Derek Lowe Rumors: Tuesday

No way the Phillies have a four year deal on the table.

They probably offered 2/30 which would probably be breaking the bank for their standards considering they don't want to pay Moyer 2/20.

I believe the Phils have a 2-yr deal out for Lowe with a 3rd year option that may kick in with certain Starts/Innings Pitched.

Someone will probably offer him at least 3yrs/45 Mil guaranteed though.

"i would rather have lowe than moyer. and if cost a little more than im all for it. the window is going to shut for the phils fast with the core players aging."

Worrying about that "window" is what makes a team have 5-10 years of futility. There's no need to dish out bad contracts because you're afraid of the future, especially when you're defending World Champions. The Phillies still have 4-5 years of their core and their farm is starting to get more respectable every year. No need to panic.

Moyer went 16 - 7 with a 3.71 ERA in half his game were at Citizens Bank Park (Bandbox!).

I would say Moyer is signifcantly better than Marquis, even if he is 46 years old. DeRosa is a nice player with versatility. A super utility player that would help any club.

100backeduptrucks,

we want no part of Marquis. We have plenty of middling 5th starters, we don't need more. and why would we do that to help you guys get Peavy when you had the NL's best regular season record.

philsws-forgot about eaton and i don't know what the deal is with kendrick. fair enough. my point was, though, that i know marquis has a bad reputation, and i've been the first to admit i don't trust him. however, when we first signed him, everyone said how he'd get lit up at wrigley. well, he's done exactly what he's always done: eat innings, get in jams, but more often than not, get out of those jams without too much damage. i don't know he does it sometimes, but he does. so while he is nothing more than a 5th starter, and an expensive one, is he not a better option than what you've got? and i'm sorry, moyer for 10 million a year, when you can get marquis and derosa for just about the same, i'll take marquis and derosa. i don't know how your guys' payroll is, but you'd probably still have money left to give to lowe or somebody like that to put between hamels and blanton (you guys still have blanton for next year, right?)
the whole reason for moving those two guys is to clear payroll for peavy and a left bat to play right, not because of performance (especially not derosa). if you get derosa, you'll love him. by helping us clear payroll, you are helping us get peavy, sorry to say...

There was a report out that the Philles are now talking to the Padres about getting Peavy.

The Padres said they like a lot of our young guys in our organization, but a top tier reliever would have to be included in the package, there's no proof, but my instinct says that if the Phillies were to put up Ryan Madson, J.A. Happ and Jason Donald for Peavy, that may be enough to get it done, maybe even throwing in Kendrick (who at 10-5 and 11-9 in the past 2 years isn't a joke)

Makes all the sense in the world for the Padres to look at that offer. Happ is a 12 game winner at least, Hendrick is 21-10 the past 2 years, Madson is yop set-up man, coming to be a closer soon, and Donald would replace the departed Greene.

100backeduptrucks,

Yes blanton is arb eligible so he'll get a bump along with a bunch of others.

I'll take Derosa but I'll be upset we're helping you and as FyreKnight says, why not send Hamels to try to convince Peavy to come to Philly. And while I like your thinking FyreKnight, i think any philly deal directly with the Padres would have to include as a centerpiece Carrasco which would make me at least pause. I'd want to be sure that Drabek could be up in 2+ years to replace what we'd be losing in Carrasco.

If we offered Carrasco, Madson, Kendrick and Donald that would be much more than the Cubs are offering. Then its just getting Peavy to agree to come here.

If i'm the Phils ( Ruben Amaro), i'm in Camp Peavy trying everything I can to convince Peavy to accept a trade to Philly... We have the pitching to get the deal done and Hamels, Peavy, Myers, Blanton, insert here looks as formidable as any in baseball...

allabouthephils,

i agree 100%. in fact Peavy's cheaper at the onset of the contract. That's where you go. Heck I'd even deal with Eaton every 5 days as long as i don't see him on the games i go to in my partial season package.

Well alright maybe Kendrick, not eaton.

Phillies are another team that might want to take a look at Randy Johnson as a cheap #5 alternative, he's bound to put up better numbers than marquis and even if they can get the Cubs to pay 1/3 of his contract, the cost will be about the same. Might take a look at Japanese imports kawakami and Uehele also as back of the rotation guys.

Yankees are negotiating with Boras about a four-year deal for more than $65MM

...how is this humanely possible..am i the only sane one left...

Derek Lowe is a joke...he's should not even be top 2 guy in ANY rotation in baseball..and someone(multiple) is offering him a min of $!6 mi!! a year??

sign me up...i can throw 85 with mediocre control

"sign me up...i can throw 85 with mediocre control"

Are you lefthanded? Because soft-tossing righties don't get $16M a year. They have to somehow scrape by on $16M over three years. ;-)