Mariners Make Putz Available

The Mariners asked for alot when it was Jarred Washburn, imagine what they would ask for with J.J. Putz. Putz could probably do well in the NL but again, the Mets would need to give up some good prospects I don't think the Mets should do when they have closers on the free agent market that wouldn't cost you prospects.

Mets don't have the strongest farm either. They have who? Parnell, Kunz, Fernando Martinez and Jon Niese? That's who the Mariners are going to be targeting and I seriously doubt the Mets want to give away that much for Putz.

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Not that theres anything wrong with it....

G.M.'s are going to be able to drive F. Rodriquez's dollar and year demands down even further.

Who would close for Sea? Kerry Wood?

Mets need to stop being concerned with salary. THey have a new stadium in NYC with their own TV network, 3.5 million shouldn't scare them away from a solid reliever!!!

And I agree that the Mets shouldn't trade prospects for a closer when there are so many closers available for just money.

A Putz in New York sounds like a perfect scenario. I would figure it would be the Yankees not Mets, who want a Putz.

I stand corrected. Didn't hear that...I'm sure there's flexibility there, though. If Marmol doesn't work they can swap roles.

I'm a fan of both Chad Bradford and JJ Putz. I see guys like Bob Howry and Jeremy Affeldt signing at affordable rates, and it leads me to believe that Omar will be stupid enough to just attempt to krazy-glue the bullpen by giving Francisco Rodriguez some ridiculous contract and thinking the bullpen will be okay with the usual suspects in '09. This is unbelievable.

Just think about it already - the Mets could've had Feliciano and Heilman for Street, the opportunity to keep Luis Ayala via arbitration, and then Bradford for a prospect with the expectation of taking on Bradford's contract.

I'd already feel better with Joe Smith, a 25 year old Huston Street, Chad Bradford, Luis Ayala, Brian Stokes, Scott Schoeneweis' GREAT contract as the main LOOGY, and the opportunity for Kunz or Parnell to contribute next year with only a couple more million coming on the books from those deals with plenty of money being left over to pick up that free agent closer or big-time hitter.

Omar, wake up already!!

I think the Mets are throwing these trade rumors out there to get the price down on K-Rod or Fuentes (or both).

There's no reason to be trading prospects for a closer when there's several available without losing any players.

With the Mets moving into a new Park next year, I find it hard to believe they're not willing to spend.

Bradford had good traditional numbers with the Rays but all of the other numbers says those are not sustainable and that he was lucky, good move on the Rays behalf trying to dump him and his salary.

''Mets are dumb to not consider bradford based on salary. They need bullpen help and could probably get him for next to nothing.''

I would have to agree. I am aware that Bradford is not very effective against lefties and him and Joe Smith are similar pitchers, but he's been dependable for quite a while now as a middle reliever.

I don't get it - Omar Minaya could spend a few million on a 'roided-up Guillermo Mota, $8 million on a 41 year old Moises Alou and $24 million on a declining and clearly injured Luis Castillo but he can't roll the dice and spend a few million on a reliever with a combined ERA under 3 since 2005? I can't argue with results and the opportunity to actually get some new blood in this bullpen, whether or not it is a familiar face. I know a lot of Mets fans (including myself) that thought losing Bradford was a mistake back in 2006.

''I think the Mets are throwing these trade rumors out there to get the price down on K-Rod or Fuentes (or both).''

I would agree to this on a condition. If this is true and it comes down to $40 million from either the Mets or the Angels, I would think that K-Rod is headed back to Los Angeles. If K-Rod is going to come to New York, I really think it will be about money and nothing more.

I think the Mariners would be after Daniel Murphy plus probably a young pitcher for Putz. Murphey would be a nice replacement for Beltre when he gets dealt.

I also think the Mets are just using the Mariners to try and get K-Rod to drop his demands. Its a little silly (and transparent) to act like you want to give up 2-3 quality players for a guy like Putz when you can get K-Rod for $$$.. Even though its riskier and an overpayment over the long term.

Omar is most certainly driving down the price on KRod and Fuentes with trades, but I also think he plans on pulling the trigger. Dont forget we need a setup man as well.

I keep hearing ppl hating on Omar for not trading Heilmann and Feliciano for Street, bottom line is that we dont actually know that was a done deal. Not to mention, a good GM would try and switch feliciano for Show to see if that would work for the rockies. The bottom line is though, none of us really know what happened there so we should just forget about it.

As for Putz, while I think he would be a great addition to the pen I would feel more comfortable with KRod or Fuentes on a 3 year deal. I think the end result should be about 3/40 on KRod and 3/33 for fuentes, in which i sign Krod and then trade for street if possible.

Also does anyone think it would be possible to sign Wood as a Setup man? would he want too much money? even on a 3 year deal? maybe 3/18? or even 2/14?

I know we are gonna get our closer, my main worry is who will be setting up the mystery man!!

"I would agree to this on a condition. If this is true and it comes down to $40 million from either the Mets or the Angels, I would think that K-Rod is headed back to Los Angeles. If K-Rod is going to come to New York, I really think it will be about money and nothing more."

If K-Rod goes back to LA for 40 million, that is still amazing for the Mets. We can then sign Fuentes or Wood for cheaper, and I prefer those guys to K-Rod anyway. But most of you would have Omar sign K-Rod a month ago to 7/100 just to say we have K-Rod.

Check this nucca's.. Trade for Mr. Street and sign K-Rod. Put them with Smith, Feliciano, Stokes, and sign Juan Cruz and Cordero. That bullpen should hold up. I really want Man Ram in NYC with the Mets. Yo souf4life where you at dogg ill be waiting to some wack a** bullshi* come out your mouth.

''Jesus Christ Bob Howry signed and you all act like we just missed out on the buy of the century. It is barely December and nobody worth a damn has signed a contract besides Affeldt. Rushing into things an signing guys so you can have them in December and overpaying is what idiots do. A guy signed in January counts the same as a guy signed in November. But no, you all want to overpay guys so we can argue with Philly fans for 4 months about how we are the team to beat because we fixed our bullpen in December. Unbelievable. What impatient little spoiled brats we are.''

I could care less about Philadelphia. Mets fans should know better than to try to brag about their team, especially after the last two years. But the bottom line is, I have sat through at least 40 Mets games at Shea in the past two years where this bullpen has continued to implode again and again. Omar could've read the signs in September 2007 that his bullpen was falling apart after the first collapse but he decided to leave the bullpen as is, which wasn't exactly the worst move because it could've been a typical one-month meltdown. Well it certainly wasn't, and now it's time to overhaul this bullpen, and I don't mean by acquiring an overpriced closer and that's it.

I agree with you about overpaying for players in the early going of free agency, but the Giants didn't exactly overpay for either Affeldt or Howry. Affeldt for 2/8 was a borderline steal.

I'm just worried that Omar is going to sign K-Rod for ridiculous money, maybe trade one of those mainstays in the '07-'08 bullpens, and just leave the bullpen as is, and that will be his RECONSTRUCTION of the bullpen. If there is one thing I hate about Omar Minaya, it is his inability to acquire pitching depth, whether it be starting or relief. I really hope he has learned his lesson this time around.

Say what you want about the Heilman and Feliciano for Street rumor, and I know you are a big Heilman fan, but that would've started an overhaul of this bullpen. If they signed K-Rod after acquiring Street, they would have a pretty impressive 1-2 combo that would definitely leave Mets fans more confident in '09 in the late innings instead of seeing the usual suspects trotting out there, blowing games.

oh, and im sorry i made a mistake, the team who signs the free agent only loses one 1st round draft choice... but still you are going to lose a FIRST ROUND DRAFT CHOICE REGARDLESS...