Baseball Blogs Weigh In: Mets, Tigers, Red Sox, Angels, Pirates

I'm curious to see what people think is a bigger deal then Robby and Joe for Tony and Fred.

Delmon Young for Matt Garza, and Jason Bartlett

3 sure fire HOF's that were traded, at a pretty young age.

Dont throw out trades like Young for Garza and Bartlett.

Young for Garza/Bartlett isn't even close. ARod for Soriano at least involves 1 probable HoF player.

December 28, 1994: San Diego Padres traded Derek Bell, Ricky Gutierrez, Pedro Martinez, Phil Plantier, Doug Brocail, and Craig Shipley to the Houston Astros for Ken Caminiti, Andujar Cedeno, Steve Finley, Roberto Petagine, Brian Williams, and a player to be named later.

We're not talking all HOF'ers but this trade was huge featuring all-stars and up-and-coming prospects.

if dunn could be had for less years and money, maybe they should. a nice 3 year deal and worry about it down the road

also, the players in the SD-TOR deal were all already proven players. Not really the case with Volquez. Fernandez and Alomar had both already been all stars and Carter and McGriff had 5 30 home run seasons combined prior to the deal and nobody in the deal was older than 30.

In my mind for the Angels you can NOT even begin to compare Dunn to Tex. Dunn's strikeout rate alone would drive Socia nuts. Tex fits into Socia's style of play infinitely better than Dunn ever would.

the rangers trade ruben sierra, bobby witt, and jeff russell to oakland for jose canseco.

at the time that was huge. sierra was a promising young proven 25-30 hr guy, russel was an all star closer and witt was a solid starter for the first 40/40 guy

Dec. 5, 1990 -- The Toronto Blue Jays traded Fred McGriff, first baseman and Tony Fernandez, shortstop, to the San Diego Padres for Joe Carter, outfielder and Roberto Alomar, second baseman.

Wow...

Dec. 20, 1926 -- The New York Giants trade Frankie Frisch and Jimmy Ring to the St. Louis Cardinals for Rogers Hornsby.

"Also, on this date 18 years ago, the San Diego Padres sent Roberto Alomar and Joe Carter to the Blue Jays for Fred McGriff and Tony Fernandez, in one of the biggest trades ever featuring young, proven talent. Got one that can top that?"

Pretty amazing trade if you think about it, but the Padres ended up the losers because of the crap they squandered the Crime Dog and Fernandez on. Meanwhile, the Blue Jays won 2 World Series' with those two guys being major pieces. Alomar, at a minimum, is going to the HOF from that trade, and McGriff has an outside shot.

As for sometime comparable, though really stupid for one of the teams involved:

May 14, 1998: (Mike Piazza) Traded by the Los Angeles Dodgers with Todd Zeile to the Florida Marlins for Manuel Barrios, Bobby Bonilla, Jim Eisenreich, Charles Johnson, and Gary Sheffield.

The only player who wasn't a proven productive MLB player was Barrios, and two of those guys (Piazza and Sheffield) deserve to be in the HOF. Meanwhile, Bonilla and Zeile were star players, Johnson was a multi-GGer and Eisenreich was one of the biggest pests in MLB history (ironically, especially against the Dodgers). 3 of the guys (Sheffield - 29, Piazza - 29, Johnson -26) were under 30.

"The Hamilton-Volquez trade was pretty impressive."

Neither player was exactly proven. Hamilton was a former junkie coming off a good half season and Volquez had done nothing. 2008, post-trade, actually showed the talent those two have.

"3 sure fire HOF's that were traded, at a pretty young age."

Huh? Which 3? Are you talking about the OP's trade? If so, the only one who is a shoe-in is Alomar.

"how about Soriano for A-Rod"

Big money there, but it was almost straight up (Arias may well succeed, but he certainly wasn't proven as an 18 year old in A ball).

How about the Expos sending Cliff Lee, Grady Sizemore, and Brandon Phillips to Cleveland for Bartolo Colon...

Turned out to be tad-bit lopsided I do believe...lol

I believe Neal Huntington had a huge role in aquiring those young Expos in the Colon trade. Does that seem correct?

Did anyone read the article from fire brand. Who writes for them? It's great that they are joining the conversation of moving Masterson to the rotation. We only finished talking about that here in Boston about three weeks ago. Oh and also could someone xplain to me how 27.1 % of the hits Masterson gave up came against lefties, while 13.2 % of his hits came against righties? Who the hell got the other 59.7 %, guys with no arms? You guys are awesome over there at fire brand keep up the good work.