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According to ESPN's Buster Olney:
Keep hearing this: Players like Jason Giambi and Bobby Abreu might be forced, by circumstance, to settle for one-year offers.
That has to be what the Rays and A's are hoping - these would be excellent one-year signings. The Yankees' decision not to offer arbitration to Abreu is looking prescient.
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Tampa should go for Abreu, guy can hit.
Posted by: Cyyoung | December 31, 2008 at 10:51 AM
Abreu for one year?? Maybe the Braves could sweeten that and sign him for 1 year with an option, that way we dont block Heyward when he is ready.
Posted by: JonB. | December 31, 2008 at 10:55 AM
If Abreu can be had for a one year deal, wouldn't it make sense for a cap sensitive team to sign him to a one year deal with an option? He might not be a star or a good defensive player, but he can hit and isn't that what you want a DH to do more than anything else?
Posted by: tolo316 | December 31, 2008 at 10:57 AM
I think a lot of teams would take Abreu for one year. I know the outfield is full, but I would like to see the Redbirds give him a one year deal, then trade the extra OF
Posted by: Redbirdfan | December 31, 2008 at 10:59 AM
Cashman really is looking smarter and smarter as time is going on this offseason. If he had offered arbitration to Giambi and Abreu they both would have accepted and the Yankees would have had their hands tied when it came down to Teixeira. I still think Mussina should have been offered but the result would have probably been the same.
Posted by: Joe | December 31, 2008 at 11:14 AM
I would be shocked if Abreu couldn't get more than a year. I can understand about Giambi, but Abreu's still got a few decent years left in him.
Posted by: drphonic7 | December 31, 2008 at 11:17 AM
I'd take Abreu on the Mets for one year.
Posted by: kerelcooper | December 31, 2008 at 11:24 AM
At only 1 year deal, its gonna have to be a fat deal. Like 16-18 mill per.
Posted by: NedCollettiClueless | December 31, 2008 at 11:35 AM
Still, on top of a one year deal, you'd be getting perhaps draft picks after just a year, or you could swing Abreu/Giambi at the trade deadline if you were out of it. I don't see why any teams wouldn't be jumping all over this.
Posted by: CubbyFan23 | December 31, 2008 at 12:03 PM
Keep in mind that Abreu would have had to accept arbitration before december 7th, something no free agent other then 2 MR did.
So its hard to know if at that point the free agents would've decided to accept arbitration.
Posted by: Sephrath | December 31, 2008 at 12:09 PM
"At only 1 year deal, its gonna have to be a fat deal. Like 16-18 mill per."
If Abreu had played last year entirely at DH, and not crushed his value with some awful defense he would've been worth about 11 million dollars of production.
If the Rays or the Athletics can play them off each other as being interchangable and get them down to 1 year/10 million then it is worth it.
Posted by: ArodSucksAtLife | December 31, 2008 at 12:19 PM
"If Abreu can be had for a one year deal, wouldn't it make sense for a cap sensitive team to sign him to a one year deal with an option? He might not be a star or a good defensive player, but he can hit and isn't that what you want a DH to do more than anything else"
Cap sensitive???? this isnt the nfl lol
Posted by: Trust in Beane | December 31, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Of course Theo offered Varitek arbitration and he declined. Stupid for Varitek but smart for Theo. Now Boston can sign him on the cheap or someone else signs him and we get draft picks.
Posted by: SierraM | December 31, 2008 at 12:36 PM
Nice use of the word prescient
Posted by: Scotio | December 31, 2008 at 12:42 PM
"I would be shocked if Abreu couldn't get more than a year. I can understand about Giambi, but Abreu's still got a few decent years left in him."
It is not that they cant get more than one year. It is that they are going to have to take much less than they want. and if that is the case, they might as well take a one-year deal and reenter the market next year when the situation might be better for them.
better to take a 1-year, $10MM this season and hope for more next year, rather than a 3-year, $21-24MM deal.
Posted by: Cork Gaines | December 31, 2008 at 12:45 PM
"Of course Theo offered Varitek arbitration and he declined. Stupid for Varitek but smart for Theo. Now Boston can sign him on the cheap or someone else signs him and we get draft picks."
Which is why I am not sure this makes Cashman's not offering of arbitration look smart.
Based on the past two years, only 4 total free agents have accepted arbitration, 3 of them have been MR. Now that arbitration has to be accepted before the winter meetings (Dec 7th), Players cannot use it as a fall back, and its rare a player wont test the market for a multi year deal and take a 1 year deal.
Posted by: Sephrath | December 31, 2008 at 12:54 PM
As you get older you forget things, can anybody tell me the trade for Abreu to the Yanks. Thanks
Posted by: Cyyoung | December 31, 2008 at 01:32 PM
cashman correctly predicted the market for guys like abreu and dunn wouldnt be booming. If there was any chance bobby accepted arbitration that most certainly would have precluded them from the teixeira sweepstakes. It was a smart move ultimately but i think also made out of caution.
cyyoung abre and corey lidle were mostly salary dumps traded to the yankees fo cj henry a former first rounder (whos actually playing bball for memphis now while the yankees pay his tuition... ouch) and a couple other middling prospects. Yankees pretty much didn't give up anything noteworthy.
Posted by: Casanova Wong | December 31, 2008 at 01:49 PM
Damn. And I thought not offering those guys arbitration was a huge mistake. Maybe it still was because they wouldn't have expected their value to fall so far (I agree with Sephrath's thinking), but still.
On second thought, offering Giambi arbitration might have yielded another $20 million or so for him. So that was a good decision. Abreu may not have been though.
Man, if the price on Abreu is that low, we should ship Nady (and maybe Swisher) out and bring him back. A 3-4-5 of Abreu/A-Rod/Teixeira would be perfect.
Posted by: NYYanksCaptain23 | December 31, 2008 at 02:25 PM
Abreu was one of the best trades the Yankees have made in recent years, they practically stole him from the Phillies, though it was an unfortunate tragedy with what happened to Lidle.
I really like Abreu as a player, he's a great guy. If he can hit .280/.370/.513 like marcel projects he's a good player to have even with diminished defense. He would make a good OF/DH for a lot of teams. His projected 76 walks is well above the projected league average of 54. I hope he gets a good contract somewhere. He could fit well on the Mets or the Angels. I wouldn't want to see him on the Rays, the Yankees and Red Sox will already have enough trouble there.
I think the problem is all these teams don't want to be forced into these long term deals with players in their mid-30s. First there's the age factor and they are being cautious with spending since they want to make sure they can afford the players with the economy.
Posted by: Jeff Levy | December 31, 2008 at 03:07 PM
why wont the angels take a run at Abreu?? he is consistant hitter and all and plays a similar hitting game to mark texeira...I think he would take two years from the Angels. Lets say 2years/30-32 with a option for a third cause the guy can still play atleast for three or four more years.
Posted by: kingfelix93 | December 31, 2008 at 04:43 PM