Perrotto's Latest: Ramirez, Lowe

Oh god.

1. Perez and Motte. Perez and Motte. Perez and Motte. Keep Carp in the rotation and sign another SP.

2. I would love to see the proceedings of a Barry Bonds v. MLB collusion charge.

3. If the Giants offer 3/63 to Manny, he would be smart to take that offer NOW. Although that could get ugly in 2010/2011 with arb cases and other fun.

Barry must've been involved in a hit and run or something...

"Barry must've been involved in a hit and run or something..."

Thus the hip surgery??? ;)

Wow, let's see. Barry hasn't played in more than a year and he's coming off hip surgery and won't be ready for spring training. And he's going to be 45. And he won't be able to "enhance" as easily as he once did, if you catch my drift.

Sounds like a hot commodity to me.

dodgers1994. No, they are not.

Oh yeah, and I forgot another thing about Barry. If no one signs him, he's pursuing collusion charges.

Delusion charges, I can believe. Collusion, not so much.

did they give up on him completly or something they dont want him

Dodgers can't afford Manny

Looks to me like the Giants are going to get their replacement for Barry Bonds in another ball mashing washed up fielder... A guy who will probably put a few over the wall but also drop a few in left field, and bring a ton of attention along with him!

MANNY RAMIREZ!!!

I wonder where these writers outside of the city get their info??

The San Francisco beat writers continue to state NO OFFER HAS BEEN MADE!

Boras must be hard at work dropping little hints to Denver and Perrotto. He certainly isn't doing much to deny them.

The Dodgers a Dunn talking (to Manny). :)

5 yr 80 million, Yeah right.

Which contract if it ever occurred would be the most idiotic? Ramirez @ 4 yrs and 100 million, or Lowe 5 years and 80 million?

OK. Not year 2, but year 3.

We're talking about one franchise that has a 2 year plan to contend and put people in the seats now (short term contracts to Renteria, Johnson, Affeldt) until their kids mature (Posey, Gillespie, Bumgardener,etc.) and another franchise with no plan, that has a history of oversigning players to win now (Dreifort, Kevin Brown, Schmidt, Jones, etc).

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The Dodgers have no plan? Going to the playoffs in 2004, 2006, 2008 while turning over half their starting positions to their farm system is no plan?
The reason the Dodgers "oversign" at least on Schmidt and Jones is because they have kids making league minimum at the other positions. In fact, that seems like a real plan too. Sign a higher value/ less years to fill the open positions the farm system can't provide at minimum cost.
Think before you type Gary D. You're incorrect AND a biased Giant homer.

Oooh! How scary! Chris Carpenter is gonna be a closer!
Cards SUCK.

"Enough already! The Giants are NOT going to offer Ramirez more than 2 years and the Dodgers are freeing up money as we speak to sign him. We're talking about one franchise that has a 2 year plan to contend and put people in the seats now (short term contracts to Renteria, Johnson, Affeldt) until their kids mature (Posey, Gillespie, Bumgardener,etc.) and another franchise with no plan, that has a history of oversigning players to win now (Dreifort, Kevin Brown, Schmidt, Jones, etc). I also point to the fact that the Dodgers have a history of being one of the top 5 in payroll every year with nothing to show for it, unless you want to count last year when they won the worst division in baseball. One year! What about all the other years? Bottom line, L.A. will sign Ramirez and "Mr. Head Case" will quit on them just like he quit on Boston while the Giants drive up the price, bow out, and continue to rebuild and take over the division in 2-3 years with lower payroll while building from within.

Posted by: Gary D | January 04, 2009 at 12:59 PM"

That is classic dude. Especially coming from a San Fran fan. The town with not one championship.. I don't like saying that cause I was young when the Dodgers last did something(1 year old)
But still dude, come on. the Giants should of renamed themselves San Fran Bonds..

I really liked this

"(short term contracts to Renteria, Johnson, Affeldt) until their kids mature (Posey, Gillespie, Bumgardener,etc.)"

Your plan is almost identical to what the Dodgers are doing.. But we are doing it better.

So Rowand and Zito do not play for the Giants? And they aren't going to make almost 200 million between them? Over payed a little? How much did you sign Dave Roberts for?

Kemp, Martin, Loney, Dewitt, Kershaw, Bills, McDonald, Troncoso, Kuo, Broxton, Wade, Hu, and Elbert are homegrown and producing..

just stop

Jake you are throwing fuel on the fire, nothing you said makes sense.. Calling us morons while bringing nothing to the table.

"The Giants minor league system is also way more full. Burgmarger, Alderson, Villanova, and Posey. Who do the Dodgers have? Ya they have some younger players in the MLB now, Kemp, Billingsley Kershaw, Loney, and Martin. After that then who? No one thats who."

Okay, the whole point of a farm system.. too develop young talent, and then promote that talent to the major league level.. and almost half the team is home grown. I name 13 players, and you name 4 and then say we have nothing.. alright.

Alderson, Baumgaudner, Posey have not even played above Class A..

"Dont tell me that the Dodgers dont have any bad contracts... and i know the Giants do too but they only a couple. The Dodgers have many many bad contracts.. Pierre 11 mil, schmidt 17 mil, Jones 18 mil, this is like a joke. 36 million commited to 3 players, none of which are going to start or do anything
The Giants have zito, 18 mil, roberts 6 mil, and Rowand 12 mil. Rowand is bad but not Jones bad, Roberts sucks.. and at least zito is somewhat productive as a number 5 starter."

Once again, CLASSIC..

Zito 126 million dollars
I love it when 5 starters make 18 million for the next 5 years..
Rowand 60 million dollars
Roberts 18 million dollars

209 million for 4 players..

Jones 38 million
Pierre 44 million
Schmidt 47 million

Okay 129 million dollars
and after 09?
Pierre's contract plus the remainder of Jones' so maybe about 15 million a year..
The one thing Coletti has done and worked(not for the sake of good baseball) is these contracts, what if he signs them for more than 2-3 years and they stink? Oh wait he signed them for 2-3 years and 2 of those contracts are done this year..

"All while the Giants are the favorites in the division right now"

Renteria, Johnson, and Affeldt might put you above .500

There is no way the Giants are better than Arizona and LA.

Very convenient that you left out the 2000-2003 seasons. LOL!

Giants
2000 – 53,541,000 DIV 97-65 (.599)
2001 – 63,280,167 DNQ 90-72 (.556)
2002 – 78,299,835 NL 95-66 (.590)
2003 – 82,852,167 DIV 100-61 (.621)

Dodgers
2000 – 90,700,000 DNQ 86-76 (.531)
2001 – 109,105,952 DNQ 86-76 (.531)
2002 – 94,850,953 DNQ 92-70 (.568)
2003 – 105,872,260 DNQ 85-77 (.525)