Olney On Braves, Peavy, Burnett

"Jon Garland, Oliver Perez and Ryan Dempster as alternatives."

No, no, and no.

Yes, both the Braves and the Padres need this trade. The only reason it's not happening is because Kevin Towers is a jackazz. He's changed players he wants and the Braves have complied. He's sitting around with his thumb up his azz & I commend Frank Wren for moving on.

Yeah, Bonderman is available for the right price... what are you offering for him?

If the Braves offer is atleast for 4yrs and $70 million, I think they will have a legitimate chance of signing him.

"Jon Garland, Oliver Perez and Ryan Dempster as alternatives."

Agreed. Other than *MAYBE* Garland, the Braves would be better off and much safer offering a 1 year contract to Paul Byrd and probably get better performance W-L and innings/EEA wise over Pereze for certain and maybe even Dempster.

Like I said before other teams are a better match than the Yanks, but that doesn't mean that other teams will give up their prospects. Its not about who has the best prospects, its about who will give them up. We saw this in the Santana deal.

Gosh darnit...cant the Reds get in on this....? Could the Reds possibly get something done without giving up Volquez/Cueto/Votto/Bruce....?

I would give up Votto if i was getting Gonzales back too...

If anyone thinks the Braves cannot acquire a great player... I only have one word: MADDUX.

The Yankees and Red Sox do not have unlimited resources. They may have greater resources than most teams but they are not all powerful. Plus, if they were so savvy, they would have the best player at every position, but clearly that's not case is it?

Despite their bloated payroll, the Yankees really s.ucked last year didn't they? Not saying they will next year but you can't buy a championship, i.e. Florida Marlins, Minnesota Twins, Colorado Rockies, Tampa Bay Rays. You can assure yourself a playoff position and be a pretty darn good club but... Need I say more?

The Braves have a good chance to land at least two decent pitchers even if the last name doesn't start with "P". The Braves aren't looking to win it all next year you know. They are looking to the future and have always been a very smart ball club.

braves wont get burnett and lowe, yankees are gonna bid heavy on everyone from what it seems, with giambi, moose, and andy coming off the books thats just extra money they got to spend. Braves dont NEED to do this trade but the alternatives besides dempster arent bad. Garland will be fine and just look at it this way, how many braves pitchers have we had recently pitch 32 games and win almost half? Plus he would be pitching in the NL so his ERA wouldnt be so high. I dont like Oliver Perez much but the pitchers he named outside of dempster are solid pitchers and Perez's agent is Boras. I think its the best that we get these guys instead and then put some of the money left filling the vacancy in left field.

Yes, both the Braves and the Padres need this trade. The only reason it's not happening is because Kevin Towers is a jackazz. He's changed players he wants and the Braves have complied. He's sitting around with his thumb up his azz & I commend Frank Wren for moving on.

lol

Gosh darnit...cant the Reds get in on this....? Could the Reds possibly get something done without giving up Volquez/Cueto/Votto/Bruce....?

if i remember, the pads said they werent interested in bruce and baliey. not 100%, but i thought that report came out

"The Yankees and Red Sox do not have unlimited resources. They may have greater resources than most teams but they are not all powerful. Plus, if they were so savvy, they would have the best player at every position, but clearly that's not case is it?"

Boston does have the resources and also EXACTLY what Towers covets most in exchange for peavy: Young top pitching prospects + a center fielder with unlimited potential whom has many years before FA status. Fortunately for Boston IMHO, peavy has seemingly decided that he only wants to maybe play for th Angels and Yankees in the AL and Towers cannot attempt to wrangle a Ellsbury, Masterson, Bowden, or Bucholz combo away from Boston in exchange for him.

while Peavy would further make the rotation the Sox have one of the top 5 in BB, there is really no need to give up such an abundance for him and peavy has done a great favor I believe in not wanting to go to Boston and saving these outstanding players, like Ellsbury and Masterson whom have already shown there worth and the red sox can go about working on a Catching replacement for varitek, along with maybe a power hitter instead of this Peavy nonsense.

The angels can very well afford peavy if they want him with a good rotation already in place, but why? They already once again have an outstanding starting staff and why give up the farm, or a Howie Kendrick plus when the rotation in place is good even with the loss of Jon Garland?

Certainly the Yankees could uses Peavy, but are they willing to give up Hughes, jackson and others? The farm system they have is not exactly bursting at the seams with quality prospects at the mid-upper levels and Towers does not give his players away.

This just brings everything back to the Braves, or maybe back to the Dodgers, both of whom have the prospects to acquire Peavy and are on his "I'll go to" list as teams that have the top, young talent that it would take.

I have a feeling that Mr. Peavy will be playing for the Padres until at least the July 31st trade deadline.

"Mr. Peavy" will not change his teams at the deadline that he chooses to play for, Braves and Cubs will lessen their offers, than Towers is all out screwed.

"I personally wouldnt be to disappointed if the Braves just aquired two mid tier starters.

say Garland and Wolf/Byrd, and then just use Jair like the young Ace he is. "

Garland is a #4-5 starter. He's not much better than Jorge Campillo. He'll get paid like a really good pitcher though, which he isn't.

Why in the world would the Cubs not do everything in their power to trade for Peavy and let Dempster walk? Then trade Marquis to anyone willing to listen for a AA prospect?

what in the world happened to "the train has left station" concerning trading peavy. I feel like the padres will end up trading him because i dont see the braves being able to get two of burnett, lowe, and dempster so they will have to explore the trade options and peavy will still be out there. I cant honestly see him ending back with the padres next year after this last month

I love how the Cubs think they're going to trade for Peavy because the Braves are out, even though the Braves package that was turned down is head and shoulders better than anything the Cubs can offer.
I love how the Braves fans say that the Pads are screwed. Towers said he wanted 2 SPs a SS and an OF from the beginning. All had to be close to the majors, with one SP ready for the bigs.
The reason Peavy originally was going to be traded was because HE requested it. He asked to be traded because the Padres were losing. It wasn't because the Padres didn't want his salary. He's still reasonable this season, and with the divorce of the owner, he'll have to sell half of the club. That will all be fixed by next season, meaning salary won't really be an issue by then.
Towers had a clear idea of what he values Peavy at and hasn't been willing to settle for less. And I commend him for it. Even if it does keep Peavy in the NL West.

oh, wait, that's supposed to be sarcasm...

you see what bkoke did there, he thinks all us braves fans think towers is d.ouche b/c he kept stalling...agreeing and then changing...agreeing and then changing...like a 4 year old. he thinks that, and then says what he thinks we're thinking...like he agrees...

you see that...hahaha

too bad we're right.

I don't understand why everyone seems to be betting on Dempster collapsing. 14 blown saves over 3 years is pretty impressive. And he has good stamina his K's and BB's/9 were similar last year as they were when he was closing. I think he found the talent everyone knew he had and re-converted and figured himself out. -3ERAs are hard to come by. I'd take a chance on him over Burnett personally.