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According to La Velle E. Neal of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, the Twins might have interest in Colorado reliever Huston Street. With the news that Pat Neshek will need Tommy John surgery, you have to figure the Twins will bring in a reliever or two. Given the Twins' rumored interest in Garrett Atkins, maybe some kind of megadeal could come together.
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I love how Mark Shapiro isn't getting involved at all. He never ceases to disappoint me. We've got a possible perfect package right in front of us, with out primary necessities for the offseason. Jesus...
Posted by: Tribe No 1 Fan | November 11, 2008 at 04:25 PM
First Colorado, now maybe Minnesota. Things just keep on getting colder and colder for Huston.
I bet Coors Field would be a great place for Delmon Young's power to develop...
Posted by: basicslop | November 11, 2008 at 04:27 PM
Cuddyer + Perkins + prospect
FOR
Atkins + Street
Atkins for Cuddyer was a great idea from the start, this deal is great for both teams...
Posted by: twinsfan | November 11, 2008 at 04:30 PM
The Rockies don't need any more outfielders, basic.
Posted by: Pancreas, Yum! | November 11, 2008 at 04:32 PM
The Twins pulled of the Young-Garza trade last year...maybe they'll do another megadeal involving Atkins and Street? That's a great thought, Tim. How about Punto, Blackburn and a prospect?
Posted by: metsobsessed | November 11, 2008 at 04:32 PM
Tim, have you heard anything about a Mike Cameron, Bill Hall, and Carlos Villanueva trade for Kevin Slowey, Denard Span, and a low level prosect?
Posted by: glover28 | November 11, 2008 at 04:35 PM
glover...
I just shat myself at the thought of that deal.
Posted by: twinsfan | November 11, 2008 at 04:39 PM
The Twins and mega deal? You dont hear that too often...
Posted by: clarknaddison | November 11, 2008 at 04:39 PM
"Colorado reliever Houston Street."
Still sounds funny.
Delmon Young would be a monster if he was part of a trade to Colorado. Hitting in that ballpark against NL pitchers? Wow.
Posted by: bamabosoxfan | November 11, 2008 at 04:39 PM
people people people...
The Twins will NOT trade Delmon Young. Period. So PLEASE, rumors on him are worthless.
No way Twins trade talent like THAT away.
Posted by: twinsfan | November 11, 2008 at 04:41 PM
metsobsessed...punto is a free agent, I don't see him fitting in a trade
Posted by: SkiBolton | November 11, 2008 at 04:41 PM
twinsfan
i never even saw an officical report that this is even a rumor, but i just hear it, and i couldnt find anything on it, so...
Posted by: glover28 | November 11, 2008 at 04:41 PM
I wouldn't say the Indians aren't in on those guys...they haven't been ruled out or anything.
Posted by: Tim Dierkes | November 11, 2008 at 04:41 PM
Well no team would even consider that trade glover. I assume you are a Brew Crew fan your name containing Prince's number and all...
But Slowey and Span could get the Twins just about anyone... way more than Cameron and Hall and Villanueva. Slowey or Span plus prospects could get us Hardy :)...
Posted by: twinsfan | November 11, 2008 at 04:45 PM
But Tim, I just can't imagine the Tribe being involved in anything right now.
Unless Mark Shapiro happens to be shockingly (I can't emphasize 'shockingly' enough) working behind closed doors with O'Dowd right now.
But danggggggggggg, none of you know how completely pissed I am right now.
Posted by: Tribe No 1 Fan | November 11, 2008 at 04:47 PM
Geez, Neshek out two years? Nice going, Twins management =\ I had a bad feeling about choosing rehab over surgery to begin with. I guess getting Street at this point is reasonable, but it seems like such a waste.
Posted by: Bad Andy | November 11, 2008 at 04:51 PM
Who are the OF the Rockies have? I can only think of Taveras and Hawpe, then guys like Spillbourgh and other guys they would play over Young.
And sure the Twins woudl trade a delmon Young. If they are thinking about getting a Huston Street they better be thinking about Young.
Posted by: basicslop | November 11, 2008 at 04:59 PM
Tribe No 1 Fan should change his name to Tribe No 1 Whiner.
Posted by: MickS | November 11, 2008 at 04:59 PM
Hall is washed up and Villanueva is more of a 5th starter or long man. Cameron is expensive at 10mm. Not what the twins are looking for. Slowey and Span are great and on the cheap. This trade doesnt make any sense unless your GM is Ed Wade.
Posted by: clarknaddison | November 11, 2008 at 05:11 PM
The Rockies get Cuddyer Perkins and Matt Tolbert (?)
Cuddyer gives them a solid RF with some pop in the bat, Perkins gives them a good future 5th starter, and Tolbert gives them an MLB ready utility player to back Barmes or Stewart.
The Twins get Garrett Atkins and Huston Street.
Atkins gives us a solid run producer at 3rd for 2 years (hopefully more, if we get him). That solves a HUGE hole for the Twins.
Street gives us a fill in setup man / middle reliever for a year or two.
The deal is perfect, I WILL START PRAYING THE DEAL GETS DONE!
Posted by: twinsfan | November 11, 2008 at 05:16 PM
I like the perkins cuddy plus a prospect for atkins street from the twins side. we need the bullpen help and we have options in triple a to replace neshek and we have 4 other competent outfielders. Thoughts rockies fans? what type of prospect would you like in that slot? someone like boof Bonser could try and revive his potential there or maybe humbar or mulvey?
Posted by: Den_Orath | November 11, 2008 at 05:17 PM
The Rockies would need another A prospect in return. perkins cuddy plus a prospect for atkins street is a steal for the Twins.
Posted by: clarknaddison | November 11, 2008 at 05:21 PM
I'd throw in some high A or low A prospect... whatever floats the Rockies boat...
The one A ball player I wouldn't trade... Anthony Slama.
Posted by: twinsfan | November 11, 2008 at 05:24 PM
glover28, that is one of the worst trade proposals I've ever seen. Looks like a David Littlefield special. Hall has no value, Villy is a swingman, and Cameron is vastly overpaid.
I agree the Rockies don't need any more outfielders, and I don't know why they seem to be in the mood to sell everyone off since Holliday's gone. They will still hit, Spillborgs would probably start on a decent amount of clubs. And they have Fowler and C-Gonz kicking Tavares out of CF. If Francis reverts back to being a solid pitcher, they should contend for the division.
The Twins desperately need to pull off a big trade. I think they should sell high on Glen Perkins, he's a lot worse than his record indicated last year IMO. Perkins and maybe Buscher for Beltre would satisfy both parties.
Posted by: bigpat | November 11, 2008 at 05:25 PM
what would it take to get just street by himself no atkins. AAA pitching prospect plus tolbert? Bonser? who would they want
Posted by: Den_Orath | November 11, 2008 at 05:29 PM
2 high ceiling guys and one stud would get it done.
Posted by: clarknaddison | November 11, 2008 at 05:43 PM
We don't NEED Street... I'd rather sign Lyon or Juan Cruz to replace Neesh...
If the event called for it, I'd give them Cuddyer and Perkins for Atkins ALONE ...
Posted by: twinsfan | November 11, 2008 at 05:45 PM
Unless the Twins are going to be playing 81 games at Coors Field or there's some geological event that causes the Twin Cities to rise to a mile of elevation before April, I have little interest in Atkins. His non-Coors-inflated splits are bad... and even those are NL stats.
Street as a set up man would interest me for the right price, but I wouldn't fork over much beyond an A-minus prospect (maybe one of the Twins' pitchers who are out of options) for Atkins... and I can't see Colorado agreeing to that.
Posted by: JimCrikket | November 11, 2008 at 06:23 PM
I don't think the Rockies have any interest in Cuddyer at all. They have several outfielders who are better than Cuddyer for half the cost. Also, I doubt they are too interested in Perkins. His W/L record was a fluke, and a 4.41 ERA and .9 G/F won't translate well to Coors.
I propose Atkins + Street + prospect for Slowey + prospect. Twins get a great setup guy in Street, and him and Nathan make the best one two punch in baseball. They also get a good slugging 3B who will help out. They need it, as they only got 7 homers from what should be an offensive position all last year. Rockies get an impact pitcher who can fit into the 3rd slot in their rotation. Prospects are used to even out worth or address needs.
Posted by: mkorpal | November 11, 2008 at 09:39 PM
I would rather just plug Cuddy into 3B and pray for the best than trade for Atkins. It just does not seem worth it in the long run. I also feel we should look for a cheaper option than street for our 8th inning guy. We have a very deep pitching farm system and I would rather bring one or two of them up.
Oh, and there is no way Slowey is going any place with out someone like Hardy, Cantu, or escobar coming back. No. Way.
Posted by: cmb0252 | November 11, 2008 at 10:25 PM
korp to get slowey the deal will have to involve tulo. period. we know how valuable he is and no atkins street package is gonna do it
Posted by: Den_Orath | November 12, 2008 at 12:29 AM
Cuddyer, Perkins and Boof Bonser for Atkins and Street.
This works for both teams. As much as I don't like the idea of losing Perkins because left-handed pitching is always a premium, maybe the switch to Blackburn is done to complete this deal. But Rockies are looking for young pitching and 1) Bonser does have electric stuff, he just needs a change of scenery (look what it has done for Kyle Lohse), 2) Blackburn or Perkins is a 2nd mlb-ready pitcher that the Rockies are looking for and 3) the Rockies have already said they would like to get a right-handed rbi guy, which Cuddyer easily fills, especially getting numbers inflated at Coors Field.
For the Twins, Atkins gives them some right handed power (had more HRs away from Coors than at last year). He maybe isn't the guy to stick between the M&M boys, but he works quite well between Morneau and Kubel. Street, as noted in someone else's earlier post, gives the Twins a more than decent 1-2 bullpen punch with Nathan. That leaves the rest of the bunch (Crain, Guerrier, Breslow and Mijares) innings to fill in the 6th and 7th.
As for the idea of sending Tolbert, the answer should be no. With LNP (Little Nicky Punto) being a FA, Tolbert is the man to take over the utility spot....that is if he isn't the starting 2B/SS. Depends on whether they keep Casilla at 2B, or move him to SS...then Tolbert/Harris play 2B with the other being the utility guy.
Plus, with Atkins, they get someone who is familiar with playing 1B a little to give Morneau days of as a DH.
Posted by: GusRichards | November 12, 2008 at 01:07 PM
Cuddyer, Perkins and Boof Bonser for Atkins and Street.
This works for both teams. As much as I don't like the idea of losing Perkins because left-handed pitching is always a premium, maybe the switch to Blackburn is done to complete this deal. But Rockies are looking for young pitching and 1) Bonser does have electric stuff, he just needs a change of scenery (look what it has done for Kyle Lohse), 2) Blackburn or Perkins is a 2nd mlb-ready pitcher that the Rockies are looking for and 3) the Rockies have already said they would like to get a right-handed rbi guy, which Cuddyer easily fills, especially getting numbers inflated at Coors Field.
For the Twins, Atkins gives them some right handed power (had more HRs away from Coors than at last year). He maybe isn't the guy to stick between the M&M boys, but he works quite well between Morneau and Kubel. Street, as noted in someone else's earlier post, gives the Twins a more than decent 1-2 bullpen punch with Nathan. That leaves the rest of the bunch (Crain, Guerrier, Breslow and Mijares) innings to fill in the 6th and 7th.
As for the idea of sending Tolbert, the answer should be no. With LNP (Little Nicky Punto) being a FA, Tolbert is the man to take over the utility spot....that is if he isn't the starting 2B/SS. Depends on whether they keep Casilla at 2B, or move him to SS...then Tolbert/Harris play 2B with the other being the utility guy.
Plus, with Atkins, they get someone who is familiar with playing 1B a little to give Morneau days of as a DH.
Posted by: GusRichards | November 12, 2008 at 01:07 PM