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4:12pm: Dave Cameron sees a net loss of 1-2 wins for the Cubs, swapping out Wood with Gregg.
2:18pm: GM Jim Hendry says the Cubs will part ways with lifetime Cub Kerry Wood. Replacing him with Gregg should save the team a good $6MM. The Cubs just couldn't pony up a huge multiyear deal for Wood.
1:06pm: The Miami Herald's Clark Spencer says the Marlins will receive relief prospect Jose Ceda in return. Seems pretty good for one year of Gregg.
12:57pm: According to Ken Rosenthal, the Cubs acquired Kevin Gregg from the Marlins today. It seems that Gregg could become the Cubs' setup man for Carlos Marmol if Kerry Wood departs.
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Lee doesn't need to be traded! He needs to move into the 2 hole where his OBP can be taken better advantage of. He's a doubles/OBP guy now, not a 40HR guy. If we put Lee at #2, it gives a major boost to our team makeup.
Posted by: Bdlugz | November 13, 2008 at 03:29 PM
Hendry and the crappy backloaded deals he made the past 2 offseasons now are starting to rear their ugly head. I'm pissed. Cubs have no identity to me now, other than a bunch of overpaid whiners who know nothing about what playing for the Chicago Cubs means.
Posted by: layo22 | November 13, 2008 at 03:30 PM
Lou really says he won't move Soriano? Is this recently?
Posted by: studio179 | November 13, 2008 at 03:30 PM
Yet again the Cubs make a trade with the Marlins.....hasn't Hendry learned anything yet.....If the Marlins want one of your pitchers say no! Ceda will end up being good, like Mitre, Pinto, Nolasco, and Willis. You have to give it to the Marlins they know pitching talent when they see it.
Posted by: bdss24 | November 13, 2008 at 03:31 PM
As a huge Cubs fan, I have to say two things: (1) I am impressed that Hendry finally let a guy go when he felt like it was better for the team fiscally (he tends to keep everyone he likes or sets his eyes on) and (2) It is real tough knowing Woody will not be a Cub next year. He is the Chicago Cubs like no player since Sandberg was a Cub (Sorry, I don't include Grace in this discussion). Woody - wherever you go, I hope you win a title, and I hope you nail down the final out.
Posted by: cycub | November 13, 2008 at 03:31 PM
the cubs are crazy gregg is a bum i seen him ptich against the mets a million times he stinks..........i hope the yankees sign wood and make him the setup man/ replacemnt for mariano
Posted by: TheBigNewYorkeR | November 13, 2008 at 03:31 PM
Are you kidding me? Putting Lee in the two hole is the worst idea ever.. everytime we lead off a game with the runner on he'll turn it into a short inning with a double play.. just because Lee gets on base does not make him a two hitter.. he is WAY to slow and would be a terrible two hitter
Posted by: Cubsfan25 | November 13, 2008 at 03:32 PM
yeah, i heard that a couple weeks ago. it only makes sense to keep Soriano fresh and get more production from him. Plus, he cant be a leadoff hitter much longer, hes not getting any younger.
Posted by: clarknaddison | November 13, 2008 at 03:32 PM
Ill look for that link from Pinella. I saw it about 2 weeks ago, but I'll be damned if I remember where. He basically said this was a 97 win team and they won 97 games with Soriano as the leadoff guy (not accurate due to injury, I know), and there was no need to change that now.
Posted by: Bdlugz | November 13, 2008 at 03:33 PM
It appears Gregg is Marmol's back up if he falters. This and saving money, getting 2 picks and going after other areas.
I'm not sorry in saying Ibanez, Abreu or Dunn do not thrill me. Maybe I'm wrong.
Posted by: studio179 | November 13, 2008 at 03:33 PM
PEOPLE, the redsox and yankees arent going to dish out 10mm+ for wood as a setup man. Get real...im pretty sure he wants to close and will sign with a team to close games.
Posted by: clarknaddison | November 13, 2008 at 03:34 PM
"I'm not sorry in saying Ibanez, Abreu or Dunn do not thrill me. Maybe I'm wrong."
me niether, but there isnt much out there....
Posted by: clarknaddison | November 13, 2008 at 03:34 PM
We know the cubs can get to the playoffs but when it comes to going all the way i'd like to see a true lead off hitter instead of soriana he was 1 for 14 with NO walks and four k's common now thats terrible for a lead off hitter
Posted by: Cubsfan25 | November 13, 2008 at 03:36 PM
I might want to add that I have been saying the Cubs might not get Dempster or Wood. I never felt either is a lock. That being said, I also was hoping both come back. Although, not 5 years for Dempster, either.
Posted by: studio179 | November 13, 2008 at 03:37 PM
"He is the Chicago Cubs like no player since Sandberg was a Cub (Sorry, I don't include Grace in this discussion)"
I'm curious...why don't you include Grace?
Posted by: Aduncaroo | November 13, 2008 at 03:38 PM
Get ready to watch new Brewer closer Kerry Wood go 7 for 7 in save opps next year vs. the Cubs
Posted by: layo22 | November 13, 2008 at 03:39 PM
Well, after looking for that link all I can find are links saying it's doubtful Soriano will lead off in 2009.. maybe it will surface somewhere, or maybe I was having a nightmare... time will tell!
Posted by: Bdlugz | November 13, 2008 at 03:39 PM
Well, Wood is all but gone, Ceda is gone and Bdlugz is saying Lou won't move Soriano down because the team won 97 games. What a day.
I think I'm about done with the Peavy talks. Make it happen, Wren.
Posted by: studio179 | November 13, 2008 at 03:41 PM
I'll answer for him: Grace bad mouthed the Cubs after leaving, bad mouthed and childlishly mocked Sosa, and now was recently kissing management butt when it looked like the broadcaster job opened up. He's even talked about how he's underpaid as a D-Back announcer.
Posted by: layo22 | November 13, 2008 at 03:41 PM
Do the Cubs have the pieces to get Peavy any more?
Posted by: wickedwitch | November 13, 2008 at 03:43 PM
I can't see the Cubs getting Peavy.. I think their next priority is signing back Dempster.. then after that working on Dunn.. I'd like to see Dempster back and let Peavy become a Brave
Posted by: Cubsfan25 | November 13, 2008 at 03:44 PM
Let's offer multiple people with desserts for last names and if they aren't hungry enough, walk away. Too bad we already traded Rocky Cherry... he'd have worked for either food or potential porn star.
Posted by: Bdlugz | November 13, 2008 at 03:44 PM
"I'll answer for him: Grace bad mouthed the Cubs after leaving, bad mouthed and childlishly mocked Sosa, and now was recently kissing management butt when it looked like the broadcaster job opened up. He's even talked about how he's underpaid as a D-Back announcer."
I actually liked and still like Grace. He says whats on his mind and always had. He bad mouthed Sosa? Seriously? You are mad about that? So did everyone...his teammates hated him. They bashed in his boom box with a baseball bat...
Posted by: Aduncaroo | November 13, 2008 at 03:45 PM
Horrible trade for the Cubs this guys garbage...I remember the one blown save against the Mets he had 2 outs with no one on and he loaded up the bases and gave up a grand slam to Carlos Beltran.
Posted by: JT89 | November 13, 2008 at 03:51 PM
as a rangers fan, i sincerely hope they make a decent bid on wood. he's from grand prairie i believe (like 15 minutes from the ballpark) and he'd be a great arm for the bullpen. i know he has had the arm troubles, but he seems like a pretty good fit for texas.
Posted by: tmoney352 | November 13, 2008 at 03:51 PM
Speaking of Grace, he left and won a ring. Maybe Woody gets his ring somewhere. Sorry, as a Cub fan, I had to throw that in there.
I just hope he signs in the AL. I can't bear to see Wood in a Met, Cardinal or Brewer jersey.
Posted by: studio179 | November 13, 2008 at 03:53 PM
please don't fire me.. just a thought: Could the Astros take Gregg and create a 1-2 punch with Valverde and part ways with Brocail or maybe flip Valverde to other teams that need a closer??
again, just a thought
Posted by: aznboi89x | November 13, 2008 at 03:57 PM
Word is from Stark that they Cubs don't want an outfielder thats going to be making 15 mil a year *cough* Dunn *cough*...so I hope everyone likes Raul Ibanez.
Posted by: Aduncaroo | November 13, 2008 at 03:58 PM
Your predicting that Dempster just had his best year, the truth is still obviously unknown.. And I only said we should re-sign Dempster is because I truly believe Peavy is going to Atlanta and if this happens I think Dempster is our next best for the staff next to Peavy
Posted by: Cubsfan25 | November 13, 2008 at 04:06 PM
Wood to the Mets? I'd rather have him than just about everyone else available besides K-Rod. It's just that's he's so fragile...you know what, it doesn't matter. K-Rod's a Met for 4/56 by Christmas anyways.
Posted by: metsobsessed | November 13, 2008 at 04:16 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see him go to the Mets...and I think he will be much cheaper. Plus, the Mets pick isn't protected...so I'm rooting for it to happen!
Posted by: Aduncaroo | November 13, 2008 at 04:20 PM
Personally.. I'd like to see K-Rod stay in the AL it's alright enough to have Lidge on the NL side being an unbeatable closer
Posted by: Cubsfan25 | November 13, 2008 at 04:25 PM
Really not happy with this deal as a Cubs fan. Jose Ceda has big upside as a reliever and really isn't that far off, and I would've expected them to at least try and package him to land a better player than Kevin Gregg. I mean, he's a good reliever, but I just don't like moving Ceda in this deal.
I think this is probably a sign that the Cubs expect Andrew Cashner to end up in relief, where he belongs anyways.
Man, Hendry better spend that money well.
Posted by: scribbletone | November 13, 2008 at 04:29 PM
Somewhere Teetz is debating suicide...
Posted by: Aduncaroo | November 13, 2008 at 04:31 PM
I talked to Samardzja (however you spell that) and he said that he is going to be moving into the rotation and Abreu is going to be acquired (is his guess)
Posted by: bronx | November 13, 2008 at 04:31 PM
"Dave Cameron sees a net loss of 1-2 wins for the Cubs, swapping out Wood with Gregg."
I think I said this earlier...and the Cubs now have about 6 mil they saved to make up for it. I think thats definitely possible.
Posted by: Aduncaroo | November 13, 2008 at 04:39 PM
"I talked to Samardzja (however you spell that) and he said that he is going to be moving into the rotation and Abreu is going to be acquired (is his guess)"
Uhh.. what?
There have already been reports that the Cubs don't want to give $15M a year to an outfielder, and guess what Abreu's asking price was? $15M per for three years.
And I actually like Kerry Wood for the Mets. He'd probably cost less than K-Rod and give you basically the same production, and he's a pretty interesting name as well.
Posted by: scribbletone | November 13, 2008 at 04:44 PM
Bronx, do you often talk with people you can't spell the names of?
I'd guess if we aren't willing to spend money on Dunn we wont spend the money on Abreu.
Posted by: Bdlugz | November 13, 2008 at 04:46 PM
Scribble,
Now that we know Wood wont be back, this was a good move by Hendry. Gregg should be a great setup guy for Marmol...plus the Wood money can be spent to upgrade RF.
Since pitching exclusively in relief the last two seasons, Gregg has stranded 32 of his 36 inherited runners, an 88.9 percent success rate. He has setup man written all of him.
Posted by: clarknaddison | November 13, 2008 at 04:50 PM
I fine with not keeping Wood from a purely baseball standpoint, but I hate giving him up from an emotional one because he was always just so fun to watch. he might have had the sickest "stuff" of anyone to come up since I've been alive. That pitch he threw to end the game in his 20k game was out of freakin control...
Also, Ceda might be better than Gregg right now
Posted by: Aduncaroo | November 13, 2008 at 04:53 PM
So the Cubs traded Ceda for a guy who would have been non-tendered if the Marlins couldn't work out a trade?
What a horrible trade for Chicago.
Posted by: MorneauVP | November 13, 2008 at 05:18 PM
aduncaroo - sorry, i did not mean to knock grace with what i said. I'm still not in love with the guy, though, I always thought he was kind of an arrogant jerk, but I know that cubs fans love the guy. Heck, I even have an autographed 8x10 of him, but for me, in the past 40 years, the names that bring about "cubdom" for me is Billy Williams, Fergie, Ryno, Kerry. In about 5-10 years, I hope that Sammy is included in this, to the shagrin of some. Blah, I blabber too much.
Posted by: cycub | November 13, 2008 at 05:25 PM
Dont be ignorant...They wouldnt non tender him...he had plenty of interest.
Posted by: clarknaddison | November 13, 2008 at 05:27 PM
I know he did, and I know it wouldn't come to him being non-tendered.
I'm just saying, the Marlins stated toward the end of the year that Gregg would either be non-tendered or traded.
He's not worth Ceda. Not even close.
As for this K-Rod quote (rant coming, but it drives me nuts):
"Personally.. I'd like to see K-Rod stay in the AL it's alright enough to have Lidge on the NL side being an unbeatable closer"
Since when is K-Rod unbeatable? K-Rod isn't even one of the top 5 closers in baseball...
Soria
Nathan
Papelbon
Lidge
Rivera
All had unquestionably better seasons than K-Rod, and you can make a case for others. He just had the lucky benefit of being on the Angels. If you put any of the five closers on the Angels this year, with the seasons they had, they would've at least matched K-Rod's 62 saves, and probably picked up a few more.
Francisco Rodriguez is probably the most overrated player in baseball right now.
He was 12/15 in WHIP among the top 15 closers (in terms of saves) in baseball.
Only Sherrill and Lidge had a worse BB/9 rate among those 15, and Lidge made up for that by having a ridiculous K/9 rate of 12.2, compared to K-Rod's 10.3.
He wasn't nearly as "dominant" as he gets credit for.
Posted by: MorneauVP | November 13, 2008 at 05:33 PM
closers are overrated. just ask billy beane, look what he got for billy koch.
Posted by: Hoffpauir Hour | November 13, 2008 at 05:48 PM
The Cubs 2010 pen might not be that bad. We'll probably have Papelbon, Carpenter, Shafer, and Cashman ready by then.
Posted by: cubs4ever | November 13, 2008 at 07:05 PM
If this is Gregg for Ceda... bad deal. Ceda has real potential to be a massive relief stud. The idea of a bullpen featuring Marmol, Smardie, Hart, Ceda, and Papelbon within the next year or two was simply grand. Everyone of those guys could turn into something special to at least some degree in a relief role. The only requirements beyond that would have been a couple of solid lefties.
Posted by: Unlitedsoul | November 13, 2008 at 07:05 PM
Oops! I put Cashman and I meant Cashner.
Posted by: cubs4ever | November 13, 2008 at 07:08 PM
I am not so sure everyone should jump all over Hendry here. I think us Cub fans have some emotion for Wood and it is a natural reaction to feel down about a guy like Wood no longer being a Cub. Now that it has sunk in for me, I feel the trade itself is not a slam dunk against the Cubs. I can see it from both sides of the discussion. Some guys are just bashing and not offering any analizing of the trade. Maybe Hendry did get fleeced. Maybe Hendry did something that was bold and the right move to make.
How often do Cub GMs or Chicago GMs hold onto a guy too long. Fans get angry a GM gets too attached. You can't get anymore attached than Hendry and Wood. Yet he seperated that friendship for the business side of it and the team. Time will tell. I commend Jim Hendry at taking a stand and not doing what us fans (most) would have thought so easy or a sure thing this offseason.
Posted by: studio179 | November 13, 2008 at 09:08 PM
I think the Mets sign Wood to be their setup man and still bring in K-Rod to be the closer.
Posted by: JT89 | November 14, 2008 at 03:09 AM
"I think the Mets sign Wood to be their setup man and still bring in K-Rod to be the closer."
Holy s**t! How much brain power did you put into that post?
Thats about the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
Wood isn't going to be a cheap setup man, and K-rod is going to be the most expensive closer on the market. So you are allocating about 20m per year for two closers? The mets need STARTING arms. Two closers (+ Wagner maybe coming back by seasons end) is by far one of the dumbest things I have ever heard
Posted by: Charged | November 14, 2008 at 04:01 AM
"Wood isn't going to be a cheap setup man, and K-rod is going to be the most expensive closer on the market. So you are allocating about 20m per year for two closers? The mets need STARTING arms. Two closers (+ Wagner maybe coming back by seasons end) is by far one of the dumbest things I have ever heard"
Actually it's not the dumbest thing ever. The Mets need the bullpen help. I believe Wagner is likely out for all of 2009, and aside from Wagner the Mets have almost no bullpen. The Mets only need a 4 & 5 starter, and that won't be that expensive.
Posted by: cubs4ever | November 14, 2008 at 07:31 AM
the more i think about this move the more I'm pissed as a Phils fan. Jim Hendry did you have to make our lives more difficult by putting Ceda on the Marlins. Is there any doubt that he'll be their setup man within a year. He and Lindstrom (if he keeps his head on straight) could be a tough duo.
Posted by: philsWSchamps | November 14, 2008 at 08:34 AM
I don't think Wood will sign to be a setup man...just a hunch.
I had nightmares last night that he ended up as a Cardinal or Brewer. I will personally throw up if it happens...but think about it. Both teams are pretty much desperate for one and could get Wood for what the Brewers paid Gagne last year...although he would probably require 3/30.
Posted by: Aduncaroo | November 14, 2008 at 09:42 AM
I'm kidding about actually having nitemares...but you get the point.
Posted by: Aduncaroo | November 14, 2008 at 09:50 AM