Steinbrenner Ready To Offer Burnett, Lowe Contracts

Do they plan on re-signing or replacing Abreu?

They need pitching but they have to at least be conscious of the fact that they have other needs as well.

If Swisher plays right field theyll need a 1st baseman and with all that money tied up in pitching they wont have the coin to sign Teixeira.

If Swisher plays 1st base which is more likely they could aim for a list like Anderson, Bradley, Baldelli, Patterson etc but its not likely that theyd have enough to sign guys like Dunn, Burrell etc.

And what about a DH?

Isnt Hideki Matsui going to DH? And the Yankees should re-sign Abreu.

I could see the yankees signing burnet, but i know he wont be as valuable as his contract. He could be good but 16 mil is overpaying him. I think he will go the national league. As for lowe i dont trust him isn't he getting up there in age

this is exactly why i hate the yankees

Yankees are so g.a.y.
Rotation
CC
Peavy
Burnett
Lowe
Wang

Bullpen
Joba
Hughes
Fuentes
Street
K-Rod
Affeldt

Damn so much envy and hate for the Yanks why so? because they have a need for pitching and they are trying to get it?. Please all Yankee haters what do you want the Yanks to do then. I hope they don't sign Lowe.

The Yankees are making a bid to become like a National League All-Star team... pretty on paper at every position, but always just a bit short.

Line up for next year right now
...forgot DH

C - Posada (hopefully)
1B- Swisher
2B-Cano
3B-A-rod
SS-Jeter
LF- Damon
CF-Cabrera or Gardner
RF- Nady
DH- Matsui

"I think it’s going to be mutually beneficial to us and for these particular players that we’re after for them to join the Yankees.”

Hank is such an arrogant prick.

C-washed up
1B-well below average
2B-flash in the pan
3B-good hit, out of position defensively
SS-worst def SS in the league
OF-laughable

I like it.

"I hope they sign all those guys. It will just make it all that much funnier when they all get fat and lazy, blow out their arms, have the worst years of their careers, find out the AL is not as easy to pitch in as the NL... and the Yankees fall on their collective faces again."

All of the pitchers they are trying to get have pitched well in the AL except for Peavy

It was a given the Yanks were going to lose their minds this offseason, but they're are smarter ways to do so (if that statement makes any sense).

The Yankees gotta get away from this All-Star at every position crap. It hasn't worked for the past 7 seasons and never will. Gotta get younger, more flexible, and stop blindly handing out blank checks to everyone on the market. They can spend all the money they want, which they will, but that strategy hasn't won anything.

Wow...so many Yankee haters. Seems like jealousy to me. I love how everyone seems to think their team and owner is just too poor to afford talent. We all know that's bullsh it. Majority of the owners have one goal in mind, and it's to make money. Don't hate on the Yankees and the Steinbrenners for putting that money back into the team and trying to win a title. You can bit ch all you want. Payroll clearly isn't as important as you all claim, as we've seen in the previous seasons...TB, Colorado, etc. So if we want to spend $200 million to try to put out a winning team, then so be it. STFU and stop complaining. During our glory years in the 90s we won with homegrown talent with Bernie, Jeter, Pettitte, Rivera. So keep saying we "buy championships" all you want. It just makes you look like an idiot because that isnt the case. Our ballooning payroll hasn't gotten us any titles. I'm not exactly sure what you all would like the Yankees to do about their pitching for next year. We need pitching, so we're signing them.

Wait so Hank isn't going to make offers that do not financially benefit the player or team?

I'm glad he cleared that up

"Wow...so many Yankee haters. Seems like jealousy to me. I love how everyone seems to think their team and owner is just too poor to afford talent. We all know that's bullsh it. Majority of the owners have one goal in mind, and it's to make money. Don't hate on the Yankees and the Steinbrenners for putting that money back into the team and trying to win a title. You can bit ch all you want. Payroll clearly isn't as important as you all claim, as we've seen in the previous seasons...TB, Colorado, etc. So if we want to spend $200 million to try to put out a winning team, then so be it. STFU and stop complaining. During our glory years in the 90s we won with homegrown talent with Bernie, Jeter, Pettitte, Rivera. So keep saying we "buy championships" all you want. It just makes you look like an idiot because that isnt the case. Our ballooning payroll hasn't gotten us any titles. I'm not exactly sure what you all would like the Yankees to do about their pitching for next year. We need pitching, so we're signing them."

In another post a yankee fan corrected me.

He said that you don't buy championships you guys just try to and there is a difference.

I laughed because either way if you're spending 200+ million, and outspending the closest competitor by 50 million, you should be winning.

It's just kind of sad that you aren't. Hell it isn't even funny anymore, just pathetic.

(And yes I'll expect something about 26 world series and 13 straight play off appearances)

How come we never here about Hal Steinbrenner?

(And yes I'll expect something about 26 world series and 13 straight play off appearances)

Actually no. The number of championships we've won is great, but professional sports are a "what have you done for me lately" business. No one gives a sh it if you won it all 10 years ago...hell even 1 year ago. When April comes around, it starts all over. You can't have a championship hangover and say...oh we won it last year it doesnt matter. Thats not how it works. You go out there every year and try to win it. This is what the Yankees do. Year after year we try to win it all. We know what the playoffs feel like so its not a big deal if we make it. Our only goal is to win a championship...which is because of our successful history.

You people have some serious problems. Why the hell are you wishing injuries on people? Is your hatred of the Yankees so bad that you cannot stand to see them do what every team SHOULD be doing.

"Did you see that in my post?"

Exactly my point.

Hilarious. That trade to the Brewers is going to be a gold mine for CC.

Pre-trade, he was 6-8 with an ERA dangerously close to 4 runs per 9. In the NL, against inferior hitters who didn't know him, he cuts his ERA in half and and is all but unbeatable as he throws way too many pitches in an effort to build value in a contract year. If he's back in the AL next year with a guaranteed $150 million, he'll resort to his Capt Cheeseburger ways and get lit up.

Peavy will never match his NL success in the AL.

Lowe's last two years in the AL, his ERAs were 4.47 and 5.42. Then he goes to the NL and suddenly looks good again and has his best year as a Dodger in his contract year. Yep, it's a coincidence, I'm sure.

At the beginning of 2008, Burnett was considered a bust in Toronto. Mid 4s for ERAs and couldn't stay healthy. So he finally stays in the rotation one full season (and still has a very un-ace-like ERA of 4.27) and now he's someone you want to throw big money at? Go for it, Hank!

aj burnett had a 4.07 era jimcrikket

you mad?

By the way, the standard retort for a yankee fan is some mention of 26 world series and 13 play off runs.

It's just the way it is

It makes me sick that the Yankees can go out and think that they can buy every big name free agent.

free agency is supposed to be spending people

the yankees can buy whatever they want- they pay luxury tax for it so you little teams who cant win 70 games get money to spend on free agents and guess what?

YOU DONT

You're right... looking at the wrong column in baseball-reference.com

The point remains that Burnett was ready to be run out of town after his first two seasons in Toronto... now he's Mr. Popular. I hope the Yankees get him, and the others.

its not like the blue jays were going anywhere even if aj burnett was a annual 18 game winner- to many injuries to bullpen, and especially offense

JimCrikket,

Since these four pitchers are so terrible, should they just move/stay in the NL or just quit baseball outright?

/sarcasm <---just in case

I remember when my dislike of the Yankees was tempered by a sense of disbelief -- disbelief in the quality of the line-up, its depth, the power. But this line-up I'm seeing for next-year? My god, beyond A-Rod who is there to be afraid of?

"I remember when my dislike of the Yankees was tempered by a sense of disbelief -- disbelief in the quality of the line-up, its depth, the power. But this line-up I'm seeing for next-year? My god, beyond A-Rod who is there to be afraid of?"

thats the point- can you see anyone on the 90's yanks or the 2008 devil rays that was a truly intimidating presence at the plate?

Another thing... are you all just ignorant or just don't want to think about it because it doesn't involve the Yankees? We didn't start this whole idea of insane contracts. The Rangers are the ones who gave AROD a 10 year, 252 million contract in 2000. And what about Zito's 7 year, 126? They are the ones who set the precedence for paying an assload for pitching.

I can understand anti-Yankee sentiments that can be debated or supported, Kenan and Kel, but when members create these comments out of spite of Yankee fans or to incite anger and frustration, that is when I draw the line.

"kenan and kel- why are you hatin on my statement then- the red sox spend money as well- and pay luxury tax?"

Because once again I merely pointed out that in my opinion when you're outspending the competition by such a wide margin it's pathetic when you don't win.

Some Yankee fan jumped down my throat, and sparked this little debate.

If anyone is going to complain about the Yankees using their hard earned money to both make a profit and improve their product, maybe you should bust Tim's balls for making a buck and improving this site through all the rambling hatemails you all post. Good God. In Pittsburgh, they'd LOVE to have this problem, they simply don't have the resources. But if they did, you bet your collective a***s that they'd ne after CC, Tex, et al. The rest of you need to at the very least, get your High School GED's before posting here or anywhere outside the McDonalds website.

Because once again I merely pointed out that in my opinion when you're outspending the competition by such a wide margin it's pathetic when you don't win.

Ok... and you're innocent right because you only had a measly 133 million? Last I checked you didnt win it all either so I guess you're pathetic too.

"Okay, the Yankees won more world series titles than the Red Sox in the 1900s... Who has more in the 2000s?"

oh yeah thats a good argument lets compare 100 years to 8.

"Ok... and you're innocent right because you only had a measly 133 million? Last I checked you didnt win it all either so I guess you're pathetic too."

See this is what I mean, so bitter and angry.

Well 133 million is less than 200 million. Right?

You're not the right person to make that argument then. Let the low market teams say that if thats the case. The fact that you have the 2nd highest payroll, regardless of how far behind, makes it asinine for you to argue about anything related to money. You're talking about 50 million to a team that is worth billions.

"My comment about the 26 world series was dead on, read some of these Yankee posts and you'll see it's become an automated response for incensed Yankee fans. It's too easy to piss you guys off and on top of that the majority of you welcome criticism because of that patented new york arrogance."

It's an automated response because it's the only accomplishment some Yankee fans feel they can fall back upon, unfortunately. However, there are some really insensitive people who'll continue to bash them, so what else can they really state? Yankee fans get upset so easily because they are constantly ranted upon. If you ruffle the feathers enough times, you'll get an unorthodox reaction.

"You're not the right person to make that argument then. Let the low market teams say that if thats the case. The fact that you have the 2nd highest payroll, regardless of how far behind, makes it asinine for you to argue about anything related to money. You're talking about 50 million to a team that is worth billions."

I didn't say I was the "right" person to make this argument. I made it because I felt like it, I don't think your approval is necessary for that.

I have the Sox at 4th highest to begin 2008, but I just found that via the internet so I'm not sure how reliable it is. I know that if Boston started spending an additional 75 million, to become even with the yankees, I would EXPECT a title. If Boston started outspending the Yankees by 50 million I would EXPECT a title.

My point, once again, isn't that spending money is wrong. It's that ya'll CONSISTENTLY outspend your competitors by a wide margin, 60 million dollars is a lot. To say it doesn't matter how far behind you are is a joke, 50 mil= a lot of talent.

"If you ruffle the feathers enough times, you'll get an unorthodox reaction."

Right, but if you're also an arrogant jerk and talk down to other fans, you're going to have your feather ruffled.

You combine the hate for the yankees with the arrogance of their fans and you have the makings of some insult-laden posts.

"you cant say the Red Sox dont have the same goal."

Agreed, and if they were spending 75 million more dollars, that expectation would increase.

and dont say only yankee fans are arrogant you should read other posts on here from red sox fans

anyone remember red sox dynasty? =)

"anyone remember red sox dynasty? =)"

We certainly have our share of idiots, that guy chief among them.

It's just much easier to piss of a Yankee fan, because it takes one mention of payroll or recent success.

Personally, I realize this is the internet. I'm not nearly as much of an ahole in real life, but here it's just kinda fun to be a little irksome.

"the goal is to win it all, but to expect it? please..."

So we're in agreement..

Here is the one Expectation i have of the Yankees and the Red Sox. they will both be able to compete with the very best of teams. thats it.

It's a vicious cycle.

agreed kenan and kel the internet just makes it easier for everyone to hate each other especially when it comes to yankees/red sox

and to the mets dude- i honestly believe the mets lack too much of a farm system to compete anytime in the near future- it was already fragile before the santana deal and im being completely unbias here- i would sell now if i was GM but then again Omar Minaya is absolutely killing you guys

I swore I wouldn't comment on this board anymore because there are just WAY too many Yankee haters that know absolutely NOTHING about baseball or econ in general (ie - Kenan and Kel) but I'm putting a quick 2 cents in and then getting back to the Rutgers game.

First of all, the Red Sox are in the top 3 in payroll every year...and you've won a total of TWO titles in 90 YEARS!! You want to look up the definition of "pathetic" and you'll find the Red Sox logo. The Yankees have been in (until this year) 13 straight playoffs and won 4 of the last 12 WS. Obviously, our history of success...the winningist sports team of ANY sport...can't be trumped by the Red Sox no matter how many idiotic neuvo riche jag0ff fans tossing "but we won one more recently" comments you want to throw in. Your team cannot and will NEVER compare to what the Yankees have accomplished - PERIOD.

Secondly, anyone with a brain in their heads HAS to know that it takes more than spending the money to be successful in ANY sport. The Yankees have the highest payroll because the OUTBID everyone else. That doesn't mean they have $200 mill in TALENT. If CC is worth say 15 mil per and the Yankees pay him 25 mill per to come here vs staying in the cushy NL...that doesn't mean he's necessarily a 25 mill per pitcher. Furthermore, if he goes out and gets hurt after 5 games and is out for the year...are the Yankees "pathetic" for that signing...or is it just bad luck or maybe lack of conditioning on the PLAYERS part? The answer is obvious...except to the morons who would come on here speaking about "payroll".

Was Giambi a 25 mill talent this year? How bout Andy at 16 mill? Pavano's 12 mill? (lol) Do we get a break on the payroll chat with ARod being out a month? How bout Matsui and his 13 mill being out most of the year? Same with Jorge? How about the Yankees rewarding Jeter with a silly 20 mill contract for coming up clutch so many times. Is he still (or was he ever) a 20 mill player? Bottom line with the Yankees...just because they have a 200 mill payroll, doesn't mean they have 200 mill in talent...and also, no matter how much you pay for talent, they still have to stay healthy AND then perform. It's called common sense.

Bottom line...having money to spend is obviously a nice luxury...but one that the Yankees and their fans have EARNED and we are all sick of apologizing for it. If your teams fans don't support the team or your owner is too cheap/greedy to put money back into the team, touch SHEET. You ignorant Red Sux fans that come on here day after day and do nothing but insult the Yankees and their fans and a total joke. You wasting your time on here instead of your own teams board SCREAMS jealousy! Either that or just makes you look so pathetic that you have nothing better to do than to start needless arguments. Your team has won twice in 90 YEARS. What in God's name can you possibly think you have to brag about? lol

Now, Yankees fans...do yourselves a favor and just ignore the trolls and happily chat about how were gearing up for yet ANOTHER dynasty.

jjyankeesfan2, I love you.

Obviously a large payroll doesn't come with a guaranteed championship, so what is everyone who is upset really upset with?

If anything, the absurd spending of the Yankees (and other teams) has actually led to a positive change in MLB.

So many teams have been priced out of Free Agency, that they have put their efforts towards player development.

IMO, this move towards increasing development is resulting in more talented/competitive teams all over MLB.

I think most teams have realized that you can't rely on building a team through free agency alone.

As a fan of the game first and my team second, I love the offseason/rumors, but I also really enjoy when my team succeeds with kids they have brought along themselves.

and by succeed, i don't necessarily mean win titles, I mean put a good product on the field that can be competitive every night.

"having money to spend is obviously a nice luxury...but one that the Yankees and their fans have EARNED"

OK just when I thought I was done laughing my ass off in this thread, this kind of thing gets said!

The Yankees have money for one reason and one reason only... it's called geography. If being located in the biggest market and thereby generating the most TV and other revenue is "earning" it, ok fine. Congratulations.

But that pretty much sums up the mentality of every New Yorker I've known and worked with... that just being from NY means you're entitled to more than anyone who isn't. At that mentality is exactly why everyone else has two favorite teams... their own home town/region team and whoever's playing the Yankees (though Bostonians and their Red Sox fans are fast becoming just as loathed as NYers... keep up the good work, you'll get there).

Now, back to football... have a good evening, all.