Giants, Johnson Have Mutual Interest

I hope Randy Johnson holds out until the Dodgers sign Manny Ramirez. The Dodgers have Spring Training in Glendale, which is right next to Phoenix, and they'll have a better chance to win than the Giants. They'll definitely put up more runs.
I'm not exactly sure how he thinks the Giants will be competitive with the team they currently have though.

What makes the giants so appealing? Especially over the dodgers?

"Chance to be competitive"?

"Chance to be competitive"?

in the NL West? absolutely

especially if the Dodgers fail to sign Manny

If the Giants could sign Johnson to a 1 year deal and sign someone like Burrell to a 2 or 3 year deal they would be looking much better...

could a situation like that be within the budget? how much is Burrell asking for (With hometown discount)?

The Giants have a horrible offense. With or without Burrell, they aren't going to score runs. They need to win a bunch of 1-0 games if they expect to even get to .500.

"The Giants have a horrible offense."

True, but Burrell/Dunn would be a significantly better middle of the order threat than Molina.

It would be start.

the Dodgers may outdraw the Giants each year, but they need a larger stadium to do so. The Giants always fill a higher percentage of available seats than the Dodgers do.

Giants fans also can get to the games on time, so they miss fewer innings. :)

Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain, Jonathan Sanchez, Randy Johnson - that would be a rotation made in heaven.

the giants fans don't leave in the seventh inning and boo their team

The Dodgers had to pump fan noise into the stadium.

Dodgers fans leave in the 6th/7th

The stadium is a dump - if you buy a bleacher seat you cant walk around the stadium??

During Giants/Dodgers games the stadium is never full.

Every time FOX or ESPN nationally televises SF/LA games commentators always talk about how Giants fans care more about the rivalry..

hands down Giants fans are better...

"The Dodgers had to pump fan noise into the stadium."

Have you ever BEEN to Dodger Stadium? They don't pump "fan noise" into the stadium. It's not a dome. The crowd noise is the crowd. Period.

"Dodgers fans leave in the 6th/7th"

Incorrect. You must never have been there during the Gagne years or when Manny came. NO ONE left the stadium. But hey, I'm sure there were a bunch of people that stuck around in SF in 40 degree weather with the Giants down 12-1 last year.

"The stadium is a dump - if you buy a bleacher seat you cant walk around the stadium??"

Dodger Stadium is not a dump. But thanks for trying. It's now the 3rd oldest park in baseball and still holds up. Boo hoo, you can't walk around the entire stadium when you buy a bleacher ticket. You might be forced to actually watch the game.

"Every time FOX or ESPN nationally televises SF/LA games commentators always talk about how Giants fans care more about the rivalry.."

Really? Maybe it's because the Giants have never won a World Series in SF and so all they have to hope for is beating the Dodgers. And I don't think it's true that only Giant fans care about the rivalry. REAL fans care. Commentators are good at saying illogical things with no basis in reality.

I have been lived in both cities and been to been stadiums many, many times. AT&t park is by far better...no arguing that. And dodgers fans DO show up late and leave early.

I cant tell you how many times I hear that the Giants fans are the only ones keeping the rivalry alive. If you Dodgers dont suck it up Moreno and his Angels is gonna take over Southern California if he hasnt already. I could care less about the Dodgers but would hate to see the oldest rivalry in sports die because you guys are, whats the word? Bums.

I think that the addition of Randy Johnson would be perfect. It would pump up the volume on our younger starters, and give us a good innings as well. Also, THE DODGERS SUCK!!!!!!Look how they've desperatly tried signing our sloppy seconds (Kent,Schmidt,Tomko, the list goes on)and they still suck!!!

the dodgers are not going to trade Martin and sign Tek! so shut up about it!

giants have a much brighter future than the dodgers, their young players have a chance to be above average and their pitching staff will keep them in every game, especially with RJs mullet flapping in the wind out there

Dodger Fans:
How could Randy Johnson find the Giants appealing, and a contender? The Dodgers “before” Manny Ramirez was a team fighting tooth and nail to play sub .500 baseball… Even with the tremendous tear that Manny Ramirez had, the Dodgers still only ended up 4 games over .500. The Dodgers now, no longer have two mainstays in their Rotation (Derek Lowe/Brad Penny), Chad Billingsley is going to miss part of the season they speculate with his injury. Jeff Kent has retired, Saito is leaving, Furcal is practically gone, Andru Jones was a bust, I could go on.
The Giants, after starting with their older players in the season (Castillo, Durham, Omar) ended the season playing their best baseball. The Giants ended the last two months of the season (Aug/Sept) over .500 despite key members being hurt (Fred Lewis foot, Rowand broken ribs). If you Dodger fans are not familiar with Pablo Sandoval, you will become extremely familiar.
2008 Stats
Single A (273 AB’s, .359 Avg, .412 Obp, .597 Slg, 12 HRs)
Double A (184 AB’s, .337 Avg, .364 Obp, .549 Slg, 8 HRs)
MLB (154 AB’s, .345 Avg, 357 Obp, 490 Slg, 3 HRs)
Winter (152 AB’s, .388 Avg, .448 Obp, .671 Slg, 11 Hrs)
He lead the VWL (Winter League) in Batting Average, Home Runs and Slugging % (he’s also 22 years old)
The Giants have a good lead off hitter in Randy Winn, who’s bat 300+ 3 out of his 4 years in SF, and stole 25 bases last year. Edgar Renteria batting second, two years removed from winning the NL batting title. The afore mentioned Pablo Sandoval batting third. Fred Lewis, Bengie Molina, Aaron Rowand badding 5-7 who averaged between the three .281 batting average, not to mention that Molina was clutch falling 5 RBI’s short of 100. If you inject a bat in the middle of the line up, our offense will be vastly improved… And you cannot even COMPARE the Dodgers rotation (or lack there of) to the Giants. Zito has been a bust, thus far, but having someone like him as your 3rd best pitcher behind Matt Cain and the NL’s Cy Young winner Tim Lincecum, you have to think the Giants have a lot to offer.
The Giants have a pitchers park, which will help Randy Johnson, it’s near his home town and perfect for the Giants… If the Giants can add Johnson, find someone to hit 4th in the line up, I for one, expect the Giants to contend next year… Not to mention, guys like Buster Posey, etc; will make their debut in September. With the offensive future in Pablo Sandoval, Buster Posey, Angel V, Kevin Frandsen, Fred Lewis making their way in, along with the rotation/stars of Lincecum, Cain, Bumgarner, Tim A, etc… Be afraid, be very afraid!

One year with Randy Johnson could have a great mentoring affect on the minds of our young pitchers. The fans keep crying "youth, youth," but you can't throw ALL experience out the window. You MUST have some vetrans to stabilize these young players, and Randy has been a winner for a long time. Sign him!

Maybe with that pitching staff, some bats will choose to come to SF over other cities.

Giants 2010: Lets just see what this coming season brings us first. Both on the farm and the big club. Last year the Giants were a team that could compete to win on any random game. This year the Giant look to be team that can compete in any random series. Thats a big step but let's not get to carried away and think this is team with an 80 win floor – yet. They get t o near that 80 win floor then we can begin thinking about chattering like a contender in the off season. That just my 2 cents worth.

Random people questioning if the Giants are competitive: Scoreboard says the 90 loss team went 9-9 Vs. the Division leader. 7-5 after the All Star break. Enough said.

I am all for The Unit on a year. Even if team misses Tim & Cain facing Sanchez, Zito and Johnson in a 3 game series should be rather fun. Especially in a division were there should be a lot young hitters playing key roles.