Astros Shopping Wigginton

And Bill Smith...

I really think Astros just need to go to arb with him next year and hope he only makes 7 mill instead of the projected 10. Would be nice to get something good for him but highly doubt it as he would almost be a rental player and price wouldnt be near as high as it could be. Really just glad to see an Astros post!!!!

he really could command 10 million in arb? ship him out now

Phil Humber enough to get Wiggy?

Twins have a need for a power-hitting 3B, have the ability to spend about 10-15 mil this off-season, have a brand new park opening in 2010. What to do, what to do...

I really like Wiggy to play LF for the Braves in 2009. Wiggy for Mike Gonzalez? Does that make sense? He could set up for Valverde and his arbitration raise won't be NEAR 10 million dollars.

Mike Gonzalez is a STUD. As an Atlanta fan I'd MUCH prefer a solid bullpen & Brandon Jones over losing Gonzalez & having Wigginton.

Mike Gonzalez is of absolutely no help the Astros. First of all, they need to cut payroll IMMEDIATELY. We're not going to trade him to reduce payroll by 2 million, and especially in a deal for a reliever who most recently posted a 4.28 ERA at 30 years old. He's going to be traded for either a cheap catcher, a young, cheap arm, or a prospect or two.

You'd cut payroll by 5 million. Gonzalez is going to make around 5 million, Wiggy is going to make around 10. He posted a 4.28 ERA coming off a surgery. His velocity was down and it'll be back up by the start of the 2009 season. His ERA was 3.00 in save scenarios and I bet it'll be closer to that 1.59 figure he posted before going down in 2007 next season.

And how on earth does it make sense to trade 1 year of Ty Wigginton for a young, cheap arm. That's ridiculous. Maybe if Wiggy was JUST NOW arb eligible that'd be a good move.

Astros need a starting pitcher with an ERA of around 3 who wants to play for free............

anyone know a site for arb numbers? I thought Tim had one on here but cant find it

You can still sign Gonzalez after another year and get him back. Though you could probably do the same with Wiggy. However, we've got other options at Closer/set-up man in 2009 and no other options for Power-hitting right-handed left fielder. Makes sense to try and get Gonzalez back next year then re-sign Wiggy and have both holes filled for our World Championship 2010 season.

Yeah, your essay on how the plan works for the Braves is nice and all, but not once have you asserted why the trade helps the Astros. Between Valverde, Brocail, Hawkins, and Wright we're set in the bullpen.

And as for who would give up any value for Wigginton, considering the alternatives are signing Joe Crede and Juan Uribe, I'm pretty certain a team that needs to fill the 3B position will give up something of value for a 3B who has averaged .270 23 HR in his career and most recently hit .285 253. Casey Blake got the Indians 2 prospects as a rental. Wigginton should be able to get 1 or 2 decent prospects in a market like this.

"Yeah, your essay on how the plan works for the Braves is nice and all, but not once have you asserted why the trade helps the Astros. Between Valverde, Brocail, Hawkins, and Wright we're set in the bullpen."

I ASKED THE QUESTION does Gonzalez for Wiggy make sense for the Astros. Obviously not. My "essay" was arguing with the person who said he'd rather have Gonzalez than Wiggy on the Braves. I got my answer, obviously trading Gonzalez for Wiggy doesn't make sense for the Astros, I was arguing with a Braves' fan who said it doesn't make sense for the Braves. Maybe I should have stated my context better, but I'm not arguing it is a good move for Houston. The only thing I've argued is that a) a deal sending Gonzalez to Houston for Wiggy would makes sens for the Braves and b) I argued with the person who insinuated Gonzalez wasn't of value because of his 4.3 ERA last season.

"Actually it doesn't have to be a 1yr deal for wiggy if that team gives him a extension, but some teams are looking for a stop gap.... So they only need him for 1yr."

Whose to say he'd accept the extension offer? You can't trade him on the premise that he is able to be offered an extension. Anybody can be offered an extension. Getting them to accept an affordable, long-term contract is completely different. In that case, I'll trade you Omar Infante for Miguel Tejada. Sure, Infante isn't that good, but you could sign him to a 20 year extension and have him for 20 years.

"Wigginton should be able to get 1 or 2 decent prospects in a market like this."

Yes. I agree. 2 decent prospects. Young, Cheap arms are either a) not prospects because they're already in the bigs or b) way better than decent prospects. Trading somebody like Charlie Morton for Ty Wigginton doesn't make sense for the Braves. 5-6 years of Morton for 1 year of Wiggy (unless you're back on the extension premise, if so: stop reading and go to http://www.addictinggames.com/ because your online time would be better spent there) HUGELY favors the Astros.

Young, cheap arm doesn't mean high marquee. The Padres got Chad Reineke from the Astros for Randy Wolf. Reineke is a project, but is worth taking a chance on and the salary dump itself is of value. I'm not requesting one of the Braves' top pitching arms. The Astros could definitely get good value for him in the form of a couple of prospects in the earlier stages of development or a cheap, young arm that hasn't developed ideally but is worth taking a chance on.

Keep Wigginton trade Tejada (or give him away).