around and trade Street to another team.
4:08pm: Gonzalez confirmed his inclusion in the trade in a phone call to Jorge L. Ortiz of USA Today.
3:42pm: A Rockies spokesman told the AP that talks are fluid, and "everything's speculation." Heyman is now aboard with Gonzalez/Smith/Street as the package. Seems solid for one year of Holliday and the accompanying draft picks.
3:20pm: Susan Slusser spoke to Smith, who is flying to Denver for a physical. She agrees that Street and Gonzalez are the other two players.
2:54pm: ESPN's Jerry Crasnick confirmed Smith is in the deal.
2:39pm: Troy Renck says the A's had been offering Street and Gonzalez. Meanwhile ESPN adds Ryan Sweeney and Gonzalez to their mix of players discussed.
2:30pm: Brown says the two teams have agreed in principle to a deal that will send Gonzalez, Smith, and Street to the Rockies.
2:24pm: The ESPN report now says Brett Anderson was under discussion as well as Smith.
2:03pm: The ESPN guys talked to A's assistant GM David Forst, who said, "It's still an ongoing discussion."
2:00pm: Ken Rosenthal chimes in. The deal may not be finalized for about 48 hours. Players discussed over the weekend: Carlos Gonzalez, Huston Street, and Smith. Rosenthal says the A's do not plan to flip Holliday or trade him in July. Rosenthal also says the A's could increase payroll to as high as $80MM, which could mean $25-30MM to play with.
1:57pm: ESPN's Buster Olney and Jerry Crasnick say the two teams have agreed to terms, and believe pitcher Greg Smith was under discussion.
1:51pm: Yahoo's Tim Brown also says a deal is close.
1:27pm: According to SI.com's Jon Heyman, the A's traded for Rockies outfielder Matt Holliday. More as it comes in!
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I wonder how this is going to effect Jason Giambi?
Posted by: BklynYanks | November 10, 2008 at 09:35 PM
However as someone already said, he's always missing a key piece. Even the years when the A's were a good team, they were missing something that made them a great team.
Exactly. It is much easier to turn a bad team into a good team then it is to turn a good team into a great team. Beane knows this first hand and with these two steps up one step back moves he keeps making it looks like he doesn't even want to try.
Posted by: MPM | November 10, 2008 at 09:53 PM
The Beane-bashing here is mind-boggling really. There are 25+ other organizations that would kick their current GMs to the curb if they could grab Beane away from the A's. I guess Mark Shapiro is also a fool and Pat Gillick and Kenny Williams geniuses. Yeah let's completely ignore economics and the fact the A's play in the same league as the Yankees and Red Sox.
Posted by: vtadave | November 10, 2008 at 11:13 PM
That's why I don't like all deez rumors, haha, i heard nothing of Matty being with the A's. All of the things people say never matter, because something new always comes up (not trying to be negative though, keep spittin your thoughts, haha.)
YANKEE DYNASTY!
Posted by: More Rings Than Your Team | November 10, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Great trade for the A's. They really needed a bat.
Posted by: Calriver | November 11, 2008 at 12:33 AM
This trade made Angels fans cry.
Posted by: Athletic Domination | November 11, 2008 at 01:55 AM
dear stats geeks: whatever the numbers. holliday can smack a baseball.
i'm running a team i want him.
as for my beautiful A's, I just don't see how he makes sense in white shoes at this time.
the year before, with haren and harden at the head of staff, maybe yeah.
unless they make a package that gets them jeff baker (a sleeper 3B) and maybe franklin morales
Posted by: crash | November 11, 2008 at 02:40 AM
Sure, the As needed a bat but they have mediocre pitching right now.
Posted by: yankfan1 | November 11, 2008 at 08:08 AM
Yankfan1- who cares what they have, they just picked up a monster bat. If the Yanks just made this trade, you'd be doing backflips and you need the pitching just as badly as they do. I think this is a good trade by Billy Beane and I am pretty surprised with the amount of bashing he's taking on here. The guy has worked with a miniscule payroll for years yet continued to field competetive teams. Sure, his trades seem odd and the haul hasn't been ideal, but with payroll restrictions, he has to keep selling off these players and at the same time attempt to restock a farm system. Give the guy a break. And I think it's highly comical that some think he's a bad GM because he hasn't won a ring. Give me a break.
Posted by: Papelboner | November 11, 2008 at 08:47 AM
do you guys just look at names and assume they are good
this isnt the same street from 2005...he's had nagging injuries. good, but not great closer. A's didnt want to pay him the 5mill+ he'll make in arby and already have in house replacements with devine/ziegler. they tried to trade him in july with no takers
smith- typical back rotation lefty. bad control, flyball pitcher. not a good fit in coors. will A's miss him? well, they have gio, braden, outman, etc as mlb ready options. with cahill/anderson/mazzaro/simmons etc right behind.
i dont think A's will miss either pitcher
Gonzalez- hardest one to give up.tools off the charts, but still raw. i love his upside, but A's situation in cf isnt horrible. sweeney/cunningham are 22/23,will be solid players
A's have more money to spend + didnt touch their farm system...we'll see hat the following moves are...they are far from done
Posted by: arly2380 | November 11, 2008 at 09:09 AM
I guess the average drunk fan prefers the florida system. Where you are purposefully terrible for long periods of time to give yourself a shot at competing for a while. The most remarkable thing about beane is how consistently competitive he has been able to keep that team. He lost some heartbreakers in the randomness that is the playoffs then many poached his system and those teams had a lot more resources. What is key is that money allows you to remain consistently competitive. Beane has done this without money and the main problem here is that mlb has created a system where it is counterproductive to try and compete for these low payroll teams. Sure there is always one near the top in any given year but they cannot maintain it. You all are essentially bashing him for trying to field a more competitive team next year which seems contrary to your initial analysis.
Posted by: walkoffblast | November 11, 2008 at 11:21 AM
"This trade made Angels fans cry."
You are delusional.
Posted by: AA | November 11, 2008 at 01:07 PM