Peavy-Boston Possibility

Cy...

I think you may have thought I was directing my comments toward you. I wasn't. Your points are all valid and logical. You're right about the whole "park factor" thing too. Peavy is a frontline Ace in any park and either league.

"Better than all those guys"...

You're damn right he is!

Peavy is one of the four or five best pitchers in the game right now. And he also doesn't weigh 300+ pounds. I don't care what anyone says, if you weigh that much you are not going to last too long putting in 200+ innings a year. It's just not possible. The strain on your legs alone would be enough to start ity. The knees will go from all the pressure. The joints aren't made to handle the sort of pressure a pitcher that size will put on them either. And that's just his legs. His back is just as likely to go out first. When you tip the scales at over 300lbs. then a serious injury isn't just a possibility, it's a certainty. I'm NOT "ripping" Sabathia. He's got one of the best left arms around and last year he as great. But that still doesn't justify the history making contract he just got from th Yanks.

"Offenive line"...

He's last longer in the NFL.

I dont care if a guy looks like Elmer Fudd, just as long as he can throw that pellet.

I think the list is
C.C
Halladay
Santana
Lee
Peavy
*Not in any order*

"Sabathia is one of the top 5 pitchers in baseball, but Peavy is probably #1."

Not even close. Peavy may not even be a top 5 pitcher at this point. His slider lost some bite off of it last season, and his numbers were helped a good deal by pitching in Petco anyways.

I'd argue that the 5 best pitchers in baseball are Lincecum, Halladay, Sabathia, Santana, and after those four, there is just a toss up between Peavy, Beckett, Cliff Lee, Hamels and maybe Felix Hernandez. Guys like Sheets, Harden and Burnett would be in the conversation as well if they could stay healthy.

Again, I think you have to see more than 1 good year out of Lee before calling him in the top 5 pitchers in baseball. He was last year though...but then again, that makes Dempster a better pitcher than Peavy...which we all know isn't true.

Cliff Lee is a 29 year old with a 4.15 career ERA and a 106 career ERA+. He is not yet a top 5 pitcher in baseball.

Just my opionion.

1. Halladay
2. Santana
3. Lincecum
4. Hamels
5. Sabathia

I think I'd put Peavy as 6.

I'd agree that Peavy is #6 going into next season.

It's tough putting him in front of guys like Webb, King Felix, Lackey and Beckett, though.

Although I would be shocked if he still was by years end. I'd expect someone to emerge this season like Lincecum did. Maybe someone like Felix, Liriano, Danks, Billingsley or Gallardo.

YOu could say the same about Santana.

I will be more like

Boston get
JaKe PeAvY

San diego gets
Clay
Bowden
Lars
Kalish
Lowell
Another prospect
They want at least 6 players

They could use lowell but would prob trade lowell

If you don't get texiera

Then replace lowell with chris carter and then maybe another mid level prospect. They have the players to get it done .
Theo must decide

If that happens it look scary for those yankees

I don't see why the Red Sox should offer far more than the Cubs or Braves did. In fact, I think you could argue that the offer I proposed is superior to any offer from either one of those teams. The Padres wanted pitching, and neither of the other deals was big on pitching.

Meanwhile, my proposed deal gives them a freaking bounty of pitchers (Buchholz, Bard, Hagadone), as well as three solid although unspectacular position prospects.

Padres would never accept a deal like that. An ace that gets 15 per a year these days is a bargain and he is locked up for a while now.

" Padres would never accept a deal like that. An ace that gets 15 per a year these days is a bargain and he is locked up for a while now."

If you're talking about that 6for1 deal you have no idea what your talking about

"" Padres would never accept a deal like that. An ace that gets 15 per a year these days is a bargain and he is locked up for a while now.""

Yeah.. IF Boston was willing to do my proposed deal, Towers would probably cry.

"Kalish is like their number 9 prospect.."

Not any more. He had an okay year but showed practically no power. It's not totally clear that he can stick in center field, and if he can't, then there is almost no way he becomes a good RF unless he posts some great OBP's. He didn't make their 2009 BA Top 10 either, by the way.

The Red Sox would surely give up the position guys, but the pitchers would likely be difficult for Boston. Buchholz is of course the potential ace, but then again Hagadone also has a huge arm since coming off of surgury. And, Bard has a monster arm as well, although he can't harness it enough to be a starter.

Maybe instead of Hagadone, a lesser pitcher like Stolmy Pimental would be more fair?

That brings out the offer to:

Peavy for Buchholz, Bard, Pimental, Kalish, Navarro and Exposito.

Still a haul, but keeping Hagadone would be nice for Boston, considering his potential. I think Clay goes to SD in any Peavy deal though.

As discussed above, never did Towers say he wanted at least 6 players. That's just simply not true.

Towers is on the record for saying he'll take quality over quantity every day.

Initial talks with the Braves rumored a 3 for 1 deal (the first rumors talked about Hanson, Escobar, Schafer). Those are 3 quality guys, and Towers would have taken that in a heartbeat.

If Boston sends Bucholz, another top IF/OF prospect and a 2nd good SP prospect, it's done.

Many of you folks are not getting it. The Padres owners are in the middle of a divorce and they have to split their assets. The Padres were losing money anyway and now we are in the beginning of the worse recession since the 1930s. The Padres will almost give Peavey away at some point to move salary. Offer Bard and maybe Kalish and this is a done deal. That's definitely substantial enough value to do this deal. Very few teams are in a position to pick up new salaries at all. The Mets owners just lost $300 mil on the Maloff fiasco. The Yanks just signed very expensive pitchers. The Cubs are being sold. Atlanta is too cheap when it comes right down to it. The Redsox are in a good position on this one. Look what happened to the price of gas when demand went down 2%. MLB free agents better sign fast while they can. The landscape is changing quickly.

I forgot about the colon trade that sent cliff lee, sizemore, and brandon phillips to cleveland....wow what a steal that was...gota love those montreal expos