Wren Considering Trade For Pitcher

Scribblestone...my bad. Went back and read your comments again. I got you mixed up with someone else's comments. You're dead on about 2010. If some of these young guys progress enough this year and we spend the Braves spend the money they have wisely, they will be a very good team for years to come.

I would like to see us acquire Jonathan Sanchez from the Giants or Ryan Rowland-Smith or Brandon Morrow from the Mariners.)
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I would like to see that too, but Rowland-Smith and Morrow won't get traded.

I could see the M's dealing Ryan Rowland-Smith but not Morrow.

Just please, please, please, please, do not trade for Padilla or Millwood. Arroyo is a good pitcher, but I despise him. In southern Ohio, we have a hamburger company called JTM, and he does commercials for them, and he sings, and it's pretty much the most annoying thing EVER!

Wait,

It has to be Ian Snell. Has to be him.

Snell or maybe Maholm?

A.) No player in the game in untouchable.
B.) 2 very good prospects and a very good MLB player who is extremely versatile traded for a top OF prospect is not unrealistic. This is baseball, prospects are just that...prospects. I am so sick of everyone acting like a 15 year old girl who just got felt up for the first time when one of their precious "prospects" are mentioned in a trade.

Newsflash...Heyward is not playing in the MLB anytime soon. He is far far far away from proving he is capable of playing in the majors. The Braves have many holes to fill including outfield and SP.

Posted by: yanks09 | January 12, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Haha did you do any research before you put this crap out here? You're bashing on Braves fans for banking on Heyward but its clear you didn't think at all when posting. Of course no player is untouchable, what that label means is you will have to overpay to get that guy by so much it won't be worth it. Kennedy is not a very good prospect, sure one day he could pan out but he got rocked in the majors last year destroying his value. Brackman does have value but he's much less of a cant miss than Heyward. Swisher's last season suggests he is not a very good player. I do think it was a bit of a fluke but he's a good not very good player. Thats essentially a good LF, #4 or #5 starter of which we have plenty, and good pitching prospect for arguably the top hitting prospect in all of baseball. It's not just Braves fans that value Heyward, just look at scouting reports and prospect rankings. Now to get back to my point that you did no research. Heyward will see lots of time at AA this year barring injury. AA is generally the step before the Majors at least for the Braves, not many top prospects head to AAA. That might change now that the AAA team is very close to Atlanta. Still Heyward should be in the major by late 2010-start of 2011, hardly a long time from now. We need to fill the ace/#1 hole in our rotation, we've got a whole assortment of ian kennedy types

Wren is killing me.

I don't think he completely understands when and why it's better to trade for a player than sign a free agent.

Giving up prospects for a player of Javy Vasquez' caliber is only a good idea when he is being paid under market value, it doesn't make sense when free agents of similar quality are available for the same money.

Please don't trade for Padilla or Millwood just to save a couple million a year. Those guys are bums compared to Lowe.

If, on the other hand, Wren has some kind of deal that would send one of our bigger contracts (I'm lookin' at you Chip...) elsewhere in exchange for a young cheap stud pitcher, go for it!

(I would like to see us acquire Jonathan Sanchez from the Giants or Ryan Rowland-Smith or Brandon Morrow from the Mariners.)

Posted by: Roberty | January 12, 2009 at 03:09 PM

At the time with Sabathia getting 23 million a year and AJ Burnett getting 16 million, 11.5 for Vasquez looked like a bargain. By no means is it a bad contract but I don't think he predicted the market to crash like it has

Not what I meant. Noone thought we were going to get Tex. But Cash negotiated all winter with him. Cash does not go out and say things like this on the radio or in interviews. He says well I reeally can't talk about that.

YankFan408...you're the reason everyone hates Yankee fans. Your team just spent $420 million and you're already talking about throwing blank checks at King Felix. Give me a break.

Posted by: njbraves | January 12, 2009 at 03:50 PM

Okay, I though I have been very fair throughout this whole thread and have not said outlandish ideas. I am just saying he is going to be traded soon and he is the perfect free agent. 25 years old with ace potential and all. I'm so sure I'm being ridiculous. That is going to be a great bidding war between many teams as it should be. I don't say outlanish things and make assinine trade proposals. I'm a very fair Yankee fan. If my name was Sox666 and made that statement but said my Red Sox or any other team. You would not have said any of this. We have lowered payroll and these 3 guys were the types of guys to shell out money on.

Mark just stop. Please just stop. Johan went to the NL which is why he stats improved. Besides getting rocked the first 4 games of the season CC was dominant. Than he went to the NL and went 11-2 with a 1.65 era while carrying the Brewers on his back to steal the wild card from Johan and the Mets.
Not to mention CC pitched 10 complete games last year....that is more complete games than Johan has in his ENTIRE career.

And Joba was a 2 inning setup man and was absolutely unfreaking touchable as it. When they first made him a starter last year he struggled moving to the role, because it was a dumb move on the Yankees half to do that to him. But after he adjusted to it he was dominating. Go look up his game log and you will see it.

Read my comments before you say anything. I did not criticize Johan and say he is now a bad pitcher, but at this point in time, CC is clearly the better pitcher.

If you want to bash the Yankees go on an ESPN board and play there with all the other retards. This board is not about the Yankees. The only reason it switched to the Yankees is because I suggested the Braves move some of their players for some of the Yankees. Which I understand why Braves fans got upset about. So if you would like to talk about the Braves and possible trading suitors (doesn't even have to be realistic if you don't want it to) go ahead. But I am not here to get in a fight about why you hate the Yankees. So either say something worthwhile or STFU.

I would love to see a Arroyo-Escobar tradeof some sort

No way that Escobar gets moved for Arroyo unless there's another big time guy going to atlanta. There is no way that Atlanta decides to move Escobar now, if they were going to do it it would have happened when Furcal was still on the market

Signed rather affordably too.
4 years/$36.5M (2007-10)
makes 11 M in 09, 12.5M in '10 and has a 12.75M option for '11

in regards to Frank Wren just doing this to scare Lowe and to make it look like he is doing something. there was a blog by Dave O Brien awhile ago that stated that he talked to Wren and there was speculation that alot of stuff would have happened last week and im guessing it got carried over this week with everything going on with lowe.

so with that said he has been doing things for awhile and i kinda respect that he is a GM that doesnt put everything out there. with the Furcal thing no one knew of it until they went online and found out the day it was posted and after that it kinda blew up.

in regards to what kind of pitcher he is trading for i really hope it is the twins. they have slowey, baker, and liriano so that is quite a pool of talent to pick up from.

i think he might be offering someone who is capable of playing 3rd base and a higher pitching prospect. something like:

Prado/Infante
Locke
(add filler prospect here)

i really do hope its the twins cause i have been saying that for awhile i wish he would go after their pitching.