Marlins Sign Josh Johnson

O now that the marlins sign up josh they are the favorites to take the east hands down.

Staying on the Marlins

Their payroll is less than 20 million.

Hanley Ramirez has a 6 year 70 million contract. 11 million of 20 mill.

They should trade him for 5 or 6 prospects to the red sox or any other team that needs a good shortstop.

He hit 33 homeruns and still drove in less than 80 rbis, that's really sad for him.

That contract is such a bargain because he is in the top 3 best shortstops group. 1.reyes. 2:him. And then 3.rollins

Marlins are going nowhere and they know it. He has huge value and they should trade before his 28th birthday.
Fyi he becomes 28 in 2011.

Phew, I'm just glad to take a break from the Furcal fanaticism around here. You want to see some blood boiling go check out the comments on that thread!

exactly how is reyes better than rollins...

Hahahaha. Since when does a NATIONALS' FAN have any right to criticize ANY organization?

You would have to be a complete ignoramus to not believe that Hanley is one of the best players in baseball. Did you ever think that his RBI didn't match up with his HR total because he is a LEADOFF hitter? I will give you that he was terrible in the clutch for a good portion of last season, but he picked it up in the second half and began to re-gain his 2007 form where he would get clutch hits every game.

What would trading Ramirez accomplish when they have a NEW STADIUM coming in a few years? You do realize that that is the main reason why they locked him up, right? Oh, and the fact that you put JOSE REYES ahead of him is laughable.

The Marlins have the brighest future of ANY team in the majors. A rotation of Josh Johnson, Ricky Nolasco, Chris Volstad, Anibal Sanchez, and Andrew Miller is NASTY, and they have a lineup consisting of Hanley, Cameron Maybin, Dan Uggla, Jorge Cantu, Jeremy Hermida (who is bound to break out), John Baker (who was quietly one of the best offensive catchers in the MLB when he entered the league last year), and LOADS of studs down in the minors.

So please; EDUCATE YOURSELF before you make a dumb comment like that.

borat-

He definitely is...He has Cy Young potential.

Look at the year he had in 2006. The kid definitely has ace stuff. Upper 90's fastball (can touch 99), filthy changeup, excellent composure and mound presence...He reminds me of a young Roger Clemens.

Reyes is NOT better than Hanley!

HE is 6 7 and is injury prone. I agree he is great but an ace your era has to be lower then 3 .6

He has had that history of injuries which will hurt his career. He said this year he can be an ace. Maybe in 3 years.

I'm telling you: if he stays healthy this year (and I really think he will), he will be in the running for the Cy Young award.

beast-

1. So now you're a Mets' fan? That gives me even MORE of a reason to not listen to you considering you have one of the biggest jokes of an organization in sports.

2. They don't have the money to pay him? Then why did they just lock him up to a long-term deal like you astutely pointed out, genius?

3. Have fun finishing third in the NL East this year.

chicubs-

Agreed.

And I think Escobar will surpass Reyes within a year or tow.

Reyes bats in a pitchers park. Rollins hits in hitters.

Reyes steal 60 bases a year hits 15 homeruns a year. 19 triples last year and the only reason rollins hits 30 homers a year is because of cbp

Reyes isn't better than hanley but their numbers are pretty close.

Those are the top three ss in baseball in any order. Ill give you ramirez, reyes , rollins.

But the Mets are the best team on paper.

chicubs-

They definitely aren't. Their starting rotation outside of Santana is horrifying, and their lineup is still full of a bunch of choke artists.

I said I was a nats fan to see the reactions people like you give ( I was right)

The marlins are the team with the lowest payroll but it makes sense the clear the big money of the mmarlins to get top prospects.

Yeah i kind of have Reyes and Rollins about even, Reyes maybe better just because of age. The only reason Ramirez isnt far and away the best SS in baseball is because of his defense.

Sorry tejada is not better then reyes

You crazy is you think Tejada and Jeter are better. And young (despite the Gold glove) isnt a good defender and offers no speed.

Furcal? reyes is good Don't underrate him but rollins is better.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/reyesjo01.shtml

Chicubs thank you another sane person in the room

Jeter isn't what he was
Tejada isn't what he was with steriods
And young doesn't produce what reyes does.
Reyes is the energizer bunny he keeps going and goin

Reyes is ALL SPEED. That's it. A LOT of his hits come off infield singles, and you know it. He is also one of the biggest chokers I've ever seen.

Reyes offer 290 avg 15 -20 hrs. 60- 80 rbis inthe lead off spot 60 -80 sbs and. Has good range and the second strongest arms behind furcal.

I'm only saying he is better because he is so clutch and makes spectacular plays every day. Also he is the best leader in the mlb. But reyes number wise is better.

Baseball isnt play on paper (example Tigers and Mariners). Baseball is play on clay, not paper.
IDK am i wrong?
Im pretty sure it clay?

Jeter in center hah. maybe second but he is still a shortstop when he goes in to left field and steals singles away it is amazing.

"Jeter in center hah. maybe second but he is still a shortstop when he goes in to left field and steals singles away it is amazing."

Most if not all top scouts believe he should be in CF. The problem is nobody is going to make him, and hes not going to do it willingly because of pride. Which is certainly understandable.

But the Mets are the best team on paper.

haha its a good thing they don't play on paper, especially come September.

ramirez is the best SS in the NL East followed by Reyes and Rollins, no matter how much it pains me, but Rollins is definitely the best defensive shortstop of the three. And i don't think you'll ever see Reyes win an MVP.

That being said this is about Josh Johnson who definitely has top stuff but probably is a 2. Nothing to be ashamed of.

The Marlins have a great staff, but there's no way they win the east in 2009.

center he doesn't have the arm for center field. sac flies he would suck diving he would suck. He isn't suited for center. Pride jeter is team oriented and will always do whats best for the team. Him being in center would be terrible for the team. He is a great fielder he messes up sometimes but makes up for it.

the marlins are an couple of moves away, i think.
They need an veteran presence in the bullpen, right now kensing(5 years) is the veteran. They need to pick a couple of grizzling, and probably fat veterans pitcher out of nowhere, like cantu last year, and borowoski, and benitez, and jones(For Mets fans, these is called good management)

"exactly how is reyes better than rollins...":

exactly how is he not?

Marlins man I sorry but don't attack us becomes omar minaya has made some great deals this off season and even phllie fan will tell you this.

1.Met or phillies
3.braves or marlins
5.nats

Srry marlins your payroll hurts you guys.

"How exactly is Jeter a better SS than Rollins? Is it Jeter's declining OPS or the huge advantage Rollins has defensively?"
There about even but for what jeter does for the yankees every day and all the game winnig hits and i was also consdering leadership and also handling the media. I watch alot of yankees games and jeter is underrated. When you watch him play when you realize all he does which when you watch highlights you don't realize all he does. rollin ba last years was 23 points lower and ops was about even last year.

leadership is crap. Rollins is LIGHT YEARS better than 2008 Jeter defensively.

Rollins plays in the nl two which is alot easier while jeter is playing in the hardest division in baseball. Jeter last year was playing through an injury the whole last year because of daniel carberea.

"Marlins man I sorry but don't attack us becomes omar minaya has made some great deals this off season and even phllie fan will tell you this."

Didn't we say that last year? Mets still have very little in the starting rotation after Santana. They've improved the bullpen and they've got a great offensive core of Wright, Reyes, Beltran, and Delgado, but they've still got nothing in the outfield other than Beltran and black holes at C and 2B. It's like they have to win games with 4 offensive players every night.

Philsws champ
You are the most rational phillies fan I have ever chatted with. But honestly you do know the mets are the better team

Just pulling your tail lol

Of course anyone could hit 40 dingers and drive in 140 in that banbox

Rollins plays in the nl two which is alot easier while jeter is playing in the hardest division in baseball. Jeter last year was playing through an injury the whole last year because of daniel carberea.

wait, do they hit the ball HARDER in the AL so it makes it harder to play good defense? That AL is better than NL crap can only be used for pitchers, not hitters. The NL has as good if not better pitchers than the AL.

Lincecum
Santana
Hamels
Webb
Peavy
Lowe
Billingsley
Pelfrey
Harden
Zambrano
Dempster
Wainwright
Haren

etc etc etc

seriously i find alot of flaws in every move omar makes
K-rod, really, he wearing down, and his delivery is too violent to repeat as he gets older.
Putz, trade 7 guys for a set-up man, and he doesnt solve there problem for a lefty reliever, to pitch against howard, utley. 26 mil on 2 relief pitcher.

THe pitching is better in the al its harder to hit they have simmilar fp jeter and rollins. Plus jeter is a better hitter.

And for the same reasons I mentioned above, Jeter isn't close to Rollins or Reyes. Rollins I think has his offensive overrated some, but he is still a very good hitter and a top notch defender.

HEY WATCH IT!!

actually I'd love for Rollins to give up leading off and move down in the lineup but he'll never do it. maybe when he gets a bit older. His problem is he doesn't get on base enough. He's gotten better in the last couple of years but prior to 2005 he was kind of bad.

Krod had a down year 2007 era und 150 and 90 plus strikeouts

Putz 2007 era under 150 and 100 plus strikeouts

Krod was said to make 5 years 75 mill
But omar got 3 years 37 mill

Just because Rawlings says Young is a gold glover doesnt mean anything. Go look at some metrics or actually watch him play defense. Hes solid, but not a top 5 SS on D. Gold Gloves are a joke that the MLB has basically nothing to do with.

if it weren't for fantasy baseball Reyes would never enter any argument for a top SS

I hate yyankee fans more than phillies

Dude reyes number are 2x better than jeters you are a hater please write sanely about reyes. Oooooo mmyyy ggooodddddd

beastOftheEast why do you hate Yankee fans more than Phillies fans. Or why do you hate either of us? Is it because we have shortstops who actually do something in clutch spots rather than choke or have world series rings on their fingers? Or is it because both teams ruin your year time after time one way or another?