Mets' Pitching Pursuit Will Take Time

Have to agree with Tim, its a nice plan but they are not in control of the starting pitching market like they were of the closing market.

Their offer to Lowe and their rumored ceiling for offers to him is so low (nice pun), that they can't sit back and let him shop it, because alot of teams will match it and beat it.

I have been saying all along that the Detroit Tigers are a wild card team to land Derek Lowe. They have the resources to pony up the cash necessary to land him, while they also have a need in their starting rotation that Derek Lowe would address nicely. Lowe would fit nicely in Detroit and would be strongly backed by their potent offense. The Mets sadly aren't in control of the market here like they were with Francisco Rodriguez...

Pedro Martinez = bargain of the off-season?
I wonder if his value has fallen so far that Oakland has a shot at him?
Any info on whether he likes/dislikes the West Coast Timmy?
I don't mean to sound callous, but I can't imagine Pedro was really focused on baseball in '08 and if I was valuing him I'd give him a mulligan for last season.

Wren is probably going out of his way to keep anything and every thing quite.

Maybe just Maybe the reason why he post alot on the Mets this week is because Derek Lowe is who they are after and just happens to be the best FA starter left..... NAH has nothing to do with it, Its Definatly a New York Conspiracy lol HATERS !!!!!!!!

@wrightreyes1:

As a Phillies fan, I normally never agree with a Mets fab, but I agree 100%. What's the difference betweeen 3 years, $36 million and 3 years, $40 million to the NY Mets?

Good luck explaining it to the fan base if Omar continues to try and lowball Lowe and he signs elsewhere (I don't think the idea of Lowe resigning with the Dodgers is that out of the question). Remember - this is Scott Boras we're talking about. The guy's a freaking magician when it comes to getting teams to pony up money for his guys.

"Remember - this is Scott Boras we're talking about. The guy's a freaking magician when it comes to getting teams to pony up money for his guys."

He is going to have to be better than Harry Houdini ever was to get what he THOUGHT Varitek, Lowe, Perez and Ramirez was worth through his distorted mind.

I am a little surprised that the mets have resisted the temptation to buy more players this offseason.

"But,honestly, 4/60 is very fair for Lowe. Very, very fair."

Maybe before the economy took a hit. Even last year that seems like a lot for a guy like lowe who is turning 36 this year. Its fair price until you get into the third year and especially the 4th year of the deal. Hard to blame teams for realizing that and trying to either minimize years or pay him less money.

Maybe before the economy took a hit. Even last year that seems like a lot for a guy like lowe who is turning 36 this year. Its fair price until you get into the third year and especially the 4th year of the deal. Hard to blame teams for realizing that and trying to either minimize years or pay him less money.

Posted by: walkoffblast | January 01, 2009 at 02:02 PM

The Economy??? Yes, thore POOR, POOR Billionaires!!!!

2008 made history again for attendance in MLB.

Plus the Mets get a new stadium to play in, almost guarenting sell outs night in and out.. until they implode again in September.

I will laugh my PHUCKING arse off if Lowe signs somewhere else because the Mets lowballed him.

"Their offer to Lowe and their rumored ceiling for offers to him is so low (nice pun), that they can't sit back and let him shop it, because alot of teams will match it and beat it."

Yes, but this is what drives me crazy. It makes no difference whether another team decided to better an offer, because the Mets will still have a chance to match it after that. Boras is not going to take Lowe into a room and accept an offer of 3/42 from somebody else without coming back to NY and seeing if they want to match/better that offer. Once again, this is not PS2. You don't lose a guy because you lowball him and then somebody else swoops in with an offer. You will almost always get a chance to match. I get the feeling that people think that because the Mets offered 3/36, that this is somehow their final offer and anything a dollar higher will close the deal immediately for whoever makes the offer. Just wrong.

On a sidenote, does anybody else feel bad for FyreKnight? He must live a brutally horrible life. The guy is just so sad. God bless you my friend.

"This is what i hate about the Mets, they always try to nickel and dime everything!! Just freaking sign Lowe and Wolf and be done with it. This isnt Kansas City or Pittsburgh, they have the money and the fan base. If they keep screwing around, they are gonna lose out on the good pitchers and have to sign Garland or Redding. No wonder they are second fiddle in NY."

Agreed, I mean an identical approach obviously didn't work with Carlos Beltran, or that Johan Santana guy, or this closer they just signed.... BB-Rod? I mean, the exact same approach Omar is taking right now has not worked multiple times in the last couple of seasons alone..... oh wait. We understand you want a deal done. But stop acting like there is some grand reason the Mets should just lock it up now. Just admit it is because you are spoiled, bored, and just want your guy now so you can argue with guys like FyReKnight about who the best team is.

"The Braves have the money to sign Lowe. And he would be precisely the top-of-rotation stabilizer the Braves need until Hudson is back in 2010."

Lowe has never really been a "top of the rotation" guy and if he is forced into that so called "stopper" role, his new team mat be disappointed. He relies almost exclusively on that sinker/slider and can get into serious trouble when it "ain't sinking" unline a guy that can get away throwing harder, it may not be wise to rely on a guy like this as a #1-2 guy, but as your prototype 3-4 guy that he pretty much always has been that is as good as there is and has always been since he stopped being the closer for Boston. He did win 20 games for Boston once granted, he just does not have the potential dominance required to be that stopper IMO, the neither does any other other leftover FA's like Byrd, Wolf, Garland. Perez does, but he is wild 50% of his starts and is best suited for the 3-4 position also.

MelonisRex, when I posted about Lowe and Boras not getting what they wanted it was indeed that outrageous 5/90 that initially came out. The 4/60 can see, but think that is still too much and 3/40 is about it. If Philly could sweep in and get him for that? It would lock up their rotation 1-5 and *maybe* lights out for the NL East.

nrmax88, you sound like the Wilpons' accountant or something. We will never be like the Yankees(26 titles) but the Wilpons could at least pretend that they care about the fanbase. Also, if it was up to Omar, Manny would be a Met and we would have a much more formidable lineup. Delcrapo and the rest of the guys are chokers and Manny would come through when it counts,hitting with RISP!! Lowe,Wolf and Manny will change my tune about the NL East title in '09 but i doubt we even get 2 out of 3.

Its all about good business. I will say that the met fans deserve a sure thing for once. Manny would be an unbelievable addition and certainly put us as the "team to beat".

That being said... the Wilpons did just lose 300+ Million bucks.

anyway, I think that we will certianly sign lowe, and I really like the wish list of Lowe Wolf and Manny while I think that Lowe Wolf and Burrell might be more realistic. Not that I support it.