Heyman's Latest: Manny, Martin, Jenks

What would it take for the white sox to acquire Wright/Reyes and Murphy? Woulf Jenks, Vazquez, and others be able to get it done? Or would trading Vazquez for a package surrounding Murphy be more reasonable?

Buehrle probably left 20-30M on the table to resign with the Sox.

And yeah...no way the Mets move Wright AND Reyes. Did you mean one or the other? I could MAYBE see Jenks and either Dye or Vazquez for Reyes, but even then...pretty unlikely. It's nice to dream though. Reyes is awesome.

Pretty unlikely doesn't even begin to describe it...the mets won't be trading wright or reyes.

Mark Prior took less to go the Padres in '08... oh wait...

why would the Mets trade franchise players like Wright/Reyes for a fat pitcher and a player in Vasquez that has a 4 ERA?

Roy Halladay gave the Jays a "thanks for sticking with me when I was sent back to 'A' Ball" discount. Next contract should be for HUGE $$$$$

Yea good point, Mark left a lot of money on the table to come back to the sox but he wasnt yet a free agent.

Paul Konerko during the 06 offseason, had two offers that were better then the whitesox offer, the orioles and angels each topped what the whitesox ended up signing him for.

Arroyo took a pay cut to stay with the Red Sox... then they traded him, heh.

I think the majority of players would rather play somewhere they like rather than just take the highest offer. Obviously at some point though the money wins out and that point is going to be different for each player.

is this a joke? has this gm not heard of the so-called hometown discount? happens all the time, as has been pointed out so far...

Concerning Jenks, has nobody noticed his strike out rate has been falling for years?

2005, 30.3%

2006, 26.7%

2007, 22.5%

2008, 15.6% with a 3.44 fip, that doesn't make him an elite closer option any more

There's more to closing than just strike outs. Jenks gets the job done and doesn't blow alot of saves. He's got a pretty good ERA for a closer, better than most and he's still young. The sox should keep him, sign him long term, or as long as reinsdorf will allow. If any team were to pry him away, they would have to offer alot.

Yankees offered Bonds and Maddux more money when they were FA. Maddux signed with Atl and Bonds signed with SF.

Baltimore offered more for Konerko, Guererro, Lee and Pavano. Its not that they won't spend money. Its the players that didn't take it.

Back in the day both Puckett and Hrbek left a bunch on the table to stay in Minny.

And Latrell Sprewell left a whole lot on the table to take 3yrs/21mil from the T-Wolves...um...wait a sec...

Andruw Jones took a hometown discount when he signed his first big contract with the Braves.

Chipper has reworked his contract several times to free up money for the team.

And didn't Joe Nathan take a little less money to re-up with the Twins last year.

o's were the highest bidder for vlad and konenro as well

I don't see the Mets getting Jenks because I think that Kenny Williams will ask a lot for him at the end of the day, but I wouldn't mind seeing him closing out games in the ninth inning in Queens. He's a tank and he has been one of the top closers in baseball in his first three and a half years in his big leagues.

Scribble, I'd take that trade in a heartbeat player-wise for the Mets, even though I don't think the White Sox would trade both Vazquez and Jenks for two relievers and F-Mart. However, it would be a whole lot of salary going the Mets' way without much relief.

Kerry Wood also turned down Milwaukee's offer last year it was the same offer they gave to Eric Gagne except it would have been a 2 year contract instead of a 1 year contract. First year was the same as what Gagne got this year. I can't remember what the second year would have been I believe it was more.

The majority of players who signed contracts pre-arbitration left money on the table. Even if it didn't turn out well, they knew they were leaving money on the table by signing.

The list just got long.

Jenks has been one of the most effective closers over the last three years. But he doesn't pass the "eye test" as an elite closer. Kenny Williams does a good job of trading his pitchers right before they get hurt (Garcia and McCarthy) or show signs of declining. If I was a GM and Williams offered me one of his pitchers, I would run away from that deal.

I will punch Andy MacPhail in the face if he signs Manny! Why in God's name would Baltimore make a play for a ridiculously expensive, absurdly unstable, and illogically redundant (as mentioned, OF is pretty much the lone bright spot- along with a certain catcher- for the Birds), aging superstar? Does Angelos think he's Greek or something? Aaaaarrgggghh! We need at least three starting pitchers- two for the rotation and one to go down with a season-ending injury (happens every year)- and a shortstop. We're finally making some progress...don't f it up now!!!

"What about Javy Vazquez, Bobby Jenks and a lower level prospect for Aaron Heilman, Fernando Martinez and Pedro Feliciano?"

Why in the word would the White Sox do that? They arent rebuilding.

"If I was a GM and Williams offered me one of his pitchers, I would run away from that deal."

Lol may be the smartest post yet.