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3:58pm: Joel Sherman says the Red Sox were at eight years, $168MM, so the Yankees outbid them by $12MM.
3:38pm: The contract does not include an opt-out clause, according to Danny Knobler. Knobler agrees with Olney that the Red Sox fell about $10MM short. He says the Sox are not inclined to react by "stepping up their pursuit of Derek Lowe or any other top starting pitcher."
2:55pm: Olney now agrees it's an eight-year, $180MM deal ($22.5MM per year). Bill Madden says Teixeira told the Yankees he preferred them all along, after the Angels and Red Sox backed off. Ha. Joel Sherman says the Yankees made this decision with the 2010 season in mind, given the weak free agent market. He says they'll now attempt to trade one of Johnny Damon, Hideki Matsui, Xavier Nady, and Nick Swisher.
2:26pm: Buster Olney says the Yankees have reached an agreement with Teixeira on an eight-year deal worth more than $170MM.
Aside from the Red Sox, the Brewers and Blue Jays also lose here. Each team's draft pick from the Yanks is pushed back one round - the Brewers get a second-rounder from them for C.C. Sabathia, the Jays get their third-round pick for A.J. Burnett.
2:17pm: According to Jon Heyman, the Yankees are on the verge of signing Mark Teixeira to an eight-year, $180MM deal with a full no-trade clause.
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"WE SIGN WHOEVER WE WANT! YOU SIGN WHOEVER WE DONT WANT!! GET IT"
Sadly, this is exactly correct.
No one can ever and will ever be able to outbid the Yankees in the current system.
For the other 29 groups of fans, this is why we giggle when they fail.
Posted by: SaberGuy | December 23, 2008 at 03:02 PM
NRMAXX88
I am a Mets fan and i usually agree with what you say about the Mets but to tell the Yankee fans they will regret this deal is absurd. The guy is in the prime of his career and he constantly post number os .300 30 100 year in and year out. The guy is only 28 and by the conclusion of this contract he will be 36 and thats still young enough to get another big contract like Yankee77 stated before. Congrats! Next year Mets are going to sign Vlad though =/ ....
Posted by: Rolling{Night}Hawk{09} | December 23, 2008 at 03:02 PM
"The most egregious part of their spending spree is that the taxpayers of New York will have funded $450 million of the new stadium costs, when all is said and done."
No they're not. The funding is all in bonds, which means the team has to repay it. The only thing the city is paying for is mass transit and other infrastructure improvements. You know, the stuff cities are supposed to pay for.
Posted by: yanksfan | December 23, 2008 at 03:02 PM
"Countdown until Tex gets blown away by Pabelbon in April series in the 9th inning and is then booed for the next 8 years continually."
At least it takes some heat off of me.
- ARod
Posted by: studio179 | December 23, 2008 at 03:02 PM
I was a Yankees fan during the days Claudell Washington, Butch Wynegar, Danny Tartabull, Mike Pagliarullo, etc. They never made the playoffs during those days. I was, am, and always will be a Yankees fan. I hate bandwagon Yankee fans just as much as anyone.
Posted by: EmpireStrkesBack | December 23, 2008 at 03:03 PM
mother of god.
I can't wait for them to not make the playoffs I'm going to laugh the entire postseason.
Stop comparing the lost contracts to the new ones... 2 of the largest contracts in baseball history have been signed this offseason by the yanks and they already have 2 of the other largest in jeter and a-rod. I'm sure if I was a Yanks fan too I'd stick up for my team, but you have to realize that this will ruin baseball in general and if they win this year they clearly bought their title. pep~
Posted by: Giant Deric | December 23, 2008 at 03:03 PM
The Yankees are still NOT going to win the World Series
Burnett was a horrible signing...shades of Carl Pavano a few years back. Posada, Jeter, Damon, and Matsui are all old and on their way out. Signing Tex and CC is great but they still have zero chemistry.
This reeks of Hank Steinbrenner
Posted by: SciosciaHeartburnDiarrhea | December 23, 2008 at 03:03 PM
Metsobsessed...are you really that dumb or do you just act like it here?
You know NOTHING about being a REAl fan, so stick to what you know..if there is anything.
Michal Kay id reporting that the Sox offer was 10 mil more but he wanted to play for the Yanks.
I wonder what this does to the credibility of the Dominican paper that said the Manny signing would be announced by today.
Posted by: yankeegirl49 | December 23, 2008 at 03:04 PM
Can someone tell me what their payroll is sitting at right now?
Posted by: juiced | December 23, 2008 at 02:54 PM
I've got the Yankees at a 2009 payroll of $208,350,000 (which includes $10 million for Pettitte but does not include Nady's arbitration number which should be approximately $8 million).
In total, the Yankees now have guaranteed player contract obligations of $941,850,000 for the years 2009-2017.
Posted by: midtown | December 23, 2008 at 03:04 PM
The most egregious part of their spending spree is that the taxpayers of New York will have funded $450 million of the new stadium costs, when all is said and done. For those keeping score, that is $410 million spent on free agent contracts. What a disgusting joke that this is where our tax dollars go (I live in NYC).
Me too and you know what mlb spending doesnt bother me its entertainment its when this city makes millions a day from the subways and tolls and complain they are broke. not to mention we been paying the highest taxes in the nation long b4 the yankees were called " The Evil Empire
Posted by: Nyc Supernova | December 23, 2008 at 03:05 PM
What a great offseason to be a Yankee Fan!!!!!!!!
I really didnt think we have any shot at him.
I guess he really didnt want to go to the redsox
GO YANKEES!!!!!!!
Posted by: Dynasty26 | December 23, 2008 at 03:05 PM
Tex in Pinstripes? Who Cares. He is not going to win the championship for NY anyway. They should have paid their ex manager the money, and had a real field leader guide them. Girardi is a Muppet.
Posted by: Mannywood'09 | December 23, 2008 at 03:06 PM
Now the Sabathia deal doesn't look like such a win-win for the Brewers. LaPorta is no doubt, much more valuable than a Sandwich + 2nd rounder.
Posted by: Teetz1 | December 23, 2008 at 03:06 PM
Not only do i think that it is disgusting that the yankees were able to afford Tex, after getting hit with their 20M luxary tax the other day, and spending 418 M this off season, but i hate the yankees fans attitudes. THey signed CC, this would be enough for any other team. But no. All you asked is hey when are we gonna get AJ. You signed AJ, then it was when are we gonna sign Tex. YOu got Tex, now its when you think we will get Manny?
Some of you even think you will get Peavy. Every one of your prospects are over rated and you think they are gods.
In all honesty, i hope these players cannot play together and you choke again.
Posted by: Anarchyx | December 23, 2008 at 03:06 PM
Great post. I feel just like you, only I am not a Yankee fan. I am glad there is atleast one of you who realizes this is not a very good signing. Sabathia was great. I don't even mind Burnett. But I hate, hate, hate this deal, for any team, not just the Yankees. 8 years for a firstbaseman? Gross.
Posted by: nrmax88 | December 23, 2008 at 03:01 PM
So signing an overweight pitcher for 8 years is better than signing a first basemen for 8 years?
Alrighty then.
Posted by: astralpanda | December 23, 2008 at 03:06 PM
1.) I love how Red Sox fans are on here saying they are happy Tex went to the Yankees because they don't want to "buy" a WS. Hate to break it to you guys...but you already paid for 2 WS
2.) Though the Yanks are spending like never before, this time its on the right players. These are all players entering their prime. The Yankees of past paid for over priced veterans on their way out (Giambi, Randy Johnson, Kevin Brown)
3.) I wonder what this means for Swisher/Damon/Matsui. I would assume Damon is safe since we need a lead off hitter. Matsui would net the least even though I think he is solid as a DH and one of the best hitters on the team (even with Tex) when healthy. Swisher sounds like the best trade chip....but where does he go and for who? We already seem to have a solid team from 1-9 all 5 SP spots and the bullpen seems set.
Posted by: yanks09 | December 23, 2008 at 03:07 PM
Merry Teixmas to all and to all a good night!
Posted by: jnr98 | December 23, 2008 at 03:08 PM
sox fans, maybe players dont want to sign with the sox because of their management/owner? just thought id throw it out there
Posted by: EastCoastie | December 23, 2008 at 03:09 PM
"sox fans have every right to be confident... sure you guys have had much more success than the yankees inrecent years, so you have bragging rights, but dont say this is a bad signing, hes over rated, hes not a real good player, when every sox fan wanted him before today. come on guys, just give props"
Its a bad signing, he is not great, and he is overrated. Good player, 8 years 180 million dollars good? Not even close. Adam Dunn for 2/30, or Mark Teixeira for 8/180? Adam Dunn. D-U-N-N, in perfect cursive. Any more brain busters?
Posted by: nrmax88 | December 23, 2008 at 03:09 PM
over 300 posts in just 10 mins lol
Posted by: YankeeFan4life | December 23, 2008 at 03:09 PM
So who gets the Yanks' first rounder? Brewers or Angels?
Posted by: melonis rex | December 23, 2008 at 03:09 PM
im a red sox fan i won 2 world series in 90 years and the yankees are stupid for fixing their team wahhhh poor me...and everybody is talking about the yankees gettin old hows your only big hitting threat big papi dick doin??
Posted by: Johnny Cash | December 23, 2008 at 03:10 PM
So for the Yanks that's it for type A free agents?
Posted by: kdub | December 23, 2008 at 03:10 PM
Lemme jus also say this been a long time reader and everytime the yanks get somebody everybody starts to complain. PULL YOUR SKIRTS DOWN and quit complaining. If your owners cared about the team more than buying a new yacht your teams might just have some money to spend on FA's
Posted by: Nyc Supernova | December 23, 2008 at 03:10 PM
Johnny Cash and Champs26Times
I am sure all of the People who don't do sports and have never cared for it, love paying for the brand new stadium.
This sounds crazy but with the economy in the toliet.. MLB,the NFL, and the NBA need to start cutting salaries, (I exclude the NHL, well cause its the NHL)
The way we are heading as a collective(the working class) very soon the sports games we take on in person(for top dollar) as a luxury will become too much for us. And then throw these Sports Franchises in a downward spiral..
This recession will not end when Obama brings the change..
Posted by: 661dodgerblue | December 23, 2008 at 03:10 PM
dunn= 6000 strikeouts in inoportune times
Posted by: EastCoastie | December 23, 2008 at 03:10 PM
"Actually he was overrated way before that, and you will regret this deal. And I can't wait to hear the Yankee fans complain on the radio shows how they sign all these guys and how they still can't win a division. Countdown until Tex gets blown away by Pabelbon in April series in the 9th inning and is then booed for the next 8 years continually."
Teix is overrated? Uh...
Posted by: CubbyFan23 | December 23, 2008 at 03:11 PM
my god this is sickening and terrifying
Posted by: Roy Hobbs | December 23, 2008 at 03:11 PM
$10 says the Yanks don't win the WS in 2009.
Posted by: philsWSchamps | December 23, 2008 at 03:12 PM
maybe other teams should use prfit sharing for what it was intended to... SIGNING OF PLAYERS!
Posted by: EastCoastie | December 23, 2008 at 03:12 PM
"$10 says the Yanks don't win the WS in 2009."
agreed.
Posted by: 661dodgerblue | December 23, 2008 at 03:12 PM
If Tex Wanted to play in Bean town he would've signed last week
Posted by: Nyc Supernova | December 23, 2008 at 03:13 PM
"$10 says the Yanks don't win the WS in 2009."
Based on what?
Posted by: CubbyFan23 | December 23, 2008 at 03:13 PM
Can we PLEASE archive this thread ASAP so we can show it to all of these smug Yankee "fans" when they inevitably fall flat on their faces once again?
Posted by: stellar | December 23, 2008 at 03:13 PM
"NRMAXX88
I am a Mets fan and i usually agree with what you say about the Mets but to tell the Yankee fans they will regret this deal is absurd. The guy is in the prime of his career and he constantly post number os .300 30 100 year in and year out. The guy is only 28 and by the conclusion of this contract he will be 36 and thats still young enough to get another big contract like Yankee77 stated before. Congrats! Next year Mets are going to sign Vlad though =/ ...."
Like I said, Helton and Giambi were both much better at the time of their signings then Tex ever has been. Giambi put up numbers Tex couldn't even dream of. Same with Helton. Mega deals for first baseman are stupid. Albert would be the exception. I am not asking anybody to agree with me. I don't care. I know this contract will turn out bad, one way or the other. Whether anybody agrees or disagrees with me makes no difference.
Posted by: nrmax88 | December 23, 2008 at 03:14 PM
Bill Madden says Teixeira told the Yankees he preferred them all along, after the Angels and Red Sox backed off.
right... NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY FOR BOSTON
Posted by: EastCoastie | December 23, 2008 at 03:14 PM
I hope the Nats get Dunn. Smarter signing IMO, regardless of what some naysayers say. And then they draft Strasburg.
Posted by: melonis rex | December 23, 2008 at 03:14 PM
I can't believe that people are happy about this deal. It is seriously laughable. I have had to listen to Yankee fans complain about Giambi for years, and now they give out a bigger contract to a less productive player..... and everybody loves it. Good luck paying that much money to a 1B who may or may not be among the top 5 in baseball. What a horrible signing.
Posted by: nrmax88 | December 23, 2008 at 02:33 PM
If it's the Yankees, it's horrible, but if it's the Nats, O's, or Red Sox, it's not? lol
BTW, enjoy the Manny signing of the Mets, what will you think of that then?
Posted by: mike923 | December 23, 2008 at 03:15 PM
The Empire Strikes Back.
After signing CC, AJ & Tex, nothing would surprise me anymore. If I were a free agent and I truly wanted to win, the Yankees would have to be the team.
I wonder if Cashmoney mentioned the Tex move to CC & AJ to get them onboard.
Posted by: InvalidUserID | December 23, 2008 at 03:15 PM
"Cubby fan, Still havent won a division? Nice to see u havent been paying attention to baseball for more than 2 years. Oh and u shouldnt be commenting about a team not winning something"
You idiot, I was defending the Yankees and agreeing with you.
Posted by: CubbyFan23 | December 23, 2008 at 03:15 PM
"Teix is overrated? Uh..."
Indeed he is. If he wasn't overrated, he wouldn't have made so much money. I know for a fact this deal will suck for the Yankees by the time all is said and done, so I am quite ready to take any heat anybody wants to give. Doesn't matter. 8/180 for a good first baseman? Gross.
Posted by: nrmax88 | December 23, 2008 at 03:15 PM
Champs26Times
you are a idiot
Posted by: 661dodgerblue | December 23, 2008 at 03:15 PM
As a (rabid) Yankee fan, I am excited, but I understand the frustration of fans of other teams.
I did not in a million years expect them to land all 3 of their big free agent targets, as there were many beat reporters not 3 weeks ago lamenting the situation when the Yanks missed out on all of their free agents.
But, their rotation is much improved, their lineup is one of the best in the game, and it's looking pretty for them right now. I like this a lot better then the Giambi signing, but I definitely understand the need for a salary cap in baseball. I wonder what they're going to do with Posada and Jeter later on...
Posted by: cuponoodles | December 23, 2008 at 03:15 PM
The Yankees have reportedly traded Nick Swisher to the Atlanta Braves. Here's how the deal breaks down...
Yankees:
Jojo Reyes
Brandon Jones
cash
Braves:
Nick Swisher
Posted by: mikelovesbaseball94 | December 23, 2008 at 03:15 PM
what happened to the chat? also, with the logjam, you van have posada DH and have jeter and cano switch position for the rest of his contract (when needed)
Posted by: lakersdodgersyankees4life | December 23, 2008 at 03:16 PM
YES!!! Now if they get Manny, Best Offseason Ever!
Posted by: money941 | December 23, 2008 at 03:16 PM
Spending te most money or having the most stars does not guarantee a championship. I am hoing these signings pan out but know there is a chance they wont. To all non Yankees fans, why are you crying so loudly right now? We havent won anything. Every team in the majors has their shot when the season begins. If the Yankees win a title, then start your hate. If we don't, enjoy your time laughing in or faces. Its really juvenile people. And my fellow Yankees fas, stop acting like a title is a forgone conclusion.
Posted by: EmpireStrkesBack | December 23, 2008 at 03:16 PM
As an angel fan with an angel tattoo im extremely happy we get a draft pick, frees up space for our up and coming prospects. Ohh yeah angels will still beat the yanks and the hated red sox will get owned for years to come. Congrats Yankee fans. Nothing is worse then a red sox fan (fake and smug)
Posted by: Jordan | December 23, 2008 at 03:16 PM
"I wonder how many Yankee "fans" wouldn't be Yankee "fans" if they don't make it to the playoffs. I bet about 50% to 60%."
Posted by: BravesRockMySocks | December 23, 2008 at 02:58 PM
I think you're about right. If I dare say so, I'm a "true" Yankee fan (one of my favorite season ever was 1993, because it was just unbelievable to look at the standings and see them in 1st place), and in a way I was happy they missed the playoffs last year because I think most Yankee fans felt "entitled" to that playoff spot.
There are tons of obnoxious bandwagon fans. I do think at least half of them would be gone if the team wasn't consistently good.
Posted by: bobo | December 23, 2008 at 03:17 PM
"$10 says the Yanks don't win the WS in 2009."
Based on what?
Posted by: CubbyFan23 | December 23, 2008 at 03:13 PM
based on the fact that championships aren't won in December.
Posted by: philsWSchamps | December 23, 2008 at 03:17 PM
"If it's the Yankees, it's horrible, but if it's the Nats, O's, or Red Sox, it's not? lol
BTW, enjoy the Manny signing of the Mets, what will you think of that then?"
Actually it would have been horrible no matter what. No matter who signed him. I would love if Manny signed with the Mets, and I think if the Yankees signed Manny for a 2 or 3 year deal it would have been the best move of the offseason. The only defense Yankee fans have is just assuming we all hate this deal because it was the Yankees. I have no problem with the Yankees. Still a horrible deal. How can you compare signing Manny ( a hitter in a different universe then Tex) to a deal for 3 years, when Tex is getting 8?
Posted by: nrmax88 | December 23, 2008 at 03:17 PM
why would yankee fans want manny. you'd have manny, damon, and swisher. thats an awful outfield. And as for A-rod having .325/50/150 is not realistic due to teixeiras slow starts, trust me he's on my fantasy team and i have to put up with that every year. He's good and he'll help A-rod's numbers but not until after the all-star break
Posted by: bwoah | December 23, 2008 at 03:18 PM
I am so glad they signed these players so now they can get even more crap when they dont make the playoffs!!!! The Yanks have to many individuals on the team... its a team effort.... YANKEES WILL NOT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS IN 2009!!!
Posted by: Chicubs14 | December 23, 2008 at 03:18 PM
mikelovesbaseball do you have a link or just guessing?
Posted by: money941 | December 23, 2008 at 03:18 PM
When someone tells me they are a yankee fan I have a hard time believing they are fans of the game that we all love. You are just a fan of big business.
Posted by: The_Bunk | December 23, 2008 at 03:18 PM
My friend told me that this deal has happened. Take it with a grain of salt but it does make sense...
Posted by: mikelovesbaseball94 | December 23, 2008 at 03:19 PM
As a Yankee Fan for a long-time, I am not impressed by this move. I think Swisher would have been just fine at 1st. Now, we have a logjam at 1st and in the outfield. Matsui isn't well enough to be traded for anything worthwhile. I also feel Nady should be allowed to play one full season before being shipped out(that guy gets canned more than tuna). Swisher could be traded but he was so happy to be a Yankee (and an affordable one at that)!
To all those people saying the Yanks bought themselves a championship: A lot can happen in 162 (+11) games. Players get hurt. Teams get hot / cold. Let the season play out.
And ... the Yankees haven't broken any rules. In fact, they are showing a lot of faith by giving long-term contracts to players when other teams only want to go year to year. The unfair advantage is that our fans are loyal. I live in AZ now but subscribe to YES. When I lived on Long Island, I can remember it taking almost two hours to get to the stadium for a regular season game. Do that many people drive from Madison to go see the Brewers or Canton, OH to Cleveland or from Sacramento to watch the A's? The Yankee Brass must satisfy a rabid fan-base. So, don't blame the Yankees ... as if your team would do anything different, given the chance.
Posted by: rossdfarian | December 23, 2008 at 03:19 PM
"Indeed he is. If he wasn't overrated, he wouldn't have made so much money. I know for a fact this deal will suck for the Yankees by the time all is said and done, so I am quite ready to take any heat anybody wants to give. Doesn't matter. 8/180 for a good first baseman? Gross. "
I'm not going to give you heat, I just think you're wrong. Basing "bad deals" on Helton and Giambi is like saying you should never sign a starter long-term because of Hampton and Kevin Brown, etc. etc. I'm sure we can come up with a ton of examples of bad signings, not only at 1B.
His skill set is one that translates well as he ages. For the money, this is a great signing by New York if they can spend it.
Posted by: CubbyFan23 | December 23, 2008 at 03:19 PM
question our loyalty to the yankees???
i remember listening to the yankees on the radio as i layed in bed as a child...
as far as i can remember the yankees were it for me.. it was a long 80's let us have fun with this now!!!
Posted by: EastCoastie | December 23, 2008 at 03:19 PM
nrmax88,
totally agreed, the Yankees outspending their competition has not worked this decade..
They outspent the marlins by 3 to 1 and got blown away..
Are players not coming out of their prime by 33?
CubbyFan23,
LOL.. that was funny
Posted by: 661dodgerblue | December 23, 2008 at 03:20 PM
Love you red sox fan that go wah wah wah when you dont even need a first baseman not our fault manny dont like j00
Posted by: YankPhan420 | December 23, 2008 at 03:21 PM
"How can you compare signing Manny ( a hitter in a different universe then Tex) to a deal for 3 years, when Tex is getting 8? "
Manny is on the downside of his career. He's what, 36? Teix is 28. I don't understand how you can't see this. He plays outstanding defense. Teix has a very close OPS+ to Manny the last two years.
Posted by: CubbyFan23 | December 23, 2008 at 03:21 PM
how long until teixera, CC, and burnett get tired of smelling urine, trash, smog, and yankee fans?....2 weeks.
CC is gunna tell everyone hes opting out in 3 years by may.
and just when we thought we had the best playoffs in 14 years...the yankmees try to buy their way back...but it aint gunna work.
cubs win a world series before the yankmees
Posted by: kevinhendrix9 | December 23, 2008 at 03:21 PM
All that money spent by the Yankees and yet, if the Cubs land Peavy, they might actually be the team to beat.
Posted by: midtown | December 23, 2008 at 03:21 PM
Manny would have been our DH. Damon, Cabrera/Gardner, and Nady would be our outfield with or without Manny.
Posted by: EmpireStrkesBack | December 23, 2008 at 03:22 PM
2009 Payroll Estimates:
C Posada $13.1
1B Teixeira ?? (avg $/yr = $22.5)
2B Cano $6
SS Jeter $20
3B Rodriguez $32
OF Damon $13
OF Matsui $13
OF Nady ?? (Likely $4+)
OF Cabrera ?? (Likely ~$1)
SP Sabathia $14
SP Wang $5
SP Burnett ??
SP Chamberlain ??
SP Hughes ??
RHP Rivera $15
LHP Marte $6
RHP Bruney ?? (Likely ~$1)
Bench
C Molina $1
Roughly $165 mil for less than half of the 40-man.
If anyone else has some figures please plug them in :)
Posted by: valis2374 | December 23, 2008 at 03:22 PM
WASN'T ONE OF YOUR OWN REQUIREMENTS TO BE UNBIASED DIERKES?
EDIT THIS
2:55pm: Olney now agrees it's an eight-year, $180MM deal ($22.5MM per year). Bill Madden says Teixeira told the Yankees he preferred them all along, after the Angels and Red Sox backed off. Ha.
HA? REAL NICE
Posted by: Dominatio | December 23, 2008 at 03:22 PM
The Cubs will never be the team to beat. The are more inept than the Red SOx ever were.
Posted by: EmpireStrkesBack | December 23, 2008 at 03:23 PM
180 for Tex is crazy..
I said this weeks ago, Why not trade Hughes and kennedy for a First baseman..Fielder, Agon, I am sure the Astros would listen on Berkman..
Posted by: 661dodgerblue | December 23, 2008 at 03:23 PM
"If it's the Yankees, it's horrible, but if it's the Nats, O's, or Red Sox, it's not? lol
BTW, enjoy the Manny signing of the Mets, what will you think of that then?"
Actually it would have been horrible no matter what. No matter who signed him. I would love if Manny signed with the Mets, and I think if the Yankees signed Manny for a 2 or 3 year deal it would have been the best move of the offseason. The only defense Yankee fans have is just assuming we all hate this deal because it was the Yankees. I have no problem with the Yankees. Still a horrible deal. How can you compare signing Manny ( a hitter in a different universe then Tex) to a deal for 3 years, when Tex is getting 8?
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Well I feel Manny would've been a better deal for the Yankees too actually...His amazing bat makes up for his poor defense....However Tex is great on and off the field, of course overalll Manny is a better player than Tex, no question about it.
Getting Texiera was a good move, but not for the amount of money and years
The Yankees now have the 4 highest paid contracts in baseball
A-Rod (Future Hall of Famer)
Jeter (Future Hall of Famer0
CC (One of the best lefties in all of baseball)
Tex (Probably the best 1B in the AL)
All overpaid? Indeed....However none of them in my mind are overrated (Jeter defensivly but that is it)
Posted by: mike923 | December 23, 2008 at 03:24 PM
WASN'T ONE OF YOUR OWN REQUIREMENTS TO BE UNBIASED DIERKES?
EDIT THIS
2:55pm: Olney now agrees it's an eight-year, $180MM deal ($22.5MM per year). Bill Madden says Teixeira told the Yankees he preferred them all along, after the Angels and Red Sox backed off. Ha.
HA? REAL NICE
Posted by: Dominatio | December 23, 2008 at 03:22 PM
It is real nice. Leave it there.
Posted by: Cinco Ocho | December 23, 2008 at 03:24 PM
As an angel fan with an angel tattoo im extremely happy we get a draft pick, frees up space for our up and coming prospects. Ohh yeah angels will still beat the yanks and the hated red sox will get owned for years to come. Congrats Yankee fans. Nothing is worse then a red sox fan (fake and smug)
Posted by: Jordan | December 23, 2008 at 03:16 PM
Out of all the generalities and ignorant posts; this might be my favorite.
With regards to this deal, I live in Yankee land and the reaction has been mixed among people I consider true Yankee Fans.
Obviously there is the joy that they landed the best bat but there is some disgust that New York Taxpayers (and yes, non Yankee fan taxpayers) are being asked to foot a portion of the bill for their new stadium, yet the team is able to come up with this type of money for multiple players.
I really don't care about any team spending any money when its their own, but this is a little too close to broke corporations who took bailout money only so they could pay their CEO's billions in bonus checks.
Posted by: KangarooBoxer26 | December 23, 2008 at 03:24 PM
"I'm not going to give you heat, I just think you're wrong. Basing "bad deals" on Helton and Giambi is like saying you should never sign a starter long-term because of Hampton and Kevin Brown, etc. etc. I'm sure we can come up with a ton of examples of bad signings, not only at 1B.
"
You would be right. You should never, under any circumstance, give a pitcher an 8 year deal. No matter what. I do think CC is an exception. People call him overweight and fat, I see him as incredibly durable and big and strong enough to withstand a long season. But under ordinary circumstances, I would never go above 5 years on a pitcher no matter what.
Posted by: nrmax88 | December 23, 2008 at 03:24 PM
now that we got him can we go after Manny already!!!!!!!!!!!!! he's the icing on the cake. with what we got so far we're in the playoffs by far but with Manny with us Its guarrenty world series champions!! People act like he's getting a 10yr contract or something it's only 3 yrs, are you guys tellin me that we can't win with him in the squad! we're going on a decade with out winning one. when he leaves we'll still have tex, jeter, a-rod, plus our pitchers. c'mon yankee fans and staff lets stop thinking with our hearts lets start thinking with our mind. it's common sence for sake. let's do it!!!!!!
Posted by: pedro | December 23, 2008 at 03:24 PM
EVERY team has obnoxious fans, especially teams that win.
I hate the bandwagon fans as much as anyone. But the "real" fans are there thru the good and the bad.
I sat at the stadium in the 80's when there were 500 people there. I sat there thru the rough times and I am enjoying the good ones.
Anyone can question my loyalty and Ill respond by inviting them to watch ALL 162 games with me (cause I do watch them all), Ill invite them to see my collection of memorabilia, my Yankee gear and the NY tattoo I have.
I know for a fact there are a lot of "real" Yankee fans becuase I am one of them.
Posted by: yankeegirl49 | December 23, 2008 at 03:25 PM
I just wonder what those 3 contracts are going to look like in 5-7 years. If it gets them a couple rings, I'm sure every Yankee fan would agree it's worth it, but what if they didn't? This could be great for the Yanks, but like EmpireStrikesBack says, they haven't won anything yet. As a Sox fan, I'm dissapointed, but I'm ok with him not signing with the Sox. It's December 23rd last time I checked, there's plenty of time to improve the team that actually went to the playoffs last year.
Posted by: Papelboner | December 23, 2008 at 03:26 PM
"""who says the yankees don't buy championships? lmao, ya, whatever. exhbit a: 400+m committed in one offseason. 1 no trade clause, 1 opt-out clause. ya, this is pretty pathetic. congrats on buying your next 6 championships to go along with your tainted 26 already. it's official, tex, cc, and burnett are nothing but mercenaries. i'm gonna laugh so hard when these deals eventually castrate the yankees 6 years down the line and their bull**** franchise finally becomes crippled beyond repair. here's to wishing for 80's yankees all over again.""""
ANSWER ME THIS: HOW IS MARK A MERCENARY WHEN HE TOOK LESS THAN BOSTON TO BE A YANKEE???????? OH DAYUMMM
Posted by: ArodMVP217 | December 23, 2008 at 03:26 PM
"I am so glad they signed these players so now they can get even more crap when they dont make the playoffs!!!! The Yanks have to many individuals on the team... its a team effort.... YANKEES WILL NOT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS IN 2009!!!"
This is funny. I like this post.
Posted by: B3NG4L | December 23, 2008 at 03:26 PM
I am hearing its official the Yankees have traded Nick Swisher to the Atlanta Braves for JoJo Reyes, Brandon Jones, cash condieration, and a fill in prospect...
Posted by: mikelovesbaseball94 | December 23, 2008 at 03:26 PM
sign manny.. help that spanish guy be right ha
Posted by: YankPhan420 | December 23, 2008 at 03:26 PM
"You would be right. You should never, under any circumstance, give a pitcher an 8 year deal. No matter what. I do think CC is an exception. People call him overweight and fat, I see him as incredibly durable and big and strong enough to withstand a long season. But under ordinary circumstances, I would never go above 5 years on a pitcher no matter what."
Then I can understand your point in that long term deals are very risky. However, if you want to land this type of talent, someone's going to give a contract this long. To land these players, you have to go that far.
It's great to say you should never sign a long term deal, and I think it has merit, but I just don't think it's based in reality of the current baseball landscape.
Posted by: CubbyFan23 | December 23, 2008 at 03:26 PM
how can Yankee fans actually celebrate a world series win now?? seriously you can go on and on about the revenue they make, new stadium blah blah blah.. they single handedly are ruining baseball.. 420 million on 3 guys in the same off season??? nobody can compete with that,., its ridiculous
Posted by: Adam | December 23, 2008 at 03:26 PM
Eff him.
signed,
Baltimore.
Posted by: The Globalizer | December 23, 2008 at 03:27 PM
"Manny is on the downside of his career. He's what, 36? Teix is 28. I don't understand how you can't see this. He plays outstanding defense. Teix has a very close OPS+ to Manny the last two years."
Oh, okay, so now we are paying 1B 180 million to play defense? I don't care how old Manny is, he hasn't shown any signs of slowing down. It a short commitment. I don't care how old Tex is, the chances of something going wrong before 8 years are up is quite large, and besides, Tex was always overrated. Once again, Dunn for 2/30, or Tex for 8/180. Is this honestly a decision? Dunn will make 2/30 because he is good for a 900 OPS every year, and Tex will make 6 times that because his defense is better? Seriously?
Posted by: nrmax88 | December 23, 2008 at 03:27 PM
Jones gives the Yankees flexibility if they trade Melky for Cameron and Gardner has trouble hitting. Reyes is a minor league arm/fill in at best with this team but he adds depth and i hear the other prospect is a crappy hitting shortstop...
Posted by: mikelovesbaseball94 | December 23, 2008 at 03:28 PM
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"How can you compare signing Manny ( a hitter in a different universe then Tex) to a deal for 3 years, when Tex is getting 8? "
Manny is on the downside of his career. He's what, 36? Teix is 28. I don't understand how you can't see this. He plays outstanding defense. Teix has a very close OPS+ to Manny the last two years.
Posted by: CubbyFan23 | December 23, 2008 at 03:21 PM
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So Manny on the decline at 36 puts up the Best stat line of 2008? Hell yeah!
Posted by: 661dodgerblue | December 23, 2008 at 03:28 PM
Well... good signing by the Yanks, they are going to be scary next year.
I wonder if they're done or they still go after Manny...
Posted by: Peagle8 | December 23, 2008 at 03:28 PM
YEAH GIRL!!! I GOT A NYY TAT TO SHOW OFF ALSO!!
Posted by: Champs26Times | December 23, 2008 at 03:27 PM
Ya and you have an empty head also. F*ck the Yankees to hell.
Posted by: ballerwhiteboy | December 23, 2008 at 03:28 PM
I'm kind of disappointed, I thought the Yankees would sign every single player in major league baseball so that way they can ensure a penant:
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/27656
Posted by: slug214 | December 23, 2008 at 03:30 PM
Ugh. It only gets worse. Next year, Damon and Matsui (combined $26 million) come off the books. Matt Holiday is probably already shopping for real estate in Manhattan.
Posted by: midtown | December 23, 2008 at 03:31 PM
Relax with all the Yankee hate guys. Sure, it's pretty ridiculous they have spend over $400M on 3 players, but lets see them win it first. They've had the highest payroll for how long now? Tex is a great signing, so is CC. I'm interested to see AJ pitching till he's 37 though...
Posted by: Papelboner | December 23, 2008 at 03:31 PM
Bring ManRam to NYY new stadium will be packed every game its gonna be glorious
Posted by: YankPhan420 | December 23, 2008 at 03:31 PM
Dominatio - I kind of agree with you on that. Not too classy for that to be thrown in there.
Posted by: CMM | December 23, 2008 at 03:31 PM
Bad for baseball.
Posted by: AtlantaBred | December 23, 2008 at 03:33 PM
Of course, Teixeira says he preferred the Yanks all along. Does any free agent ever sign with a team and announce that he preferred a different team all along??? NO. It's a bunch of BS. He preferred their money and all of the recognition that it will give him to play for the Yankees. But if they don't win, they'll hate him there.
Also, in about 6 years, the yanks are gonna have a bunch of broken players with $20M contracts. Of course, they'll have won 5 WS in a row, so...
Posted by: nostocksjustbonds | December 23, 2008 at 03:33 PM
sign Man-NY and complete MURDER'S ROW 2.0
Posted by: C.K. | December 23, 2008 at 03:34 PM
Ugh. It only gets worse. Next year, Damon and Matsui (combined $26 million) come off the books. Matt Holiday is probably already shopping for real estate in Manhattan.
Posted by: midtown | December 23, 2008 at 03:31 PM
I'd rather have Austin Jackson
Posted by: mike923 | December 23, 2008 at 03:34 PM
Sorry, Yanksfan. Tax-exempt bonds are still FREE $ from taxpayers. Nice financial theory, though. Here is a link to Fortune Magazine explaining.
http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/10/news/newsmakers/yankees_stadium.fortune/index.htm
All of the infrastructure costs and things you say "cities are supposed to do" would never have to be paid for were it not for the construction of this stadium. In other words, the Yankees should pay for it themselves as a private business making significantly more than any other business of its kind.
Posted by: reo223 | December 23, 2008 at 03:35 PM
"So Manny on the decline at 36 puts up the Best stat line of 2008? Hell yeah!"
Am I saying Manny isn't a good hitter? I love the guy, I'd just rather have a guy long term who's younger and in his peak years than a guy who's due to decline and plays horrible defense. Would love either guy on my team.
"Oh, okay, so now we are paying 1B 180 million to play defense? I don't care how old Manny is, he hasn't shown any signs of slowing down. It a short commitment. I don't care how old Tex is, the chances of something going wrong before 8 years are up is quite large, and besides, Tex was always overrated. Once again, Dunn for 2/30, or Tex for 8/180. Is this honestly a decision? Dunn will make 2/30 because he is good for a 900 OPS every year, and Tex will make 6 times that because his defense is better? Seriously?"
If you're arguing Dunn vs. Teix I'll take Dunn on that deal as well. However, that doesn't mean the Teix deal is bad, just that Dunn is very undervalued.
Posted by: CubbyFan23 | December 23, 2008 at 03:35 PM
The evil empire continues to grow and soaks even more hope for competitive balance out of the fans. Well done Yankees.
Posted by: Otis26 | December 23, 2008 at 03:35 PM