Braves Interested In Nady, Swisher

I vote for Nady. We'll get some draft picks out of him since we'll not pick up his Boras contract.

Depends on who we have to trade. A group of guys along the lines of Brandon Jones and other would be fine but I want to keep the guys we've been harboring all along.

Swisher is owed 5.3 m in 09, 6.45 m in 2010, and 9 million in 2011 with a 1m buyout and 12 million dollar option for 2012.

Nady is a free agent after next season.

I think the Braves probably want Swisher, but the Yanks probably want to trade Nady. Braves tried to get Swisher before the Yanks did. I'd offer Martin Prado, Gregor Blanco(competes with Melky and Gardner) and a pitching prospect like Medlen.

I vote Neither. Swishers strikes out too much and Nady is a free-agent next year. Unless the Braves are looking to acquire a OF who is only a short-term guy then they should look elsewhere.

I like both of these guys. Either one would be a nice fit. Both have some pop which is better than none and their defence aint bad. Swisher's under contract and Nady's in his walk year. The Braves have plenty of guys to use in a trade for either of these guys...Morton, Reyes, Blanco, Gorkeys, Prado. I don't know which one I want more tho Nady or Swisher...There's pros and cons to both of them.

I meant robbed*

It's awesome how at the start of the new year I was discussing witha few Braves fans on here and we suggested the Braves go for a frontline starter like Lowe and keep their eye on Kawakami. Then we suggested acquiring Swisher or Nady from the Yanks to play LF...Hmmmm. Maybe we should ask the Braves for a job lol. I may have to finish school first...yea

I'm not asking for a trade of swisher or nady for this guy...But what do you braves fans think of josh anderson?

I perfer Anderson over Blanco. They've both got great speed, but Blanco Ks a lot. I'd keep Anderson and put him on a platoon with Andruw if the Braves think about signing him.

"I'm not asking for a trade of swisher or nady for this guy...But what do you braves fans think of josh anderson?"

Anderson has really great speed and is a good base-stealer. Plays a nice CF.

But, he doesn't have the bat to be an everyday player. (he somehow hit 2 HR in a game late in the season to really boost his SLG%).

A nice 4th or 5th OF, if you're not looking for power.

The Braves really shouldn't give up anything too valuable for Nady though.

He's a good player, but he won't put them over the edge, and he'll be gone in a year.

If they can get him for say, one of Reyes/Morton/Locke, as well as a low level prospect, I'd be down for it.

"As a Yankee fan I would love to see the Yanks keep Nady."

You like strike outs, no walks, poor baserunning, and defense. There is no doubt the better player is Nick Swisher and he is controlled at a good price for a few yrs. Swisher could be the american version of Bobby Abreu and he's not afraid of walls. Nady is a Boras client he more than likely is gone.

The Braves are not trading Gorkys for either of these guys. Thats rediculous.

Just b/c you got a guy cheap doesn't mean you should trade cheap as well. Swicher is a guy that could easily hit 25-30 HR and drive in 90-100 runs.

Nady could be a Type A FA next year, that mean a 1st round pick.

So why should the Yanks give them cheap when the Braves are the team in need?

"The Yanks traded nothing to get Swisher, so they shouldn't expect too much in return. Nady is a free agent after next year, so again, they shouldn't expect too much in return."

Not necessarily. The Yankees can expect whatever Swisher's TRUE value is in a trade, and shouldn't trade him unless they're getting back his true value in return. And that true value is MUCH greater than what they gave up for Swish (plus a C+ prospect).

You're right about Nady though. HUGE fluke/regression risk + bad defense + FA after '09 season.

I'm not really thrilled about either guy. Swisher seems to have had a couple of good years... a couple of years ago. Nady's great half season with the Pirates last year looks like a fluke.

If I had to pick, I'd say Nady since he'd require less in a trade both because he's not as good as Swisher, and because he's gone in a year (and is a Boras client).

AtlantMike, Yes you may call me BM lol. I agree with you 100%. Lowe and Vazquez are serious inning eaters. That should help perserve the bullpen a great deal as well. Lowe hasn't shown any signs of slowing down so you gotta love this deal. And taken Lowe from the Mets was a nice bonus.

Put Anderson's and Blanco's talent together and you have a nice OF. Each has weaknesses. Anderson is fast and can play all three positions but doesn't get on base enough to be an everyday player, unless you hit him 8th or 9th (in the AL).

Blanco gets on base a lot and drew raves because he always makes pitchers work. But he has shown no power at the ML level. He's reportedly raking in winter ball, so maybe he just needed to mature physically.

"The Yanks traded nothing to get Swisher, so they shouldn't expect too much in return. Nady is a free agent after next year, so again, they shouldn't expect too much in return."

Wrong. The Yankees obviously valued Swisher at greater than what they gave up. The White Sox valued him less than what the Yankees gave up.

If you want to trade for him, you have to give up more than the Yankees value him for. If multiple teams value him greater than the Yankees, you have to have the best bid of those teams.

Quick question for Braves fans:

I look at the Braves bullpen, and I see a lot of question marks. I do see guys like Kimbrell, Marek, Parr, etc. who look ready to contribute in the pen, but with Bobby Cox's recent track record with young relievers (Joey Devine, Phil Stockman, etc.), do you think adding a veteran pen arm would be a good idea?

melonis,

Probably not, or it's probably not a priority, especially if they can re-sign Ohman. By all reports, Soriano's elbow problem was fixed (a tendon was rubbing against bone and needed to be surgically repositioned; now throwing without pain).

With Gonzalez, Soriano, Acosta, Boyer, Bennett, Carlyle, Logan and Moylan (back in May?), the pen should be OK and the kids may be able to spend more time on the farm.

Atlanta Mike,

I think that all depends on how much the Braves are gonna spend and Hudsons price.

Melonis Rex,

I think the Braves will be fine as long as they get Ohman back.

Soriano had surgery that removed a bone spur that was the cause of his pain at the end of the season so he should be good to go. Gonzalez will be 100% recovered and Moylan will be comming of TJ surgery in April so if we get Ohman our bullpen looks like

Soriano CL - IMO i think he should be for all the money he will be making

Gonzalez SU
Moylan SU
Ohman LHP
Acosta RHP
then fill it out after that with other guys. im not to worried about the bullpen though because alot of the guys we have in our rotation go at least to the 6th inning in most of their starts which just means we need someone for 7,8, and 9 and out of those 5 we would be solid IMO

KJ for Ludwick straight up is a good deal. Braves shouldn't include anything else in such deal.

End of story.

melonis,

Nady's defense isn't terrible according to fangraphs. Appears to be right in line with Swisher's defense.

Nady and Swisher both are way better than Dunn, Abreu, or Burrell (unavailable, I realize, but a similar type guy).

I think people are looking at Nady in the wrong light. Was the .330 he hit w/ Pittsburgh a fluke? Probably. However, the guys pedigree (2nd draft pick, 49th overall, Baseball America #1 rating w/ Padres) suggests that he's a late bloomer who, at age 30 finally came into his own. I see him as a solid .285/.330 25 hr and 80-90 rbi guy. People make much about his slip in bat avg when he came to the Yanks but his hr per at bats improved dramaticaly with the Yanks. I think he would be a solid bat for any team. COmbine that with the fact that his salry is reasonable (arb will probably net him 7-8 mil) and will probably be a Typa A destined to decline arbitration, I think several teams might find him attractive. The trick is finding a team with depth in the minor league system or one with a mlb player blocking their minor league players from being called up.

I wouldn't go as far to say that an 09 Nady or Swisher is better than an 09 Abreu. He's a hell of a all around "hitter".

"Damn punk Braves fans. The worst of the worst."

Give it a rest, man.

Theres nothing like Yankee fans calling other fans, "the worst of the worst."

HA..

Wow Recon some fans are idiots but that is sterotyping. Besides you're the one who was supporting an Ian Kenndy, Brackman, and Swisher for Heyward trade just the other day, Id say thats fairly idiotic on your part

I dont think Nady or Swisher will be traded until at least the season starts, and i see Nady more likely to get traded because we(Yankees) need corner outfielders after next year. I wouldnt traded either players unless we get something that blows us away.

In Nady you are getting an average fielder who hits 280 25hr 80-90 rbi at 7 million. PLus he will most likely be a Type-A and the team will also get a 1st round pick.

The Yanks do not need to trade either, I like having the depth anyway.

Not to sure about Braves Prospects but do you guys have any premium position prospects available?

I understand that every fan seems to overvalue their teams prospects....but I haven't seen one player being mentioned from Braves fans that is remotely a big deal. Blanco?? He's Melky Cabrera lite! Gorkeys Hernandez?? Why the hell do we need an A ball CF with no pop. Austin Jackson is better and further along.

C'mon people...look at what the Yankees need before putting these hypothetical deals together. Nady and Swisher are both affordable and will get you .270-.280 25 90 next year. Whether we stole Swish is irrelevant. If Nady leaves next year you get the picks. Plus, YOU came to us.

ATL Mike - I've never seen Gorkeys play...and you're very right, he may be a very good prospect. I guess my point on that is that the Yankees love Austin Jackson (CF) who is one of their best position prospects and spoken of as their CF of the future. He'll most likely start the year in AAA. So they don't really need to swap a guy in Nady who will hit .280 25 90 next year for an A ball CF.

The Yankees have three possible needs right now: a stop gap CF if they feel that Gardner or Melky can't do it next year till A Jax is ready....a #4 innings eater type starter so Joba can take the #5 role and save his innings....and a super-utility guy with some pop. They may already have that with Cody Ransom, but he's only had limited AB's so who knows.

That being said Braves fans...whom do you propose now?

PS - Mike, I lived in Dunwoody for 2 years...loved the area! :)

Acosta, in 67 MLB IP, has a 3.17 ERA. He had a bad spell last year, I think when he was put in as closer, but he's been really, really good otherwise. Will likely be the 7th-inning guy.

Brandon Jones has yet to reach his potential. I'd like to say that he will, but I don't know.

Nady might have a good year, but multiple cheap years of Gorkys could be way better, if he hits his ceiling, no? I'd still rather keep him. :)

Acosta's numbers aren't bad...it's just that the Yankees have a butt-load of pen arms! After Mo, Veras, Ramirez, Melancon, H Sanchez, Marte, Coke, Aceves, Geise, Robertson, Bruney and Albaladejo are all fighting for pen jobs this year...and there is another flock of arms waiting in the minors after that. Arms the Yanks are good on...position players in the minors (aside from catcher) is an issue.

With Nady, Damon and Matsui all free-agents next year...a 2010 MLB ready corner outfielder would be a good catch.

RollingNightHawk -

Acosta will be 28 this season and has thrown a grand total of 76 innings in the majors...56 this past year. If that isn't a career minor league pitcher, WTF is? So no, my statement is far from "ludicrous" and I made it for a reason.

Gamecock - Did I mention those guys?? Ahhh....NO. My point is that the Yankees don't NEED to trade Nady or Swisher....and the Braves contacted THEM. So they will either be getting something back that makes sense for their roster...keeping those players...or sending them to another team that matches up better. It's common sense.

jjyankeesfan2- Who says that the Braves contacted the Yankees? It's a possibility that the Yankees heard of the Braves need at an OF spot, looked at their roster and their depth at OF, then looked at the Braves farm system and bullpen and said, "Hey, we have a shot to raid the Braves' bullpen and farm system before anyone else, while getting rid of either an expensive rental or someone we got for very little."

Game - According to our papers, the Yankees are "fielding offers"...and "taking calls"...not actively trying to ship out two relatively inexpensive but productive players capable of .280 25 90!

Also, Rosenthal wrote: "The team's (ATL) next step will be to add a bat, and the club has spoken with the Yankees about their available hitters, Xavier Nady and Nick Swisher, sources said".

Put the two together and you have your answer.

Luckly the Braves have what it would take to get this done. Campilo, Blanco, Jones are all expendable. Not to mention the a few bullpen guys and a lot of prospects. I just hope they hold on to Prado, Infante, and Diaz. They need these guys on the bench.

Snoot - They players you mentioned aren't getting ME done let alone Nady or Swisher.

"Matt Diaz will probably fill in off the bench as a 4th outfielder, maybe he will compete for CF this spring training."

Nice try, but anyone who would suggest Matt Diaz could compete for the CF job for the NY Yankees is obviously not legit. He's barely passable as a LF.

its not real i was just saying what i think it should be

lol good one atlantamike. anyway srry if i got anyone offended by stating my opinion

Ha! nixa37, I really don't believe UZR (whatever that is) if it says Diaz is a good fielder. I do know that some of the defensive stats that I do understand say he was, but I watched a lot of games... and well, just don't buy it (I think it shows how inadequate defensive statistics are).

However, I didn't mean to trash him... he has made some plays in LF... good enough, if he hits like in '06/'07.

Really just debunking the silly notion that he could play CF.

I think it has much more to do with Diaz looking unathletic than anything else. The guy doesn't look like he should be a very good fielder, but he has amazing speed for his size and seems to get pretty good jumps. The chances of him posting the numbers he did in UZR without being at least average defensively are pretty astronomical. I think its much more likely that simply watching him doesn't do justice to how good he is.

chipperowns10 --

That is just an absolute terrible deal for the Braves.

Trade Francouer after one off year PLUS a decent 5th starter with at least a little upside for a 35 year, average hitter, and below average fielder like Dye?

You can't be serious...

I also dont think jojo is a decent 5th starter. I think hes a decent AAAA player. He doesnt have a spot in this organization and id be glad to get rid of him so bobby would not be tempted to use him as the 5th starter just because he is a lefty. If we traded french the sox would obviously have to eat some of dye's salary as well.

I don't know. I've said this on many of these boards, but I think Frenchy is going to bounce back and be the solid .280/25/100 guy that he was before.

If his defense suffered last year, it was probably due to his hitting slump effecting him mentally.

I don't think Dye is the big OF bat the Braves need. I wouldn't be opposed to trading Gorkys since the Braves have to much depth at his position. Nady would be a good fit, one year and out to make room for the kids.

Plus, I think Dye is a product of his environment. He plays in the AL Central, which has some of the weakest pitching in either league.

Do you think he'd put up 35/40 homers and 100 rbi against Santana and Hamels and the like? I don't.

Fair enough, chipperowns10.

Yesterday, I was arguing for Dunn, but after seeing what he wants in terms of money and years, I think he's out the window.

Now, it appears that trading for Swisher/Nady or signing Abreu (please, no) are the only legitimate options for the Braves.

Maybe just go with the platoon idea of Diaz and Brandon Jones in LF. Or if Andruw is really losing weight and his knee is fine, take a chance on him.

Even without a pickup in LF, I think the Braves have a very solid lineup to go with their POTENTIALLY deep rotation and great bullpen, IF healthy.

There's just a lot of qualifying adjectives that have to pan out for the Braves to compete with the Phillies.

Im not really in favor of getting nady but i think that may be what we do. 25 man Roster prediction in batting and rotation order:

1.Anderson till shafer is ready
2.Yunel
3.Chipper
4.Nady
5.Mac
6.Kelly
7.French
8.Kotchman

9.Lowe
10.Vazquez
11.JJ
12.KK
13.Glavine

14.Ross
15.Infante
16.Prado
17.Norton
18.Diaz

19.Campillo
20.Boyer
21.Acosta
22.Ohman
23.Moylan
24.Soriano
25.Gonzo

This may not be the exact bullpen to start the summer with the question marks around moylan and soriano but theyll be in there within a month or two.