Andy Pettitte Open To Astros?

lader dude, don't let the door hit you in the ass you selfish prick.

Grow the hell up Andy, this "hurt feelings" stuff is getting very old.

I would be really surprised by him signing with the Astros. He kinda burned his bridge there. But I guess it really comes down to how much he would sign for.

I really hope this doesn't happen. I just couldn't stand the Justice and JJO love-fest that would surely take place at the Chronicle.

On the other hand, watching him get boo'd at MMP would be classic....

Im sick of Pettite . .Lets get Perez or Sheets . .call it an off-season

Yankees don't owe Pettitte anything. They stood by him last year with that silly Clemens roids scandal. They paid him $16MM last year..Enough's enough Andy. I would prefer that they save the cash and go with Hughes...

I agree triplle H .. Yanks need another starter

Pettitte is overvaluing his market if he thinks he's going to do much better on the market. Maybe he could get more than one year but he's going to be hard pressed to get more per year than what the Yankees are offering. He should have swallowed hard and said "Thank You" when Cashman mad the offer.

the stros won't/can't offer him more than the yankees 1 yr 10 mil offer. either he swallows a lot of pride and goes back to the stros with his tail b/w his legs on a smaller salary or this will never happen

although it isn't clear in the article i think Davidoff was saying that they were just trying to keep payroll under last years amount which in turn meant not getting Pettite after singing Tex. The yanks are never trimming payroll. Don't come to Houston Andy, you're a whiner and a clemens coat tail rider (wanted to keep it clean so i didnt say what i wanted to about him riding something) and you will never ever make Yankee money again.....go get some HGH and relax go pitch for Galena Park softball team

bye Andy, how does it feel you walked on Yankees before so get to stepping again.

"This. I don't get it at all. If the Yankees trade Nady, their outfield for next season is...well, pretty questionable. Are they really planning to field a starting outfield of, what, Matsui, Damon and Swisher?"

Nady is only under control through 2009 anyways, and he's going to hit the free agent market because Boras is his agent. So really, Nady was never in New York's long term plans anyways.

Right now, only Austin Jackson is projected for the 2010 outfield, and maybe Nick Swisher.

I would expect the Yankees to go very hard after one of Matt Holliday, Jason Bay, Vladimir Guerrero and Carl Crawford when/if they hit the free agent market next winter.

Trading Nady would be a perfectly acceptable move.

Filling out the outfield won't be even remotely an issue, they have so much flexibility thanks to their young guys and the fact that all of their older guys are only under contract through 2009.

I say trade Nady for prospects put Swish in right, and call it a day for now.

Who's blaming Andy, let Houston have him again, he went to Houston with Clemens now let him go again, Bye.

"I love how all of the pathetic Yankee fans will now blame Pettitte for the Yankees misfortune the last ten years."

"None of them is a reliable option. Crawford's not a free agent necessarily, he's under option which is widely considered likely to be exercised and Guerrero's knees are getting worse every year and he's probably not going to be a capable fielder by then. Holliday likely won't hit free agency, if he proves a capable hitter for the A's, bet on them trading him for a large package mid-season"

What are you talking about?

Carl Crawford option is for 2009, after next season he WILL be a free agent, unless Tampa resigns him. He'll be very much available.

Holliday will definitely, 100% hit free agency, as a Boras client. He's going to get his money, and it's not coming from Oakland.

If Holliday and Bay both hit FA, expect both New York and Boston to bid on these guys, with one ending up in each place.

And honestly, I'm so damn confused as to why you think Nady would affect any of this.

NADY IS A FREE AGENT AFTER 2009. His agent is Boras. He will hit the market, and the Yankees won't persue him, instead going after superior options. Moving Nady this offseason would have no bearing on the Yankees' outfield in 2010 and beyond.

As for young guys, at least they have Cabrera and Gardner, who may not be even solid players, but they are adequate. They both play good defense in center, and they both have the ability to get on base a little bit. I've been one of the biggest anti-Melky/Gardner commenters on this site, but even I think they'll be fine with those two.

And Jackson will very likely be ready for 2010. If he managed to improve on his 2008 AA numbers, then he'll likely go into spring training 2010 as the favorite to start in CF on opening day. He's not quite as far away as your making it out to be.

My mistake, I mixed up Crawford with Upton. Crawford, I'm not intimated by like I am Upton. He's a great hitter for average, but his overall on base ability is garbage and he strikes out a ton. The Yanks can have him if they want him.

As for Holliday, his free agency is more 50% than you seem to want to admit. The A's are notorious for their trading philosophy and you know he's going to get traded mid-season unless the A's are in first come July. No one's going to give up the parts he'll command if he's just a rental. Having Boras as your agent doesn't guarantee you free agency (Let's not forget that Boras' chief goal in Matsuzaka was to see him hit free agency at 29, something he didn't get). He prefers it, but don't assume just because the Yankees are in it that they'll nab him. My guess is that Holliday lands back in the NL next year.

You simply can't rely on any of those guys being the solution. The fact is, the Yankees' outfield is in dire straits for the coming years and the "Yankee philosophy" isn't yielding any high likelihood solutions to that.

Nady may be hitting free agency after this season, but that doesn't account for what they'd do this season. For all the parts they've added this season, their outfield is already a big question mark. Subtracting the one reliable piece of that outfield is a major step back and they simply don't have someone to step in now and do the job. Teixeira replaces Abreu and Giambi's production and makes for an automatic improvement to their defense, but subtracting Nady hurts their outfield defense by forcing them to field two backup outfielders and an aging Damon who only hit the field for 2/3 of the season as their starting outfield and no backup.

Jackson may only be 22 next season, but if he proves he's ready, then he's ready. Obviously his performance will determine whether he gets the CF job, and if he excels in AA, he'll probably get a shot in New York.

As for the rest of the outfield, I think you're really exaggerating the issue. Corner outfielders are probably the easiest commodity to find, and there should always be options when you have the resources that the Yankees have.

If Oakland is contending in July, which they very well could, then Holliday won't get traded. This team is already built for tomorrow, but if they can win today with Holliday, then they will. Obviously if they get too far behind, he's gone though.

What you seem to forget though is that Boras is Holliday's agent, and very, very rarely does Boras sign his clients to long term extensions when they're this close to free agency. It's going to be like Tex all over again.

I'm sure the Yankees aren't too concerned.

Outbid doesn't equal nab. They can outbid anyone, but there's a lot of factors beyond just the money. It's been reported that, incentives and vesting options included, the Sox might actually have had a higher offer on the table for Teixeira than the Yankees.