Third Team In Peavy Deal: Orioles?

As for a Boston/San Diego trade I cant see a match.

owning 2 percent of the team doesnt prevent you from being fired. the board can remove him from his position. they just cant take away his share of the team

You people can argue all day and night about who has the best farm system, but the bottom line is the Braves offered more than anyone, but Wren backed off because Towers tried to pull one on him. Yeah Peavy, go to the Cubs and we'll welcome you to Turner Field with, well you know! This thing has gotten beyond silly and rediculous!!

Truth is red sox/padres are great match on peavy but peavy holds all the cards and does not want to go to al.

"i would rather have rich harden,are you crazy?

i would take 150 innings of 2.20 era and keep my other kids.

there has to be one year where harden only makes one trip to DL and gets in 200 innings. harden has the best stuff in baseball when healthy"

didn't u read my last comment 661dodger??

How about Greene for Marquis? Marquis's contract would be half paid.

AirmanSD are u a padres fan??

i was talking to which ever cubs fan said that. but i know the money is a problem.

if Chicago had greene, they should use greene and switch Theorit to 2nd base

Just trade greene to someone else, O's maybe? There was other teams looking for SS help.

rougesaw: i'd want more than Marshall for Scott. I think marshall is a fine pitcher but the O's have a ton of those already and if they wanted a lefty like that why not keep Olsen?

Can someone go to the Braves website and log on to Dave O' Brien's blog... all I'm getting is a message that says error. THANKS

and brett favre is a punk.

how did this get brought up?

then moores is the board. and can remove him. and so can moores wife if she gets a stake in the team or sell it off. my point is 2 percent ownership is not job security. i dont need to know a damn thing about the pads to know that

BigPadresFan: Greene would not be an upgrade. Between Theriot, DeRosa, and Fontenot the Cubs have a solid middle infield. Greene honestly isn't an upgrade over any of those guys. Not even taking his contract into consideration (Now Greene is a better SS than Fontenot would ever be) it would be a bad deal for the cubs. Yes the Cubs could use an Upgrade at one of those posistions (i.e. Furcal, Roberts) but they are looking for a star type of player and honestly a leadoff hitter so they can move Soriano down in the order.

steveo i think you over value luke scott and i dont see olson succeeding on our team. marshall maybe. plus moving scott frees up space. im less interested in pie as i am in giving nolan a crack at the bigs and giving montanez some at bats

Greene's power would be great at SS in any other park than Petco. In Camden he might hit 30-40 HRs. He'll never get on first base but he'll be trotting past it all the time. That's just my opinion.

Greene will not be traded until all of the free agent options are off the board, and some team that missed out needs a SS. He is not an upgrade after the season he just had.

Moores is something that we are going to have live with, who is going to buy the team in this economic climate?

Big Pads Fans-I think that the padres farm system is underrated and the top 20 prospects should be:
1.Kyle Blanks
2.Cedric Hunter
3.Mat Latos
4.Kellen Kulbacki(if healthy, he would of been number 2
5.Eric Sogard
6.Will Innan
7.Matt Anothelli
8.Steven Garrison
9.Allan Dystkra
10.Jaff Decker
11.Jeremy Hefner
12.Andrew Cumberland
13.Yefri Carvajal
14.Sawyer Carroll
15.Stephen Faris
16.Chad Huffman
17.Mitch Canham
18.Felix Carrasco
19.Casor Ramos
20.Matthew Buschmann

The Padres system is not underrated. They lack top of the rotation starters in AA and AAA. They lack athletic players and power arms. Jim Callis says they are between 15-20. Alderson and Fuson suck at drafting players.

as i bleed cubbie blue, from a cubs fan's perspective, this deal is not a steal for the cubs-the padres could be getting some pretty good prospects from the cubs-for example, josh could be vladimir guerrero at 3rd base in a few years. don't be so down on yourselves, padres fans

i dont like him becuase he is a punk that doesnt get on base. makes too many errors. etc. rather have izturus or get a guy like john macdonald

you seriously over value him. your lucky if baltimore gives you kam mickolio for him.

i wasn't around in the 60s or 70s so i couldn't tell ya. but i also know you can't really compare sports in the 21st century (again, fiscally/competitively) to what it was 40 years ago. and the sox did have competitive teams in the 60s and 70s. wait, this isn't a bashing of the pads, it's that i don't understand. look at the yankees. people bash 'em. they haven't won in almost a decade. (give me a minute, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh). but at least they attempt to put a competitive team on the field. the angels try. the mets try. detroit (ha) tried, etc...when a team/owner gives up on the team/city/fans, it makes no sense to me.

http://www.rototimes.com/mlb/news.php?tqid=4767&type=news&nid=114649

that looks like canerous behavior

And how does punching a wall in frustration = clubhouse cancer?

i really don't keep up with the pads, but doesn't greene stink? i mean, when i heard of the possible crisp/greene swap, i died a little inside.

and for the cubs fan..............my condolences (is that spelled right?)

Padres farm system is going to be right if they put get a superstar number 3 player in the 2009 draft

"josh could be vladimir guerrero at 3rd base in a few years."

The Cubs organization has a bad habit of grossly overhyping their prospects based on tools alone. Vitters is certainly a great contact hitting prospect with a lot of room to grow into power, but it's waay too early to be comparing him to Vlad. At the same age, Vlad was hitting for more power and OBP and contact rate. Just because a player hits for high contact doesn't mean they are automatically Vlad G, a probable Hall of Famer.

"this is crazy but

brewers:adrian gonzales, clay merideth
padres:brandon wood,weaver,gamel, and salome(sp)
angels:fielder
too much? too little?"
this deal could work but its never going to happen becuase padres say that Adrian is untouchable and I don't think angels would trade Brandon Wood and I think he is untouchable like Tommy Hanson is untouchable in Atlanta

Peavy should not be traded still in my mind and try to trade him next season

is anybody here??

Padres should do something after the winter meeting and make a lot of trades

Based on this report http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081129&content_id=3695822&vkey=news_bal&fext=.jsp&c_id=bal&partnerId=rss_bal
the deal might look like something like:

Orioles get Pie.
Cubs get Peavy.
Padres get Vitters-Olson.

I don't think it make sense basemonkey that trade

If I tried to weave in some other objectives, I might make it look like:

Orioles get Pie-Marquis-Greene.
Cubs get Peavy-Roberts.
Padres get Vitters-Olson-[Cubs prospect].

If I'm the Angels I offer:

Weaver (immediate #1/#2 starter on the Pads - earned >500k)
Rodriguez (1042 OPS in AAA - 23 YO 2B/SS)
Willits (cheap CF/LF)
Mathis (cheap starting C)
Brown (953 OPS in AAA - 25 YO 1B/3B/LF)

That's 5 players who could immediately all start for the Pads. Weaver would be the only one that would add any salary at all. Weaver and Rodriguez have upside to be significantly above average. The others project to be LA or slightly better.

This deal makes sense if the Padres want to field an inexpensive team right now. I would do the Braves deal if they want to stock the farm with kids that won't be ready until 2010 or beyond.

ok I see who would be the cubs prospect be basemonkey

Vitters-Olson-Samardzija would be a nice nice haul for Peavy.

basemonkey

youre not being serious are you?

If I modified that deal again it would be:

Orioles get Pie-Marquis-Greene.
Cubs get Peavy-Roberts.
Padres get Vitters-Olson-Samardzija-Flaherty

How about:

Orioles get Pie.
Cubs get Peavy.
Padres get Vitters-Olson-Samardzija

that could work maybe one more player to the pads

how about this one:
Orioles get Pie-Marquis-Greene.
Cubs get Peavy-Roberts.
Padres get Vitters-Olson-Samardzija-Thomas or Cedeno or Theorit

Padres needs are:
2 pitchers from number 2,3 if jake is traded
2nd base,shortstop and outfield and offense offense and more offense and speed too

Is Sean Rodiquez a great player? Is he almost good as brandon wood?? who would u compare him as a player?? plz answer

technically, charlie zink, jeff bailey and kevin cash all started, at one point, for the team who beat the "100 win team". so i'm not sure what your point is.

Brandon WOod or S-Rod who is better?

Brown is not as good as Wood. Of course, Wood has been rated in the Top 10 for overall prospects in the past.

You are looking at a 300/20HR hitter if Brown hits his stride. More likely, he's a Casey Blake type player - 275 with 15-20 HR's.

As for the Angels even before a potential Peavy trade ... in the 2009 Bill James Handbook he says the Angels are, "first in the Majors in young pitching."

To me this makes some sense:

Orioles get Pie-Marquis-Greene.
Cubs get Peavy-Roberts.
Padres get Vitters-Olson-Samardzija-Thomas/Cedeno

Orioles get some veteran SP depth to cover the loss of Olson, the SS they've coveted for a while, and a toolsy cornerstone projetc in LF. The Cubs finally get a bonafide offensive sparkplug leadoff in Roberts and a legit Ace. Padres get a young HS product with a very high ceiling but needs more time, an immediate lefty starter with good upside to blowup in Petco (Think Bronson Arroyo, Year 1 in NL), a righty starter with upside but some issues, and some infield depth/solid situational bat and good glove to cover the loss of Greene.

I though so too somewhat about Roberts, but he is one year closer to Free Agency. It's not the same as the value he garnered last offseason. The supposed offer of Vitters, Cedeno and Marshall for Roberts is less than what was offered and turned down last season.