Odds and Ends: Michaels, Greene, Prior

I would keep Justin Masterson in the bullen for a year or two until he's more mature. Right now, if Boston can sign a FA starter, that'll be nice. If not, i think it'll be nice to have Clay and Justin rotate around that 5th starter position. Justin masterson can slowly move toward starter by being a long reliefer behind Dice K if Dice K's short inning pitch continues

"If the Tigers give up Larish AND Joyce as a PART of a trade package for Jack Wilson, I will be embarrassed to be a Tigers fan. Maybe even more embarrassed than when they signed Dontrelle Willis to his extension."

I believe the proposed deal would be for either one or the other,along with a pitching prospect, but not both.

Oh god. Jay Jaffe is a moron. I understand and do agree with Teixeira is a better sign for the Yankees than Sabathia, not only because of the awesome defense, but also because it keeps Teixeira out of the Red Sox' hands (the Sox won't/shouldn't sign CC) but the rest of this is ridiculous.

If the Giants trade Randy Winn, it should be for prospects, NOT a guy who can't even play OF anymore. LOL @ not even taking into account what the other team would want in a trade.

And, I think Lowe will be just fine in the AL, its just that Lowe with a middle infield of Cano and Jeter just doesn't cut it in a non-cupcake division.

If the Yankees want a CF who will not cost them anything in prospects, why not Juan Pierre? I mean, Jaffe has made comments that blatantly implied that Juan Pierre had positive trade value.

If EITHER Larish or Joyce are traded for Wilson I will be too embarrassed to be a Tiger fan.

Why is Kahalil Greene worth a relif pitcher with 5 IP in the majors and a PTBNL and one year of Jack Wilson is worth a 23 year old OF who did well his rookie year?

This makes no sense. It would be worse than the Renteria trade.

"Why is Kahalil Greene worth a relif pitcher with 5 IP in the majors and a PTBNL and one year of Jack Wilson is worth a 23 year old OF who did well his rookie year?"

Probably because Detroit wants the Bucs to eat most of Wilson's salary....

MacRae-

Wilson was worth a whole win more than Greene, that's why. Khalil was a replacement level player; Wilson was a good bit above replacement player. And, the Padres aren't kicking in salary. If the Pirates kick in salary, then asking for ONE of Larish or Joyce is acceptable.

But it's still a terrible move. When were talking guys like Putno, Wilson and Everett we're not exactly talking cream of the crop shortstops. Trading away 20-25 HR power plus solid RF defense in a 23 year old Joyce for one year of 3 wins is just an awful trade.

Mozeliak said the Ludwick to Atlanta talk was just rumor...per Bernie M. at his press box.

http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=591751

sure

"The Tigers don't have the cash this offseason for that."

I'm not saying that The Tigers will go out and sign Cruz and Wood, however I don't think anyone knows what exactly The Tigers are willing to spend.

We know for sure that they want to stay around what they spent last year but for the right players it's been suggested that they could bump payroll ever so slightly.

A combo of any of the SS/C they're looking at is going to cost about $6m. That then leaves them with about $8m more dollars to spend before they reach last season's payroll. If they spend that $8m on Wood than it's possible but not likely that Beimel (but not Cruz) could also be had. However, Cruz and Beimel could potentially fit into their budget plans.

I really hope The Tigers know what they have in Joyce and don't waste him on one year of SS defense. It's a ridiculously assinine steal and with what The Pirates are asking for Wilson it's no wonder trade talks for him have gotten railroaded in the past.

Enchinga, I'll admit that his stat was BS, but Joyce did slug almost .500 in 3/4ths of a season and got on base at a .340 clip..

I probably need to clarify that the 242 ABs were his 242 MLB ABs.

He has the potential to become a 20-25 homerun guy annually, with plenty of doubles, and that power could begin to come out in the very near future.

Joyce is another classic corner outfield, with the arm for right, but the instincts, athleticism, and speed to handle left field in spacious Comerica Park. Former Manager Matt Walbeck likened Joyce’s overall ability to that of Jim Edmonds, and having already impressed the front office types in Detroit, he could get a chance in Detroit by the start of 2009.

This is one scouting report
http://tigers.scout.com/2/737945.html

I can find more praise of his power if you're really gonna rake me over the coals on this one.