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John Smoltz Rumors

9:30pm: Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski confirmed interest in Smoltz.

6:56pm: MLB.com's Jason Beck says at least seven teams have shown some level of interest in Smoltz.

4:04pm: Rosenthal says "the Braves are prepared to lose Smoltz if another team offers him a significant guarantee on a one-year deal."

2:53pm: Jerry Crasnick indicates Tom Glavine doesn't have the same open-mindedness to other teams as Smoltz.  For Glavine it's probably the Braves or retirement.  Glavine's ahead of schedule in his rehab.

2:10pm: Nick Cafardo says Smoltz still prefers Atlanta but is also considering the Red Sox, Mets, and Tigers.  The Tigers' interest appears to be mutual, according to Jon Paul Morosi.

1:54pm: Sean McAdam says the Red Sox have had discussions with Smoltz's agent.  They've checked in on tons of free agents though, perhaps as a ruse.

WEDNESDAY, 11:43am: ESPN's Peter Gammons says the Red Sox are one of the teams that received Smoltz's medical info.

TUESDAY: Rosenthal says Smoltz's agents are passing out medical info to teams.  Rosenthal spoke to one GM who believed Smoltz might be willing to leave the Braves.

MONDAY: Since the Braves have yet to offer a contract to rehabbing pitcher John Smoltz, Ken Rosenthal wonders if other teams will jump in with bids.  But rest easy, Braves fans.  Everyone still expects Smoltz to re-sign with Atlanta.


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Things like that is why I think Rosenthal just posts random crap to fill up his blog...

He has to be one of the worst in baseball reporting.

I'll cry if Smoltz leaves. Ok, not cry but I'll be very sad and mad and disappointed with Wren.

He's not going anywhere. You saw how Bobby Cox was raving over how well his rehab went.

Question: "Will other teams bid on Smoltz?"
Answer: "Who cares, he won't sign with a team besides Atlanta"

Rosenthal just writes this crap to get people talking. It's totally ridiculous and he knows it.

According to a teammate and golfing buddy of Smoltz, the Brewers have made multiples calls to him about coming in as the Brewers' closer.

Hes not even close to one of the worst.

Smoltz leaving the Braves would almost be like a spit in the face to the fans, and Smoltz no matter what he has said about money and the way the Braves front office in the past cares first and foremost what he looks like in the eyes of the fans...that is always one thing I have respected about him...We will retain him...no matter what...

chicubs25:

He's not as bad as Phillips but he does write some CRAP! You little Cubbie fans seem to have something smart to post to Braves fans all the time! Just shut your little trap and enjoy another dissapointing Cubs team in '09!! Don't come back with lame ass comments that we haven't been anywhere in 3 years either! It's really played out since your little pathetic team hasen't been anywhere since my Great Grandfather was in diapers!!

"According to a teammate and golfing buddy of Smoltz"

Francouer and Glavine are his golfing buddies. And Tiger Woods.

Land-Man you left out Maddux and Hudson as golf buddies.

Well, last I checked Tiger wasn't on the active roster, so I guess you narrowed it down to 2.

well wisbrave last year in an interview with smoltz post-injury he said, he would be playing golf with Maddux for the first time in over a year during the Padre/Braves games...

but of course he didn't get too because he was hurt...

First of all im a baseball fan first, and my comment had nothing to do with the cubs or braves. Secondly dont come at me as a person, this is sports leave it at that. Third, i wouldnt come at the braves in any way there one of the most successful team in the last 20 years i have nothing bad to say about them, i usually end up watching alot of their games on TBS.

Of course you just made me respect braves fans a little less for generalizing cub fans, and even bringing cub fans up in a post that had nothing to do with them.

What about a return to the Tigers? It was rumored a few years ago. If he goes anywhere besides Atlanta my money would be on Detroit.

I cant see him leaving Atlanta.

I only see him leaving Atlanta if they don't offer him a contract.

All baseball reporters write crap in their blogs.

As far as actual accurate news when it happens, Rosenthal is always one of the first.

Just because he posts filler stories like this at busy times doesn't mean he's bad. Everyone does it.

Rosenthal's very good.

If he's not a Brave, he'll be a Tiger.

Smoltz should retire so he could go into the Hall with Maddux.

agreed chicubs25.

i can't see him anywhere else. its just not right but you can't fault him for wanting to pitch. His will be a good argument come HOF time.

It makes perfect sense for Smoltz to hedge his bets and pass around his medical info, but if the Braves make him a reasonable offer, he'll be back in Atlanta for sure. He'll be a lot cheaper than AJ Burnett or any other free agent starter the Braves could sign as their ace, so if reports on his rehab continue to be as glowing as they have been so far, there's no reason for Wren not to bring him back.

I love how Rosenthal suggests that Smoltz might go elsewhere and all the Braves fans get riled up and start calling Rosenthal a hack and all this. Again, Rosenthal is probably the best in this business. If you don't like Rosenthal, I can't imagine what you think about Olney, Gammons, Heyman, Stark etc.

As for the hall of fame, Smoltz should be an absolute lock.

"chicubs25:

He's not as bad as Phillips but he does write some CRAP! You little Cubbie fans seem to have something smart to post to Braves fans all the time! Just shut your little trap and enjoy another dissapointing Cubs team in '09!! Don't come back with lame ass comments that we haven't been anywhere in 3 years either! It's really played out since your little pathetic team hasen't been anywhere since my Great Grandfather was in diapers!!"

Calm down loser. All he said was Rosenthal is far from the worst. He is probably the best. I don't see how that is a shot at the Braves.

Not a big surprise. His agents want to create a market for him in the unlikely event that the Braves don't offer him a contract.

It's still not that noteworthy news though, given the small chance of it happening.

NickC,

Exactly right. The Braves haven't offered Smoltz a contract yet, so what else is he going to do?

His agent wants to get an idea of the market and then go back to the Braves to negotiate.

I think anyone who isn't going to demand 4 years and 60 million dollars is worth looking at...

I would take Smoltz over AJ Burnett in this market. He was absolutely dominant 2005 - 2007 and it won't cost you much to find out what he'll give you in 2009. Solving the Burnett riddle? That'll cost a pretty penny.

Wouldn't it be fun if Smoltz signed with the Tigers to be their closer in '09? Talk about coming full circle. Hey, it could happen, Tigers need a closer and don't have much to spend. Smoltz probably isn't going to come back as a starter and isn't going to command top dollar.

Smoltz is looking to come back as a starter.

And there is no reason why the Braves can't have him as well as AJ Burnett.

I'd definitely take this rotation, regardless of loyalty or anything else:

Burnett
Smoltz
Jurrjens
Vazquez
Campillo/Morton/Parr

I'm 95% sure he stays in Atlanta. I would sob if he didn't.

I don't think the Tigers are interested. If anyone, they should just re-sign Kenny Rogers. They really don't have a place for a starter unless Robertson or Willis is moved.

I hope Smoltz does reinvent himself for the 200th time.. I'm not sure about this whole starter thing though.. my bet is going to be as a closer, but by all means, I hope I am DEAD WRONG. With regards to the Red Sox trying to get the man himself, I don't see it happening.. John Smoltz is an Atlanta Brave and I believe he always will be. He's taken a pay cut to stay in Atlanta before, he does an incredible amount for the Atlanta community, his kids have grown up in Atlanta where he has pretty much always been, and he's just a class act headed to Cooperstown with that glorious Atlanta "A" always on the front of his cap.

I'd definitely take this rotation, regardless of loyalty or anything else:

Burnett
Smoltz
Jurrjens
Vazquez
Campillo/Morton/Parr

I'm 95% sure he stays in Atlanta. I would sob if he didn't.

That 5th spot will look more like Campillo/Hanson. The the one who doesn't make it will get the spot after Smoltz goes on the DL.

I just have 1 question. DOES PETER GAMMONS EVER REPORT ON A TEAM BESIDES THE RED SOX? I swear, every one of his articles is about that group of jabronies from Boston. He has the biggest man-crush on Terry Francona I've ever seen and he focuses 95% of his reporting on that team. I guess he's the only one who hasn't had it up to here with Red Sox nation.

Oh yeah, Smoltz isn't going anywhere.

And yes, like I'm sure somebody said in this thread (I didn't read anything but the comment above me), Smoltz will NOT be the closer for the Braves or any other team. He will be in a rotation. It will be Atlanta's (99% sure). It's more physically demanding on a pitcher's body to be in a bullpen because of the unpredictability of it vs. being in a regiment of 5 days and Smoltz prefers the rotation anyway so he's not closing, he's starting.

Actually, it might be JoJo, if for no reason than he's lefthanded. I didn't want to forget Parr, either - he was great at the end of the year.

I'd lose some respect for Smoltz if he'd jump to the Red Sox. He just wouldn't look right in any other uniform.

John "My Worst Season Ever Was Still an All Star Season" Smoltz? Yeah, I'd take him on a pure winning principle. That said, even as a Sox fan, I don't really want to see him in our uniform. Not because I doubt his ability, his worst full seasons were years most pitchers would kill to equal, but because he's a Brave through and through. Twenty years on one roster is not something we will probably ever see again and I really just don't want to take that away from the Braves. It should be Braves or retirement for Smoltz.

AtlantaBred it makes sense that Gammons reports on the Red Sox a lot, he used to write for the Boston Globe. He has "connections" in Boston. Its like Stark with the phillies or Olney with the Yankees.

Another point about Smoltz (and Glavine, for that matter) -- Dave O'Brien has reported several times that Liberty has told him it is not counting any money it would pay Smoltz or Glavine against the rumored $40-45 million they will spend this off-season.

So if Vazquez takes up $11.5 mill and AJ even $18, the club still has about $10-15 to spend on a hitter. And can still sign (or not sign) Smoltz or Glavine.

$10-15 million, that is!

I think some of you owe Rosenthal an apology...

Considering the Mets...yea, okay Cafardo. Smoltz is definitely one of those players who would not go to a rival team...

Smoltz to the Mets? You've gotta be kidding me. He's too much of a man to do that.

I think hell will freeze over before Smoltz ever becomes a Met.

haha. He's gonna pull a Tommy Glavine??? hmmm.

Not to get off topic but why haven't we heard anything about Orlando Hudson?

Smoltz is just using the other teams as leverage to get more money from the Braves.

"smoltz is old, useless. he better stay in the NL, he wont last a inning in the AL"

His career numbers tell me you don't know what you're talking about. Smoltz may be old as dirt, but his body doesn't seem to have put two and two together on that. He's looking like he's without an actual expiration date.

What kind of contract is Smoltz looking for?

It would be nice for Tigers to make a bid, but we have so many bullpen issues, I think we need to straighten those out first with couple decent signings/trades

If Smoltz plays for the Mets I'll cut my own head off.

2:10pm: Nick Cafardo says Smoltz still prefers Atlanta but is also considering the Red Sox, Mets, and Tigers.

NO, HE'S NOT CONSIDERING THE RED SOX, METS, OR TIGERS. Stop writing crap to fill up your blog page.

"Smoltz is just using the other teams as leverage to get more money from the Braves."

Most likely what is happening. I don't think he would leave Braves or their fans if they offered a competitive deal. If they lowball him bad, Wren is an idiot

does he want to start or relieve?

i'd love to add smoltz to the red sox bullpen..

either way really.. i'd take a flyer on him for 1 year.

Calm down, Braves fans. Look at the lead to the Cafardo post:

"John Smoltz wants to pitch for a team that could take him to the World Series. He hopes that's Atlanta, but Smoltz is considering Boston, the New York Mets, and his hometown Detroit Tigers as possible destinations according to a major league source."

Not according to Smoltz, or even his agent, but a "major league source."

I call BS.

I don't think Smoltz will go anywhere. I think he is trying to get the Braves to hurry up and offer him a reasonable contract.

Smoltz wasn't sure if he was looking to start or relieve. If he did relieve, it would almost certainly not be as a full-time closer.

He just can't work his arm on that schedule. Up and down in the pen all the time. Pitching 2 or 3 nights in a row then not pitching for a week.

If he was in the pen it would probably be something like pitching every 2 or 3 games, maybe for more than one inning.

But after his recent session throwing off the mound he was feeling like he would be able to start, which is always what he's prefered.

But I think the most important note is that that session was with Roger McDowell and Bobby Cox. I mean, both he and the Braves are acting as if he's already on the team.

It's only a matter of time.

As for the other stuff, it's just his agents doing their job and reporters doing what we want them to do: report every little thing that happens, even if it has no chance of amounting to anything.

Now Smoltz is considering the Mets??? Give me a break. I swear, these dumb writers just want to get their names out there, so they make things up.

I wouldn't read to much in this. It's just to get the Braves to pay him what he think he is worth.

I agree with Smoltz's Beard I will also be cutting off my head if he goes to the Mets. This source must be Keith Hernandez.

For all us Braves fans, I mean seriously how many times now has Smoltzie done this, almost too many to count...we all know it's becuase he is trying to make sure he gets not less than an 8-10 million deal...

Waiting for reports that the Kansas City Braves inquired about Smoltz and Glavine.

I've been a die hard Braves fan since 1990 when I was 7 years old and they were on TBS all the time...

I watched Glavine flee to the Mets 6 years ago, who's to say Smoltzy won't do the same? You don't know what a player will or won't do until they say it themselves... I personally don't think He'd EVER go to the Mets, but then again, I didn't think Glav would do it either...


Cafardo is a F*ckin idiot... He says the Tigers obviously cuz Smoltz was originally drafted by them...and the Mets, who knows? Maybe cuz Glavine fled the Braves for the Mets and he figures Smoltzy might do the same... The Sox are in the mix on everyone so it seams, no secret there.

NO WAY SMOLTZ LEAVES ATLANTA...


Repeat after me : NNOO WAY SMOLTZ LEAVES ATLANTA!

Wow another confirmation Smoltz might leave.

Weren't you all throwing a hissy fit a few hours ago?

What is significant?? His 2007 salary was 8 mil, I think that is a decent figure. As a Braves fan I would be hestitant over that figure.

He's not leaving. I spoke with his agent today and he's staying with the Braves. If you take the previous statement seriously than you're free to believe he might leave too because that's how far fetched the thought of him leaving is. That sorta didn't make sense, but you get it.

LOL at believing that's actually Chipper Jones posting on that blog.

Hey, I too can pretend to speak to agents.


U Kno Who is Chipper unless it got hacked or something. He's posted on that many times before and it's been confirmed that it was him.

Cardsfan387,

that is actually chipper jones. he posted under that handle about a year ago and dave o'brien verified it. since then, that handle has been password protected so only he can post.

I hope Smoltz stays with the Braves as well as Glavine. But we can't count on those two to lead our rotation this year. And we definitely can't count on Wren to get us a d**** ace either!

"He's not leaving. I spoke with his agent today and he's staying with the Braves."

This really made me laugh.

A plethora of reports that Smoltz is exploring options, likely just creating leverage.

And some armchair gm wants us to believe that not only does he communicate with Smoltz agent but that this agent for whatever reason confirmed to him that his client was going nowhere.

Didnt happen.

Wait, I could find only one U Kno who post and it was a joke?

Seriously. All of the sudden any writer that links Smoltz to some other team is now a hack? Calm down Braves fans. Jesus Christ.

""He's not leaving. I spoke with his agent today and he's staying with the Braves."

This really made me laugh.

A plethora of reports that Smoltz is exploring options, likely just creating leverage.

And some armchair gm wants us to believe that not only does he communicate with Smoltz agent but that this agent for whatever reason confirmed to him that his client was going nowhere.

Didnt happen."

I don't know what you're talking about, I can't decipher it. However, if you're referring to my post as a non-joke, you're wrong. It was a joke.

"I agree with Smoltz's Beard I will also be cutting off my head if he goes to the Mets. This source must be Keith Hernandez."

Was this an attempt at humor? Because it wasn't funny. Or it was so funny I forgot to laugh. One or the other.

Marijuana promotes short-term memory loss.

Indeed it does.

Waiting for reports that the Kansas City Braves inquired about Smoltz and Glavine.

Posted by: MPM | December 10, 2008 at 03:24 PM

Haha MPM good stuff. I think Dayton Moore has taken his time with the braves too seriously seems like they're in on every former brave (ie furcal now or the frency rumors) or already have them (davies). never goin to build a winner that way

at least 95% of you posting on this topic have some sanity still, smoltz is going to be back in atlanta unless he's in Dr. Andrew's office. And for those of you giving wren $hit (bitter atl fans) let's wait and see what he does. I cannot fault him for what he has done so far and i feel that he will do what is necessary to get burnett to atlanta.

DOB said that it wasnt chipper, i cant believe that even made it on to this site.... The imposter is probably getting off to all this

I'm sure at least 7 teams are interested in Smoltz. If 30 teams weren't interested in John Smoltz I'd be incredibly surprised. He's an extremely good pitcher. He had an ERA of 2.57 including 2 very painful (not for me, for him. His shoulder was hurting some last year if anybody didn't know) outings last year when he gave up a total of 6 runs in 5 innings. Counting his first 4 outings only, Smoltz had a 0.78 ERA. He still throws a 97 mile and hour fastball with good life on it. He throws a low-90's slider that explodes, literally explodes, and a splitter that dives like a sea-gull eyeing a fish. There's no reason for a team to not be interested in him.

However, he's only interested in 1. Luckily, the interest is mutual.

It's either the Braves or retirement for Smoltz...He isn't switching teams this late is his career.

smoltz is old, useless. he better stay in the NL, he wont last a inning in the AL

Posted by: soxsider4life | December 08, 2008 at 02:34 PM

I wouldn't call a 2.57 ERA before he got hurt useless, and I certainly wouldn't call his 14-8, 3.11 ERA from '07 useless.

It's already been stated that smoltz is coming back as a starter when he does.

Also those talks about him being washed up are far fetched.

if you look at the starts he had when he was in pain the guy posted a 2.00 ERA. two games he posted 10 K's. Including a game where he outdueled Santana going
5ip/2H/2BB/6K's

Smoltz is def comming back and gonna still be killin it.

i personally think AJ would be even more dominant being around Smoltz and learning from him because they are similar hard throwing pitchers and over time Smoltz learned how to be a pitcher instead of a Thrower and apparently thats what AJ has been doing the last few seasons.

AJ.
Smoltz
Vazquez
JJ.
Glavine/Campillo

I personally would love to have a left handed starter but those guys right there would get it done.

With Gonzalez and Moylan returning along with hopefully Ohman the Braves wont have those same late inning issues they had this year.

I personally would love to have a left handed starter but those guys right there would get it done.

Ya, me too, but Vazquez does pitch better to lefties. I think that 5th spot will probably be for Glavine, Campillo, Reyes, or Hanson. (Reyes strictly because he's a lefty).

Great Pitcher and has done amazing things for his career. But I don't want him on the Mets. He's to old, and we have enough senior citizens on the team. I hope he stays w/ Atlanta or retires as a Brave, he deserves it.

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