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MLBTR contributor Brendan Bianowicz has a fresh entry in the GM Trade History series. Today he profiles the work of Rangers GM Jon Daniels, which you can download as an Excel spreadsheet here.
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Wow, Tim, I'm just impressed...!!! 4:00 in the morning and you still up and running?! Now that is what I call commitment.
Posted by: mtzxc | December 05, 2008 at 04:16 AM
He just couldn't sleep without getting us vital Ranger GM trade info...either that or he ate Mexican last night...;-)
Posted by: Beau | December 05, 2008 at 04:57 AM
A couple of real stinkers in there - 2 of them are particularly difficult to read, as they conjure up so many painful emotions. But one has to give JD his due for the good trades, too - and there have been just as many of the latter as the former.
I suspect that one underlying reason that will prevent JD from getting what he's demanding from Boston in a Salty deal is that Boston already gave up way too much in that Gagne deal, and they don't want to get suckered again. Saving face is an important thing.
Posted by: J the Dizzolla | December 05, 2008 at 05:09 AM
I think the underlying reason that will prevent JD from getting what he wants from Boston is he wants Bostons best pitching prospect or their next 2 best pitching prospects for his second best catcher, and that isn't going to happen. Saltalamachhia isn't as good as the hype is, he hit .253 for Texas this year.
Salty for Bowden and a A-ball arm is a gift.
I never believed Boston gave up too much for Gange, Gabbard is a nothing arm, Murphy a 4th outfielder, and a 17 year old kid who is easily replaced. It wasn't a big haul by any means.
Volquez, Masset, Danks - can anyone explain to me why the Rangers have been trading pitching the last 2 years?
Posted by: quintjs | December 05, 2008 at 06:11 AM
quintis:
How do you know what Salty is or isn't? He has the equivalent of 500 big league at bats, with good power for a catcher, and a solid .261/.327/.399/.727 over that span. Those stats easily put him in the upper echelon of hitting catchers, and that's during a pretty serious adjustment phase that included a jump from AA to the majors (the idea is that he should only get better). So your dogmatism is premature and unfounded. And last season, when Salty got some playing time, he slumped, but then started hitting like a machine right when Laird came back from injury and took his starting job back. So there's just as much evidence supporting the thought that Salty might be a very good offensive catcher.
Regarding the Gagne deal, I agree that Gabbard is a "nothing arm," but again your contention that Murphy is nothing more than a 4th OF is simply untrue. You apparently didn't watch Murphy play last season. He hit for power, drove in timely runs, showed good speed & instincts on the basepaths, and played a great OF. Over the course of a season, he will easily put up .275/20/90, and how many OFs can do that - much less 4th OFs. And the other guy in that trade is the reason why Texas took Boston - he's not just any "17 year old" - he's about the most "toolsy" OF in the entire minor leagues. Sure, he may not amount to much in the end, but then again, he might be a perennial all-star. Too early to tell on that one. But even if it were just David Murphy for 2 months of Gagne - Texas easily won that trade.
You won't get any argument out of me about Texas trading away Volquez, Danks, Chris Young, and Galarraga, though. Hopefully, JD has learned his lesson and will hold onto guys long enough to at least see what he's got with them.
Posted by: J the Dizzolla | December 05, 2008 at 06:52 AM
Boston came calling , made an offer , we took it , its not our fault he pitched terrible for them . get over it , ya'll wanted him .
Posted by: Lloyd4 | December 05, 2008 at 06:55 AM
"Wow, Tim, I'm just impressed...!!! 4:00 in the morning and you still up and running?! Now that is what I call commitment."
Seriously Tim. You're the Man. Now go get some rest you crazy bastard. ;-)
Posted by: nrmax88 | December 05, 2008 at 07:21 AM
Sure, but he sleeps in too late. I go to work at 6:00a, and I have to keep staring at this post until mid-morning...
Posted by: DunkinDonuts | December 05, 2008 at 08:11 AM
"Sure, but he sleeps in too late. I go to work at 6:00a, and I have to keep staring at this post until mid-morning..."
Or you could just do your job?
Posted by: GoSoX | December 05, 2008 at 08:21 AM
C'mon, 8:30 isn't mid-morning. I autoposted this Daniels thing, no way can I stay up til 4am!
Posted by: Tim Dierkes | December 05, 2008 at 08:37 AM
"He has the equivalent of 500 big league at bats, with good power for a catcher, and a solid .261/.327/.399/.727 over that span. Those stats easily put him in the upper echelon of hitting catcher."
Really? A .727 OPS puts him in the upper echelon of hitting catchers? I realize they don't hit as a group like other positions but that's hardly an upper echelon line. Add some questionable defense and I'm not sure he's close to as highly regarded as he was. Bowden + prospect would be a great grab for Texas IMO.
Posted by: CubbyFan23 | December 05, 2008 at 08:47 AM
"275/20/90, and how many OFs can do that"
About 95% of major league outfielders-- thats how many!!!
Posted by: werewolf | December 05, 2008 at 08:58 AM
One big bag of fail. If he does nothing they would have been in the playoffs with Young, Danks, Volquez, Galarraga in the rotation. A Gonzalez would have replaced Hamilton's #'s easily.
Posted by: kinsler5 | December 05, 2008 at 09:29 AM
salty is 23 with alot of room to grow. imo in 3 years he will be one of the better offensive catchers in the game. he profiles actually better than tek did at the same age. he wants to learn from tek, so if he actually listens he could be every bit as good if not better. cathcers usually take longer to develop than other positions and he is still 4 years from prime. as for murphy being a 4th of, i agree he may never be a superstar but "275/20/90" cmon any team would be more than happy to have a "4th of" who could do that and as for "95%" of mlb of being able to do that....i would be suprised to see 30 who did this year. actually i just counted and found 24 but i may be off.
Posted by: jay | December 05, 2008 at 09:49 AM
sorry 14 not 24 there were a few that came close, or had one or 2 of the stats but not the third
Posted by: jay | December 05, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Thank for corroborating that, Jay. I think people just assume because most teams have an OF who can hit around .300, knock out 25-30 homers, and drive in 100 runs that every team has 2 or 3 of those guys. The truth is, if you've got 90 starting outfielders in baseball, and Murphy lands around #50 in hr, around #40 in rbi, and around #50 in average - and add in 28 doubles and 7 steals, + good defense = all that in around 400 ab because of injury - David Murphy is definitely more than a 4th OF.
Posted by: J the Dizzolla | December 05, 2008 at 10:32 AM
murphy would start on most teams. he was blocked in boston by manny and drew, so yeah there he would have been a 4th of. but the truth is most teams dont have 2 ofs that can post those numbers. the rangers are lucky that they have 3 that could do it next year in hamilton, murphy and cruz.
Posted by: jay | December 05, 2008 at 10:51 AM
Is that a complete list or just the blooper reel? Haha.. There are some bad ones, but some of the more recent deals look pretty good.
The Soriano, Carlos Lee, Adrian Gonzalez/Chris Young, Danks deals were all pretty bad.. If not awful.
I still like the Lofton for Max Ramirez deal a lot from their end. The Gagne deal was a steal, depending on how Beltre turns out. I also think the Tex deal could work out for them if Salty trade rumors to Boston pan-out.
Hamilton for Volquez.. It is kind of hard to argue that anyone got the better end of that deal as of yet. Both guys had stellar years, but if I had to give it to anyone, it would be Texas.
Posted by: GoTribe | December 05, 2008 at 10:54 AM
The one redeeming takeaway from all those bad trades JD made early on is that we still have Nelson Cruz, and he seems to have found his groove. He might put up monster numbers next year, a la Quentin. But yeah - it'd be nice to have back Soriano, Danks, Young and Galarraga.
Posted by: J the Dizzolla | December 05, 2008 at 11:31 AM
You have to remember he's only what, 27 or 28? He was 26 when he made those first few "bonehead" trades, which any Ranger sorely regrets him making. However, notice how much improvement he's made for this team. When he took over, the team didn't really have an identity; it was mainly a thrown together squad, banking on mediocre minor-leaguers like Laynce Nix and Kevin Mench to step in and fill the void. We were full of random veterans, like David Dellucci and Phil Nevin. Yeah, we had Mark Teixera, and while he seemed to put up the numbers, any true Ranger fan knew how inconsistently mediocre he really was.
Since the summer of '07, when he made the Tex, Lofton and Gagne trades, it seems as though the guys we're getting in return are true ballplayers, not relying on crossed fingers. It's noticeable now that last years Rangers team really was something special. They played like they wanted to win, but have fun at the same time. You can tell that they enjoy playing for Wash, and they enjoy playing alongside each other. Look how Milton Bradley, how with all of his question marks, suddenly became a fan favorite, even leading the team onto the Shea Stadium tarp to enjoy some Slip 'n Slide.
The minor league system looks extremely bright, not even getting into the pitching depth we carry down there. With Andrus, Holland, Smoak and Feliz soon to be Rangers, the future has never looked brighter for the Rangers. After only 3 seasons as the GM of a seemingly hopeless Rangers franchise, I'm overwhelmed with optimism, and I'm confident in nearly any move JD makes.
Posted by: ForeverRanger | December 06, 2008 at 01:29 AM
I think as long as Nolan keeps JD on a short leash and they get rid of Washington, the rangers can be somewhere. Here's hoping to seeing Bobby V in a rangers uniform again. Oh yeah and thank god they are bringing back the Red uniforms
Posted by: adam | January 25, 2009 at 11:12 PM
I think Boston is a little ticked off about the Gagne trade. How can we not talk about the trade with Tex to the Braves. That was a complete heist. I'm speculating here, but I feel that Andruw Jones will break the roster and come back to form. Since he is on a one-year contract look for a BIG trade to another contender (I assume we will trade him even if we are in the hunt since we have so many OFs). Great year to be a Ranger Fan.
Posted by: Rett Davis | March 07, 2009 at 03:03 PM